Vent thread

[Kupped]

If our defense gets a stop everyone on planet earth assumed they were gonna get…this would’ve been a celebration thread.

The last time McVay put the ball in Stafford’s hands, he threw two absolute dimes and gave the Rams a 7 point lead.

The next time the offense touched it, McVay sat on the ball and gave this defense as good a situation to end the game as any.

Like you said.
He sat on the ball.

The best way to stop the other team from scoring is to not give them back the ball. Period. Not even one first down.

Let's not forget that the defense had absolutely just done it's job and shut down the 9ers offense the series before. How many shots you want to give them?

 

[FarNorth]

Depends on the Goff. 2020 Goff? Yes. But we went all in on the Super Bowl with Stafford. He needs to offer more than he has since the midway mark of the year.

I'm not disputing that McVay wants more deep shots. Hell, the final INT was the right decision. It was just a shitty throw.

They were still communicating and not set at the snap. Unsurprisingly, it resulted in a blown coverage. That speaks to a coaching issue.

Not sure what play you are referring to but apparently Rams weren't fully ready when Fuller went out and Ramsay had to call the sets. Maybe that wasn't the real issue but it sounded from the Rams radio broadcast like there was some disarray in the secondary at the worst possible time.

 

[Spider2YB]

We had the ball last

And threw it away on a 50/50 poorly thrown pass

Had that been last years QB lol, you damn well know what your narrative would be

Hey, it’s over

12-5 NFC West Champs

Beat the deadbirds the our personal bitches the Bucs

Nope, we’d be at GB. Unless Philly wins.

 

[Kupped]

Yea I mean nobody seems to explicitly want to say it.

But this game came down to ONE play. Ramsey jumping a flat route while their most dangerous offensive player runs right past him. That one mistake was the single biggest of the game.

Yup.

When one of your two best players makes a mistake like that at a critical time... yikes.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I'm honestly moving on as much as I hate this loss. Let's go on a 4 game winning streak dammit.

 

[TXRams86]

Actually IMO that one was on Stafford.

The SECOND he saw that Bosa was over Havenstein, he needed to call timeout or audible. McVay doesn't know where Bosa is going to line up when calling the play.

My biggest gripe is showing your hand in that situation. I hated the play call once I saw Sony clear out because it was an obvious pass play on a down you needed one yard. He eliminated the threat of a run or even a play action pass by going empty. Furthermore, going empty in that situation has worked out disastrously for Stafford in recent history; he drew up a potential Stafford pick 6 with that play call. I hate to use the analogy but a Madden player would immediately know what you’re trying to do if you called that in a game. McVay needs to be a smarter play caller sometimes. He’s making these bone headed calls more and more frequently.

 

[SAK11]

I was not okay with the three gutless runs on that drive. You need a first down to win it. That should have been the mindset. We knew they had all their time outs and they knew we were running the ball. So if you weren't going to draw up some plays that worked you weren't going to do anything but take 5 or 10 seconds off the clock anyway.

We don't have a wide receiver screen or a quick slant or a QB roll out that can just pick up four or five yards on first down? The whole world knew we were just going to run the ball and we did it anyway. Despite the fact that A, we had no success running the ball anyway and B, we weren't going to be able to chew much clock playing that way.


You play with fire too many times and you're going to get burned. It's the same as McVeigh always punting on 4th and 1 or kicking the field goal on 4th and 1. You're leaving drives way too empty. And three spineless runs up the gut is the epitome of an empty drive.

Looking at what happened, you're right, they might as well have attempted a pass to end the game. I think since it's almost always worked in his favour, McVay trusted the defense to finish the game off as they have time and time again during his time as head coach. Maybe this will be a turning point to having him be more aggressive in those situations. With yards so easy to come by in this era of football, you might as well play aggressive on offense to end the game when you can. But still, 40 yards so easily to Deebo down the field, that was atrocious.

 

[FrantikRam]

We had the ball last

And threw it away on a 50/50 poorly thrown pass

Had that been last years QB lol, you damn well know what your narrative would be

Hey, it’s over

12-5 NFC West Champs

Beat the deadbirds the our personal bitches the Bucs

Not at all.

When a defense led by Donald and Ramsey gives up an 88 yard drive in that situation, that's never on the QB. No matter what happens afterward

 

[Kupped]

If you want to laser in on what cost the Rams this game? I mean the factor that played the biggest role in losing the game?

It's the Oline. Period, end of story.

Couldn't muster any run game and couldn't protect Stafford.

 

[FarNorth]

Even with a not so great throw Beckham has to make a play there to at least knock the ball down.

