Vent Thread - Rams at Bucs

[thirteen28]

The defense is good enough to win games.

Ok, I'm going to go against my last post and respond one last time.

It was good enough - for 59 minutes. But we needed it to be good enough for 60 minutes, and with a few schematic changes it could have been.

 

[payote75]

I agree they shouldn't have been, but they were. Gotta play better defense schematically at that point. Just pissed they couldn't save us from our weak ass offensive performance. I definitely blame our offense way more than the defense, but I just can't give that shitty scheme at the end a pass either.

But dude I'd agree with you if maybe the score 24- 20 and we had some drives in there givi.g the defense a breather but we literally had 342 3 and outs and they still did there job you need to call one play. You know what you almost got cooper killed last week for no reason just fuck call a bootleg or a QB draw let Stafford run surprise someone but it was just weak and I sympathize with him over his loss but then give the play calling to someone who didn't have a death I'm the family. Honestly it's a diservice to himself and the team and now the defense gets mocked.

That may cause more divisiveness as if they feel they shouldn't of been out there they are obviously calling out the offense.

 

[Kupped]

While I certainly get his feelings, the reality is they were out there. He wouldn't be as pissed if we won, but once again, I'm blaming our scheme at the end of allowing the Bucs to move the ball so damn effortlessly down the field on that final drive as to why we got scored on. Whether we like it or not, that was our final chance to win they game and we blew it with that weak ass scheme. It worked wonders for the majority of the game and yes the offense deserves way more blame, but the reality once again is that the defense had to play hero and wasn't helped by playing so off the ball and allowing players to get outta bounds. Ramsey himself played shitty coverage on Scotty Miller at the end.

Lol.

Well.. the offensive players said as much as well.

It worked wonders and would've won the game with anything but the worst of offenses. They couldn't get a fucking first down. Not only could they have killed the clock.. they gave the Bucs fantastic field position.

Weak ass scheme?? Goddamn.. they let up 16 points on the road.. and didn't give up a touchdown til the end of the fucking game after the offense blew it.

I get it.. you hate the scheme.. you think it's soft.. I get it.

But it just ain't why this team is losing games and would be good enough to win with anything close to a functioning offense.

 

[payote75]

Ok, I'm going to go against my last post and respond one last time.

It was good enough - for 59 minutes. But we needed it to be good enough for 60 minutes, and with a few schematic changes it could have been.

But say i agree with you does it make sense that the defense was good for 59 minutes and the offense was good for what 24 seconds????? That doesn't exactly seem fair does it.

 

[Kupped]

Ok, I'm going to go against my last post and respond one last time.

It was good enough - for 59 minutes. But we needed it to be good enough for 60 minutes, and with a few schematic changes it could have been.

Bullshit.
It was good enough to win.
The offense not only couldn't kill any time.. they couldn't get them into better field position to defend.

It's absolute bullshit. Sorry.

That defensive scheme was/is good enough. Go look at winning percentages when you give up 16 points... then look up winning percentages when you score 13.

Guess which one is a hell of a lot worse than the other?

 

[thirteen28]

Chew on this for a while:

Next Gen stat of the game: The Buccaneers had just a 5% chance of winning after they turned the ball over on downs with 1:52 remaining in the game, trailing 13-9. Tom Brady completed 5 of 6 passes for 54 yards and a TD (+21.3% CPOE) on the Buccaneers' game-winning drive.

 

[PhillyRam]

Lol.

Well.. the offensive players said as much as well.

It worked wonders and would've won the game with anything but the worst of offenses. They couldn't get a fucking first down. Not only could they have killed the clock.. they gave the Bucs fantastic field position.

Weak ass scheme?? Goddamn.. they let up 16 points on the road.. and didn't give up a touchdown til the end of the fucking game after the offense blew it.

I get it.. you hate the scheme.. you think it's soft.. I get it.

But it just ain't why this team is losing games and would be good enough to win with anything close to a functioning offense.

You have to adjust to the moment though. You're outthere and you can and should still win the game. The defense was good all game against an anemic offense. Now they unfortunately had to go back outthere again and allowing a 60 yd scoring drive in 36 seconds with ZERO timeouts was absurd.

 

[payote75]

If the offense is good for even 25 minutes we probably blow them out lol. There were no sustained drive providing rest yet it tool last 16 seconds to give up a TD.

 

[thirteen28]

That doesn't exactly seem fair does it.

Who said anything about fair?? Life isn't fair, period. You deal with the situation at hand.

 

[Kupped]

Who said anything about fair?? Life isn't fair, period. You deal with the situation at hand.

