Vent Thread - This is what happens when you act like you just won the Superbowl all week.

[Elmgrovegnome]

True but 194 total yards has to be the lowest or one of the lowest totals for a victorious team this year

Stafford was faked out by the defense changing looks combined with the inside pressure. It’s a new old template to defeat McVays offense, but not every team has the right combination of players to execute it. Most have dominant edge rushers not inside rushers and most don’t have theDB depth that the Titans have. That is a banged up secondary and they still played well.

I never expected a close game based on pre game articles. It was shocking.

 

[Ellard80]

Yea this hasn't been talked about enough and I'm interested to see what the all-22 looks like.. even though I never want to look at this game again. But in the first half their pressure was great yes, but also Stafford was holding the ball more than normal. My guess is their coverage on the back end was excellent as well. McVay just got completely out-schemed, no doubt about it. Combine that with the bad OL play and turnovers and we get our asses kicked. It really reminded me of the Super Bowl and brought back some shitty memories. We are more speed than power and I hate that we have a hard time competing with the most physical teams.

quite often when they showed video from behind the play I didn't see much open - its also of course still on stafford to not make game destroying decisions.

 

[Allen2McVay]

What drives me nuts the most today is how fucking lucky Arizona got. Every top NFC team lost and they win with a fucking back up.

Without their QB (Murray) and best player (Hopkins), they won easy. That's more impressive than lucky IMO.

 

[AvengerRam]

The Rams are a Championship contender this season.

Nothing that happened last night makes that statement any less true.

But, for some fans... that's just not enough. They want a team that is clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the league and wins virtually every game in convincing fashion.

Here's my question... when have the Rams had such a team?

In 1999, they lost to the Titans (in a game with many similarities to last night) and also lost to the Detroit Lions (I'm not mentioning the final loss to the Eagles, as it was a game in which the Rams sat a lot of starters). Then, in the playoffs, they won two games that went down to the last play.

In 2001, the Rams arguably had an even more dominant team, but they lost in the end.

The point is, even the best teams have down moments during the season. The '85 Bears got beat badly in a Monday Night game against the Dan Marino led Dolphins. The undefeated Patriots lost in the Super Bowl. The list goes on.

So the Rams looked bad last night and lost. Other contenders lost too (Buffalo, Dallas, Green Bay). The Rams are still one of 7 or 8 teams that most people would list as contenders in 2021.

We, as fans, hate losing. But its part of the game. Suck it up and get ready, because its going to be a bumpy ride.

 

[Loyal]

A mere blip on the path to victory. It just means I can't talk as m8ch shyte on YouTube as I normally do. ~ @Merlin

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yea this hasn't been talked about enough and I'm interested to see what the all-22 looks like.. even though I never want to look at this game again. But in the first half their pressure was great yes, but also Stafford was holding the ball more than normal. My guess is their coverage on the back end was excellent as well. McVay just got completely out-schemed, no doubt about it. Combine that with the bad OL play and turnovers and we get our asses kicked. It really reminded me of the Super Bowl and brought back some shitty memories. We are more speed than power and I hate that we have a hard time competing with the most physical teams.

Same ole scheme. Once again McVay struggled to recognize it. Clogging up the middle crossing routes and playing the edges to stop the outside zone runs. Same thing Green Bay did last year. Same thing the Fangio defense did. Only the Titans did not need to add a 6th man because Simmons and Autry were so dominant.

McVay stubbornly didn’t want to go back to the plodding offense with check downs and short passes but that is all Tennessee was giving him. The long routes and deep crossers were covered. Plus the Titans defense was changing looks,which combined with pressure threw Stafford off his game.

Most disappointing to me was the poor pass blocking against a four man front. I know Simmons is very good. He was a college stud but why did they get owned like that?

At least they didn’t lose to the Jets, or Dolphins this time but Damn that’s a very bad showing against a very familiar defense. If McVay is an offensive genius truly, then he should have had an answer to it a long time ago. I think he just has a good scheme and is stuck on it.

 

[Allen2McVay]

McVay's pattern of changing nothing is a reason why the Rams lose to opponents who have figured them out. Kyle and the 49ers know how to beat the Rams. I am assuming this will be the 5th straight loss to the 49ers.

That's the Spirit!

B-T-W, your services will NOT be needed for the pre-game motivational-talk.

 

[Loyal]

That's the Spirit!

B-T-W, your services will NOT be needed for the pre-game motivational-talk.

Doesn't he know this is punch a Niner fan in the face, week?

 

[Ellard80]

Same ole scheme. Once again McVay struggled to recognize it. Clogging up the middle crossing routes and playing the edges to stop the outside zone runs. Same thing Green Bay did last year. Same thing the Fangio defense did. Only the Titans did not need to add a 6th man because Simmons and Autry were so dominant.

McVay stubbornly didn’t want to go back to the plodding offense with check downs and short passes but that is all Tennessee was giving him. The long routes and deep crossers were covered. Plus the Titans defense was changing looks,which combined with pressure threw Stafford off his game.

Most disappointing to me was the poor pass blocking against a four man front. I know Simmons is very good. He was a college stud but why did they get owned like that?

At least they didn’t lose to the Jets, or Dolphins this time but Damn that’s a very bad showing against a very familiar defense. If McVay i offensive genius truly, then he should have had an answer to it a long time ago. I think he just has a good scheme and is stuck on it.

If it were just "scheme" than more teams could stop the Rams. McVay of course earns some blame, but when I go back and watch the film here and there- the game was lost by Stafford. The 1st int he threw at the 3 yard line he kept staring to the right, but he had his check down wide open and could have avoided the turnover and maybe even gained years.

The pick six was a poor throw and read. McVay did adjust and without the poor decisions early on by Stafford the rams probably still win the game.