On the other Int, same thing WRs have own the ball and make plays you can’t wait for the ball to come to you.

Stafford and the offense didn’t lose this game.

Morris and that pussified weak defensive scheme did.

Beckham ran too far by the receiver to turn around and play defense.

 

[Giles]

Imagining how you would have reacted one year ago today if Goff threw the go ahead TD and the defense allowed a team to go 88 yards in less than two minutes with no timeouts.....and then someone saying the loss was on Goff.

At least fake it....try to be consistent. Otherwise instead of writing the post above, just type "I don't like Matt Stafford".

Dude miss with that bs especially coming from you who even said the reason we to lost the niners was shipped out of town. Yea that didn't age well..at all. If this game played exactly how it did I would same exact thing. The only thing that would change is you would be obliterating Goff for the loss because in your mind it was his fault.

 

[RamFanWA]

It just doesn't feel like, we won the NFC West....
but -- we apparently did - and on the road, at that.....

 

[Giles]

Why continue to be a Rams fan at this point? Serious question.

Because I love this team. Sorry that I'm not sorry if that offends ppl.

 

[FrantikRam]

My biggest gripe is showing your hand in that situation. I hated the play call once I saw Sony clear out because it was an obvious pass play on a down you needed one yard. He eliminated the threat of a run or even a play action pass by going empty. Furthermore, going empty in that situation has worked out disastrously for Stafford in recent history; he drew up a potential Stafford pick 6 with that play call. I hate to use the analogy but a Madden player would immediately know what you’re trying to do if you called that in a game. McVay needs to be a smarter play caller sometimes. He’s making these bone headed calls more and more frequently.

I see what you're saying, but you're operating under the assumption that Stafford has to run the play that McVay called.

As for going empty.....we weren't going to run for a first down there. We were averaging less than 1 ypc. So I was fine with going empty....although I think Stafford should have brought Michel in to chip Bosa.

 

[Kupped]

I disagree. Stafford has the better supporting cast especially when healthy and let's be real about the running backs. Shanahan can make any runningback look all world. Now if you wanna talk about who has better coaching...unfortunately that's a different story.

Can he make any RB look good or does he keep working to find good RBs. They drafted two this year and had Mostert.

I'd say you're mistaking making RB a priority every year with being able to put anyone in and succeed.

And Deebo and Kittle are Superstars. They distort defenses.

 

[Tano]

All coaches make play calling mistakes during a game. All of them.

I am not blaming McVay for this game.

Yeah McVay messed up really badly on the 3rd and 1 but the other one was just being too conservative in a lot of peoples eyes.

I don't have a problem with McVay's play calling for the most part just that he seems to abandon the run from time to time.

And with that pass rush, he should have thrown some screens. I was wondering during the game if that would have worked.

But overall I do not have much issue with McVay's play calls.

Morris on the other hand, his end of half and end of game play calls just kill me

 

[Gandalf]

If our defense gets a stop everyone on planet earth assumed they were gonna get…this would’ve been a celebration thread.

The last time McVay put the ball in Stafford’s hands, he threw two absolute dimes and gave the Rams a 7 point lead.

The next time the offense touched it, McVay sat on the ball and gave this defense as good a situation to end the game as any.

Don't you think he should have put the ball in Stafford's hand one more time and see if he had another dime left in him and ended the game. That would have been the best situation for the D.
Although you are correct, the D was put in a great position and we should have won.

 

[PhillyRam]

Like you said.
He sat on the ball.

The best way to stop the other team from scoring is to not give them back the ball. Period. Not even one first down.

Let's not forget that the defense had absolutely just done it's job and shut down the 9ers offense the series before. How many shots you want to give them?

Reminds me of Martz in Tampa on MNF in 2000. Ran it 3 times, gave it back and we lose on a late drive and lose the division.

 

[ramsince62]

The call was fine. OBJ vs a rookie… Staff just made a bad throw IMO

Yeah, along with the other 7 pic's over the past 4 games. This guy is a turn over machine plus (he) appears to go blind every now and then.

 

[Tano]

My biggest gripe is showing your hand in that situation. I hated the play call once I saw Sony clear out because it was an obvious pass play on a down you needed one yard. He eliminated the threat of a run or even a play action pass by going empty. Furthermore, going empty in that situation has worked out disastrously for Stafford in recent history; he drew up a potential Stafford pick 6 with that play call. I hate to use the analogy but a Madden player would immediately know what you’re trying to do if you called that in a game. McVay needs to be a smarter play caller sometimes. He’s making these bone headed calls more and more frequently.

As someone said, not only does McVay need a hold back guy, he needs a head slap guy to remind McVay of bad play calls that he does too frequently.