Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

[dieterbrock]

Oh boy.... way to get off the original discussion. Trade, release whatever... The discussion was few if amy teams will trade that #1 pick next year if Manning lives up to expectations next yr. Even a team with quality starter whose name is not Mahomes or Allen and maybe very few others.

How am I getting way off the discussion when you keep moving the goal posts?
The Rams have 2 1st round picks next year and only in fantasy land will they be able to use them to trade for a veteran franchise QB. Unless there is a belief in a Dak Prescott, Tua or Carr type. I say no thanks there.
There isnt a world where a Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert etc are traded
So sure, its fun to speculate in the off season, but it has to be somewhat realistic

 

[So Ram]

"Is this going to happen that Ram Fans will talk about this all season??"
Is that a bad thing? LOL

SURE !

My hope is we’re talking about Matthew Staffords Greatness !

You can stay on the other side of the street with that crowd.I’m actually excited about The Rams season in front of them.

Koolaide time for me,I even like a few of the UDRFA’s

 

[So Ram]

Agree on Big Ben, but Rivers was better in the regular season, but not in post season. He lost to the Patriots more than Cornwallis.

I don’t agree as simple as that.This years group wasn’t 1st rd worthy.

SO -yes searching for a QB later in the Draft might have made the most sense.

Last seasons draft your lucky to get a good QB after the 15th pick with 5 going in the first rd.

 

[RamsRock]

I dont know why he would, because that happened 1 time in history? On the other hand, if there is a Philip Rivers or Ben Roethlisberger in the draft who were arguably better than Eli, than why not take one of them? Or just get our next franchise QB out of a Hi-Vee supermarket?

"Or just get our next franchise QB out of a Hi-Vee supermarket?"
You can do that?
Please tell me where the nearest Hi-Vee Supermarket is.

 

[RamsRock]

SURE !

My hope is we’re talking about Matthew Staffords Greatness !

You can stay on the other side of the street with that crowd.I’m actually excited about The Rams season in front of them.

Koolaide time for me,I even like a few of the UDRFA’s

 

[ottoman89]

The expectations and rumors are Manning plans to stay for 2 more years.

I wouldn't expect him to be an option.

 

[Merlin]

I just hate saying never in these hypotheticals. If for example everything were to go bad for Cincinnati this year and they finish with the first pick in the 2026 draft, and if Burrow were to miss significant time, I would not rule out the Bungles trading him out for a younger model, assuming they like a QB enough in the draft. Say perhaps Arch has an epic season and then declares.

The stars could line up on that. I could see it, even though I don't think it's likely.

 

[Neil039]

The expectations and rumors are Manning plans to stay for 2 more years.

I wouldn't expect him to be an option.

Draft position and his 2025 year may change all that. If he's a shoe in for #1, there is no way he stays in school (99.9% sure he wouldn't). If he has an average year and isn't in the topic for top pick you're right, he will stay in school to improve his draft stock.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Like others on here, I love LaNorris Sellers. If Arch isn't available, I'd take Sellers in a heartbeat.

Sellers' highlights have that WOW factor. Hope he develops into a more accurate and consistent passer. But his athleticism is insane.

Pretty intriguing to think of a McVay offense with a truly mobile QB.

 

[PhillyRam]

How am I getting way off the discussion when you keep moving the goal posts?
The Rams have 2 1st round picks next year and only in fantasy land will they be able to use them to trade for a veteran franchise QB. Unless there is a belief in a Dak Prescott, Tua or Carr type. I say no thanks there.
There isnt a world where a Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert etc are traded
So sure, its fun to speculate in the off season, but it has to be somewhat realistic

I never brought up that they would trade for a vet QB. It was about the likleyhood that they could trade up to #1 for Manning because most any team picking #1 would draft Manning. Even a team like the Bengals with a vet QB. Read the original post.

 

[DzRams]

Absolutely not
They can go 0-17 next season and Burrow goes nowhere.

Unless unless...Burrow has a major neck injury where the Bengals aren't sure he'll ever play again, and certainly won't be the same, and then yeah they'll consider moving him.

 

[PhillyRam]

Unless unless...Burrow has a major neck injury where the Bengals aren't sure he'll ever play again, and certainly won't be the same, and then yeah they'll consider moving him.

I think you guys under estimate the lure of rookie phenom QB on cheap 5 year deal vs a then 29 yr old QB (next spring) that for whatever reason, just went through a 3 win season.

 

[DzRams]

I think you guys under estimate the lure of rookie phenom QB on cheap 5 year deal vs a then 29 yr old QB (next spring) that for whatever reason, just went through a 3 win season.

You keep saying 29 like that's old. That's still in the window for peak physical ability.

I think you're underestimating the sure thing. Do you have an example of a top 5 QB being traded in their prime?

Not a 35 year old
Not someone coming off a debilitating, never to be the same again injury.

Prime
Top 5 QB

Anyone? I'll wait...

 

[PhillyRam]

You keep saying 29 like that's old. That's still in the window for peak physical ability.

I think you're underestimating the sure thing. Do you have an example of a top 5 QB being traded in their prime?

Not a 35 year old
Not someone coming off a debilitating, never to be the same again injury.

Prime
Top 5 QB

Anyone? I'll wait...

It would be rare from the standpoint of a top 5 QB being on a team picking #1 in the draft and having a possible generational QB being available to draft. And in the scenario I mentioned for Cincy to have a 3 win type season, probably means Burrow got hurt again.

Anyway, forget that, my original point was few teams will pass on Manning if he is what people are projecting him to be. So let's not think he is coming here unless Atl or God forbid something horrible happens here, and we end up with the top pick.

 

[DzRams]

It would be rare from the standpoint of a top 5 QB being on a team picking #1 in the draft and having a possible generational QB being available to draft. And in the scenario I mentioned for Cincy to have a 3 win type season, probably means Burrow got hurt again.

Anyway, forget that, my original point was few teams will pass on Manning if he is what people are projecting him to be. So let's not think he is coming here unless Atl or God forbid something horrible happens here, and we end up with the top pick.

Even an expanded scenario. Are there any examples of a top 5 QB being traded in their prime...? For any reason?

I get your original point. I don't think it's as few as you're saying. I see 8-10 teams that could potentially be open to trading that #1 pick.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Unless he takes a big leap in processing speed and seeing the entire field this year, I don’t want them to pick Drew Allar.

He’s got all of the physical tools but I don’t think he has it upstairs.

 

[Karate61]

You are taking it out of the context of the scenario I painted. People would have laughed back in 2010 if you said the Colts were going to cut Manning a year later.

I am not saying Burrow will be traded. I said there were only a few teams that would trade the #1 pick next year instead of drafting Manning. I then pointed out that even the Bengals, if they went through a trainwreck season, could decide to move an expensive injury plagued Burrow in favor of a generational cost controlled rookie phenom QB.

I have heard whispers online the last month or so about the Bengals trading Burrow. It's totally plausible. Maybe only 10%-30% plausible, but it is!

 

[Karate61]

Are there any examples of a top 5 QB being traded in their prime...? For any reason?

Steve Young (Buccaneers to 49ers). You can throw Goff/Stafford trade in, if you think Stafford was top 5.
Fran Tarkenton (Giants to Vikings). There's a few for what they're worth.

 

[ScotsRam]

Any massive trade up is a big risk. I saw a stat this year showing that QBs selected with picks 1-5 only have a 68% hit ratio. That's two out of three. Yeah they're cost controlled but that's a sizeable fail rate which is why a Burrow wouldn't be traded.

What is the hit rate for QBs selected after pick 5?

Hint: WAAAAAY lower than 68%.