Vent thread

[PhillyRam]

Imagining how you would have reacted one year ago today if Goff threw the go ahead TD and the defense allowed a team to go 88 yards in less than two minutes with no timeouts.....and then someone saying the loss was on Goff.

At least fake it....try to be consistent. Otherwise instead of writing the post above, just type "I don't like Matt Stafford".

I don't blame the loss on Stafford, he made his share of mistakes and near disaster's, but it was a team loss all the way around. OL, DL, secondary busts, etc. Hekker & Kupp might be the only guys who played well.

However after watching a full season of Stafford I will say I am disappointed. I didn't expect to be holding my breath, fearing mistakes, as I have this yr with a 12 yr talented vet.

He is a more talented version of Carson Wentz. Can make unreal throws, but also gets into hero mode too often. I mean that horizonal pass across the field could have been an all time embarrassing INT. I am just not sure he can carry a team like Rodgers or Mahomes can as he just doesn't manage games well. Poor decisions in terms of game situation are too frequent and refusal to give up on a play results in mistakes and potential injury to himself.

 

[FrantikRam]

This is borderline psychotic.

It feels like this was the season finale to a show where it was all building to this moment

 

[Kupped]

That we should all agree on. Mcvay not making the oline a priority is arguably reason #1 why we can't beat the niners

I'm a sucker because I thought this line had shown it was good enough.

Nope.

 

[Spider2YB]

Isn’t that why we brought Stafford over in the first place? To be ‘the guy’ you have all the confidence in the world in to get you those 7 yards to seal the game? At least that’s what I remember him being described by McVay as. Instead he gets cute and puts the game in the hands of the defense who were getting manhandled in their own right that second half.

Yeah I honestly think it had to do with McVay having supreme confidence in his D vs Jimmy G in that scenario. And Stafford was still limping from getting rolled up on on the long throw to Kupp.

 

[TXRams86]

Yup.

And.. again... the other team can't score if they don't have the ball.
Your exhausted defense had just come up with a big series to get you the ball back in great field position.

Agree with you 100%. For as much as I despise the guy, I’m always in awe of the killer instinct John Harbaugh has. I wish McVay had the balls sometimes to go for the jugular, especially with a division rival you’ve been embarrassed by the past 3 years. What did he have to lose? The cardinals were beyond coming back and winning at that point. He should have played those last series aggressive as fuck on both sides of the ball. The worst possible outcome is what we ended up with anyway.

 

[OnceARam]

That loss was 100% on the coaching staff.

They were coaching not to lose, rather than to win.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Why not run a bootleg on that third down play near the end and tell Stafford only to throw it if it's a sure thing? If nobody is open, then just have Stafford slide down. At least you have a 50/50 chance of picking up the first down. Running the play they did gave them no chance.

Better yet, run it on first down when the defense thinks heavy run. It infuriates me that McVay loves to get too cute with this play calling until we need some creativity. Then he just goes into the football coaching for dummies handbook

 

[nighttrain]

That loss was 100% on the coaching staff.

 

[PhillyRam]

Yeah I honestly think it had to do with McVay having supreme confidence in his D vs Jimmy G in that scenario. And Stafford was still limping from getting rolled up on on the long throw to Kupp.

Another mistake he made was after the big play he should have called a TO. The D was gassed and was not getting back and then Floyd got the offsides call. A time out gives them a quick break and avoids the penalty.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Apparently not.

Stafford threw as many touchdowns in his first season as a ram aa goff the last 2 years combined. I really don't understand how this Jared narrative keeps coming up.

 

[TXRams86]

I really am starting to believe that he goes empty set on short yardage because of his bravado more than anything. He wants you to know what is coming and still beat you with it. That is the only logical conclusion I can come to after seeing him do the empty backfield on short yardage so often this season. It's not even like he has a quick slant dialed up or anything...he has a pure drop back call sent in that just boggles the mind. He had the same mindset against NE in the SB. He couldn't bother to come up with some wrinkles the way the Eagles did to mess up NE and win. Nope. He was going to beat you with the offense that you saw for 18 games previously. He even admitted after the fact that he didn't change anything because BB is so smart he would have adjusted to it by 1/2 time. That is not what you want to hear when the Eagles literally gave them a blueprint on how to beat NE.