Right.. which is the offense sucked balls.. and you give a team enough shots on a short field, you're gonna pay the price.
The defense, literally, just completed a successful goal-line stand. On the road. Late in the 4th.

They. Did. Their. Fucking. Job.

And that's what the situation is. The offense completely choked.

 

[raised_fisT]

Jalen is 100% right.
They had their stop at the goal line on 4th down. Game should have been over at that point. Imagine going from that high to a minute later having to put your helmet back on.

How many other teams in the league would have shit the bed like that?
Maybe us and 2 others?

Ive been on McVay for the conservative , pussyball tactics for a while now. We are in waaaayyyy too many 1 score games when we should have blown teams out.

I'm glad more people are starting to see that there is no killer instinct on offense. Only guy with that mentality is Coop.

 

[Ric Flair]

Amazing to see Morris's personally secretary still here, telling everybody "Don't believe your eyes. You didn't see what everybody else sees!" Soft Shell defenses win games.........Except this one and 4 other games this year.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Nonsense.
The D made more than enough plays to win. They stopped the Bucs. The O choked it.

I respectfully disagree.

The D made a few plays. And combined them with a cracked shell D that let a mummy of a man move down the field at will. Luckily for us, we were in the game for a while because his receivers couldn't hang unto their wide open passes.

 

[Kupped]

Amazing to see Morris's personally secretary still here, telling everybody "Don't believe your eyes. You didn't see what everybody else sees!" Soft Shell defenses win games.........Except this one and 4 other games this year.

Amazing you don't take it up with the other posters on several threads calling the offense out.

Amazing you don't see the offense getting -5 yard in the 4th quarter being the problem.

 

[Kupped]

I respectfully disagree.

The D made a few plays. And combined them with a cracked shell D that let a mummy of a man move down the field at will. Luckily for us, we were in the game for a while because his receivers couldn't hang unto their wide open passes.

The Bucs had 323 total yards of offense.
If the Rams had one fourth quarter drive, they win the game.

And the defense made the plays to stop them with 2 minutes to play.

If you disagree, then you're saying the offense did enough to win this game.

 

[payote75]

Chew on this for a while:

Dude that's cherry picking though. Yes they gave it up bit 59:14 of 3 fgs should have been enough to blow them out. How long was the offense good for again 24 seconds????

You can't win with 13 pts especially when you failed to get an edge rusher.

Also I ask everyone again if I tell you guys prior to this game the rams will score 13 pts total today who signs up for a rams win.

By the same token if I tell you the bucs score 16 points today. How many people think at least shot to win if not definite win???? (Despite offense being weak)

 

[Kupped]

Dude that's cherry picking though. Yes they gave it up bit 59:14 of 3 fgs should have been enough to blow them out. How long was the offense good for again 24 seconds????

You can't win with 13 pts especially when you failed to get an edge rusher.

Also I ask everyone again if I tell you guys prior to this game the rams will score 13 pts total today who signs up for a rams win.

By the same token if I tell you the bucs score 16 points today. How many people think at least shot to win if not definite win???? (Despite offense being weak)

The last two lines are really the crux of it.. and if anyone says the Rams would win if they scored 13 points is, categorically, full of shit.

 

[payote75]

Who said anything about fair?? Life isn't fair, period. You deal with the situation at hand.

That's like just stupid talk no offense your argument is weak. You expect 60 minutes from the defense and I understand that and your right but then what do you expect from the offense? Do you not expect the same 60 minutes. Had you got that same 59 minutes from the offense we arent having a vent thread. Would be blowout victory thread.

 

[thirteen28]

Dude that's cherry picking though. Yes they gave it up bit 59:14 of 3 fgs should have been enough to blow them out. How long was the offense good for again 24 seconds????

You can't win with 13 pts especially when you failed to get an edge rusher.

Also I ask everyone again if I tell you guys prior to this game the rams will score 13 pts total today who signs up for a rams win.

By the same token if I tell you the bucs score 16 points today. How many people think at least shot to win if not definite win???? (Despite offense being weak)

By the same token, if I tell you we have a four point lead with less than a minute to go and they are 60 yards from the end zone, how many people think we should probably win?

Let's try this too. Anyone remember a boxing match between Big John Taint and Mike Weaver in 1980? Taint dominated that fight for 14 and a half rounds. Great defense, frustrated Weaver all night. So was his defense good enough to win the fight? You be the judge.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ6qgLIGmtw

 

[“Turbo set!”]

Normally I don't think Ramsey should call out the O like that but what else is there to do at this point? Season is in the balance.