Actually IMO that one was on Stafford.
The SECOND he saw that Bosa was over Havenstein, he needed to call timeout or audible. McVay doesn't know where Bosa is going to line up when calling the play.
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Actually IMO that one was on Stafford.
The SECOND he saw that Bosa was over Havenstein, he needed to call timeout or audible. McVay doesn't know where Bosa is going to line up when calling the play.
There were so many different ways to play that series to possibly get the first down and seal the game. Like I just said to another poster, sometimes McVay is a shit play caller. I think he needs to let it go already, get KOC to call plays. Why are we hanging onto him if he’s just gonna be sitting on the sidelines learning how to piss a game seating drive away?
12intheBox
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Can we at least get rid of whose house now? Can we get that much out of this?
I don’t know, he threw 65 yards across his body in the air vs Arizona. He’s just not getting enough on it for some reason.
El Chapo Jr
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I was actually calling McVay a fucking pussy, but that's me.
Not to mention that McVay has used this tactic dozens of times and this is the first time in the McVay era that our defense gave up a TD in this type of scenario. Pretty sure McVay was undefeated when leading by a TD at any point in the fourth quarter.
And again, when you have AD and Ramsey and your OL is getting manhandled, he absolutely played that correctly.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
Seriously. Shit is becoming a jinx, especially when you get over ran in your own house.
As I was watching I was fine with running it 3 straight times. Our defense has come through in late game situations to win plenty of times in the McVay era. In recent weeks they were in similar situations against Baltimore and Arizona and came up with big time sacks to finish those games off.
In hindsight, I guess they might as well have tried to throw for a first down. End things right then and there.
The play that's sticking in my mind is that 40 yard pass to Deebo, though. Any short completion is a win for us. If they try to set something up deep, we have our great pass rush to get after Jimmy G. To allow a quick throw to go for huge yardage in that situation, to their best player, is unacceptable.
El Chapo Jr
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Mcvays decision to run it 3 times and punt was the right call. Our pass rush against Jimmy G, 88 yards and no timeouts.
We didn't play prevent. Prevent would have worked. We played...no one knows what coverage we are in. The defense failed.
Offensively we couldn't run or pass protect. But we got some big plays to take the lead late from Stafford, Kupp, etc. They did enough to win when we were getting mauled physically. So again.. playing conservative late was the right call.
Once the defense broke down.. and OT started.. the defense was awful again and allowed a 7 minute drive for the fg.
Rams had to go down the field for 7 with 2.5 minutes left. Stafford taking the shot to Beckham was the right decision. 1 on 1 with a rookie. Looks like he laid it up easy so Beckham could make play on it.. while Beckham tried to flat out beat him. I think it was more of a miscommunication than just a bad ball.
We didn't play prevent. Prevent would have worked. We played...no one knows what coverage we are in. The defense failed.
Offensively we couldn't run or pass protect. But we got some big plays to take the lead late from Stafford, Kupp, etc. They did enough to win when we were getting mauled physically. So again.. playing conservative late was the right call.
Once the defense broke down.. and OT started.. the defense was awful again and allowed a 7 minute drive for the fg.
Rams had to go down the field for 7 with 2.5 minutes left. Stafford taking the shot to Beckham was the right decision. 1 on 1 with a rookie. Looks like he laid it up easy so Beckham could make play on it.. while Beckham tried to flat out beat him. I think it was more of a miscommunication than just a bad ball.
That is not what I would call a "ridiculous" pick. OBJ was one on one with a rookie. He just under threw it and it was definitely a bad throw. But a good decision overall. I save "ridiculous" for plays that were bad decisions.
But that's beside the point - he threw what should have been the game winning TD. The defense lost the game by allowing the Niners to score.
He also through for 40TDs and almost 5,000yards in his first year. The last pick was just under thrown. OBJ could've tried to make a play on it right? Like wtf was that by him once he found the ball
Today he drove down and threw what should've been the game winning TD with 90 secs left after getting his ankle hurt a few plays before.
Stafford has had a number of bad turnovers this year, but today was on the defense 100%. 90 yards in 60 seconds with no timeouts when they need a fucking TD is laughably bad and cost Morris his job.
I was not okay with the three gutless runs on that drive. You need a first down to win it. That should have been the mindset. We knew they had all their time outs and they knew we were running the ball. So if you weren't going to draw up some plays that worked you weren't going to do anything but take 5 or 10 seconds off the clock anyway.
We don't have a wide receiver screen or a quick slant or a QB roll out that can just pick up four or five yards on first down? The whole world knew we were just going to run the ball and we did it anyway. Despite the fact that A, we had no success running the ball anyway and B, we weren't going to be able to chew much clock playing that way.
You play with fire too many times and you're going to get burned. It's the same as McVeigh always punting on 4th and 1 or kicking the field goal on 4th and 1. You're leaving drives way too empty. And three spineless runs up the gut is the epitome of an empty drive.
I don't know. Maybe if our defense appeared able to do that in the second half, I would agree.
But there's more to calling a game than down and distance.
If I'm McVay there, no way I feel good about giving them the ball back.. not even on their 10.
Tell Stafford to make his first read and if it's not there, throw it away and we punt.... but we NEEDED to convert and put them away.
It showed no confidence in his offense and he essentially wiped his hands of it and put winning the game in his mediocre DCs hands.
It's 3rd down, you've got the leagues best WR, OBJ and Higbee along with your franchise QB you bet the farm on and you need 7 yards to beat these motherfuckers.
McVay is supposed to be our strength. He's making the big bucks. He's got the credit cards and the checkbook... 7 yards.
I expect a lot more from him.
It's a vent thread, so my vent summation is as follows
McVay's play calling sucked, got too conservative
Stafford was a disaster in the 2nd half and his 8 TO in the last 3 games is a huge concern.
The fan support was a complete embarrassment, sounded like a 9er home game
At the end of the day, the defense with all of its star power, couldnt close out the game
McVay's play calling sucked, got too conservative
Stafford was a disaster in the 2nd half and his 8 TO in the last 3 games is a huge concern.
The fan support was a complete embarrassment, sounded like a 9er home game
At the end of the day, the defense with all of its star power, couldnt close out the game
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