There’s definitely some ego to it. We’ve seen games, Super Bowl a great example, where he continues to fit a square peg in a round hole with his play calling. I truly believe he thinks his offense is good enough that it’s going to beat ANY defense, no adjustments or game plan tailored to attack the opposing defense’s weaknesses needed. You hear it in his interviews, “we just needed THIS to go our way” or “we got a lot of good looks BUT”. No, sometimes the defense has your offense’s number because they scout the shit out of it and game plan for it.

 

[ramsince62]

Idk. Goff got us to a Super Bowl. I’m hoping this isn’t a Warner situation (cut bait too early)

Not really, I'd give the nod to Gurley and a miracle no call in New Orleans.

 

[Spider2YB]

Why not run a bootleg on that third down play near the end and tell Stafford only to throw it if it's a sure thing? If nobody is open, then just have Stafford slide down. At least you have a 50/50 chance of picking up the first down. Running the play they did gave them no chance.

Yeah I think Stafford was still limping a decent bit, which may have been why McVay didn’t call a boot.

An incomplete pass there actually woulda helped us in the long run too. Woulda had a minute left instead of 26 seconds on the last possession in regulation.

 

[FarNorth]

The offense put the defense in position to win the game and they blew it. You seem to be ignoring that part so you can take some digs at Stafford.

Sorry but Stafford also blew it.

Stafford played well in the first half and on the scoring drive in the second. But you just can't throw an unnecessary, easily avoidable interception when it means losing the game.

 

[Ellard80]

Like you said.
He sat on the ball.

The best way to stop the other team from scoring is to not give them back the ball. Period. Not even one first down.

Let's not forget that the defense had absolutely just done it's job and shut down the 9ers offense the series before. How many shots you want to give them?

unless you get sack fumbled and give them teh ball right there.

 

[Giles]

Can he make any RB look good or does he keep working to find good RBs. They drafted two this year and had Mostert.

I'd say you're mistaking making RB a priority every year with being able to put anyone in and succeed.

And Deebo and Kittle are Superstars. They distort defenses.

I mean considering the Shanahans have a very long history with runningbacks I'll say they make anybody look at least decent. Plus we have kupp and OBj now. But anyway we'll just agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Spider2YB]

Not really, I'd give the nod to Gurley and a miracle no call in New Orleans.

Yeah Jared Goff with the 2021 Rams has 8-9 written all over it. 2017, 2018 Gurley was a top 3 offensive player in the league.

Stafford with prime Gurley, Kupp, Woods, Higbee, and Cooks?? Yeah that’s Super Bowl worthy.

 

[wolfdogg]

Frankly it's hard to say the rams are the best team in the nfc west when they get bitch slapped in the bay and then lose after a 17 point 0 advantage with a minute left in the first half at home. It seemed like the defense lost its edge in giving up the cheap 3 to end the half and then played soft in the 2nd half opening drive. A drive that reminded me of the 40 play domination series in the Monday night debacle.

I feel we need to play and defeat the niners in the playoffs to really feel we deserve the lombardi.

 

[Spider2YB]

Sorry but Stafford also blew it.

Stafford played well in the first half and on the scoring drive in the second. But you just can't throw an unnecessary, easily avoidable interception when it means losing the game.

Stafford led the team on the go ahead TD drive in the 4th. Next time the Rams had the ball McVay called 3 running plays.

Stafford did not blow the game. He put the defense in prime position to shut the door, despite horrific offensive line play all day long I might add.

 

[Neil039]

It's a vent thread, so my vent summation is as follows
McVay's play calling sucked, got too conservative
Stafford was a disaster in the 2nd half and his 8 TO in the last 3 games is a huge concern.
The fan support was a complete embarrassment, sounded like a 9er home game
At the end of the day, the defense with all of its star power, couldnt close out the game

And that’s why I like McVay but don’t love him.