 

[OnceARam]

This lose will make us better in the long run.

Stafford has to get Detroit out of his system. Those picks were terrible.

And although it took McVay a half to make adjustments, at least we know he’s capable of making adjustments.

 

[Jacobarch]

This lose will make us better in the long run.

Stafford has to get Detroit out of his system. Those picks were terrible.

And although it took McVay a half to make adjustments, at least we know he’s capable of making adjustments.

I don't know why it takes him a half to make simple adjustments

 

[Ellard80]

I don't know why it takes him a half to make simple adjustments

arguing adjustments could have been made sooner... perhaps.. though adjustments happen constantly.

"simple"

Cmon bro there is nothing simple about nfl schemes.

 

[Psycho_X]

quite often when they showed video from behind the play I didn't see much open - its also of course still on stafford to not make game destroying decisions.

Yeah, if he just takes a sack on the first int they punt and defense (which was playing lights out aside from the bullshit taunting and roughing passer calls) probably keeps them to a field goal at least. Second interception was just a stupid stare down throw which was odd since Stafford has been amazing all year looking off his receivers... think he was flustered from previous fuck up and let it get to him. They'll move past this and be fine.

 

[AZRams]

How do you score 28 points and win by double digits with 194 yards of total offense

A pick-six and a 2-yard "drive" after another INT.

 

[FarNorth]

Same ole scheme. Once again McVay struggled to recognize it. Clogging up the middle crossing routes and playing the edges to stop the outside zone runs. Same thing Green Bay did last year. Same thing the Fangio defense did. Only the Titans did not need to add a 6th man because Simmons and Autry were so dominant.

McVay stubbornly didn’t want to go back to the plodding offense with check downs and short passes but that is all Tennessee was giving him. The long routes and deep crossers were covered. Plus the Titans defense was changing looks,which combined with pressure threw Stafford off his game.

Most disappointing to me was the poor pass blocking against a four man front. I know Simmons is very good. He was a college stud but why did they get owned like that?

At least they didn’t lose to the Jets, or Dolphins this time but Damn that’s a very bad showing against a very familiar defense. If McVay is an offensive genius truly, then he should have had an answer to it a long time ago. I think he just has a good scheme and is stuck on it.

Game reminded me of the Miami game last year. Rams tried to force downfield passing plays and no back formations against a really tough defensive rush including stunts, delays, etc. which we couldn't handle.

No good outlets or screens most of the time. Not enough runs although they were working. Not enough patience.

Against Miami last year or Tennessee last night a different offensive strategy would have at least have kept us in the game and likely won. Tennessee was missing its best player. Our D basically shut them down except for the giveaways and bad refs.

Great coaches and QBs need to be able to win in different ways. Adjust to take away the strength of the D, don't play into its face by exposing the qb on repeated drop back passes if you can't block the rush.

McVay does vary his play calling at times but his strategy is still to throw the ball downfield at every opportunity and as much as possible until he has a big lead. Defensive coaches know it. Everyone in the stadium knows it.

McVay and Stafford haven't yet shown that they have a strategy when necessary to be patient, adjust, and take what the D is giving. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Drew Brees could and did. Rams need to be able to if we expect to win playoff games against tough physical defenses and in the face of poor refereeing.

 

[FarNorth]

If it were just "scheme" than more teams could stop the Rams. McVay of course earns some blame, but when I go back and watch the film here and there- the game was lost by Stafford. The 1st int he threw at the 3 yard line he kept staring to the right, but he had his check down wide open and could have avoided the turnover and maybe even gained years.

The pick six was a poor throw and read. McVay did adjust and without the poor decisions early on by Stafford the rams probably still win the game.

McVay didn't help Stafford with the calls and schemes but Stafford throws away balls carelessly at times. Saw very similar poor decisions in a Detroit game against Green Bay last year with very similar results. Imo Rams also need to reconsider their outlet schemes and read progressions to help Stafford to get the ball out of his hands quickly when he has to.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

Stafford was faked out by the defense changing looks combined with the inside pressure. It’s a new old template to defeat McVays offense, but not every team has the right combination of players to execute it. Most have dominant edge rushers not inside rushers and most don’t have theDB depth that the Titans have. That is a banged up secondary and they still played well.

I never expected a close game based on pre game articles. It was shocking.

Yep but if McVay would have moved the pocket late first quarter or early second quarter instead of waiting until after halftime I like our chances.I know the Titans would have opened up their offense a lot more if it was a close game but our defense looked like they came to play.

 

[Jacobarch]

arguing adjustments could have been made sooner... perhaps.. though adjustments happen constantly.

"simple"

Cmon bro there is nothing simple about nfl schemes.

Even Rex Ryan of all coaches called it out perfectly this morning on the Key show.

He said, the rams made zero line adjustments in the first half to slide their protection over to the middle of the line. He couldn't believe it. He was in no way dogging the rams either, it's a simple adjustment that can be made on the fly, which the rams did not. simple

 

[RamWoodie]

Its okay to still attack down field - i dont agree with all thats said above, but when we got backed up in the beginning and things were off we should have been more conservative.

Particularly when Henderson was making good runs. That was working, so you run Hendon and Michel...mix in some short play action.

You can't be explosive all the time...and that is where McVay reminds me of Martz.

 

[MarkyMark]

We usually have a game or two like this every season under McVay. Titans called a great defense, Stafford spotted them 14 points and these refs can suck a 12 gauge.

I thoght the Higbee touchdown should have counted, Roughing the passer when AD99 BARELY pushed him after the pass was thrown was complete bullshit, And there was a few bad bad calls.... Even Al Michaels said it was a badly called game!! IMO if that AD roughing bullshit wasn't called, we would have won the game. On to the Whiners!! GO RAMS!!