Vent Thread - Rams at Bucs

[Ric Flair]

Amazing you don't take it up with the other posters on several threads calling the offense out.

Amazing you don't see the offense getting -5 yard in the 4th quarter being the problem.

You know dic about football, especially defense. Something tells me you might know Morris's favorite position though.........
Stop being an argumentative idiot and you might get more respect around here. Trust me girl, There's not a national expert right "praising" Morris's shitty D right now.

 

[Kupped]

By the same token, if I tell you we have a four point lead with less than a minute to go and they are 60 yards from the end zone, how many people think we should probably win?

Let's try this too. Anyone remember a boxing match between Big John Taint and Mike Weaver in 1980? Taint dominated that fight for 14 and a half rounds. Great defense, frustrated Weaver all night. So was his defense good enough to win the fight? You be the judge.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ6qgLIGmtw

Football isn't boxing, so.. whatever.

I get your point.
But it's a team game and it's 60 minutes. And when one part of your team simply doesn't do it's job at all, you can't expect the other parts to completely carry the weight. It just doesn't work that way. Once in a while? Sure!

But, the team and the players know.. and that's why they're all calling out the offense.

 

[thirteen28]

You expect 60 minutes from the defense and I understand that and your right but then what do you expect from the offense?

I expect a lot more from the offense and have harshly criticized McVay for his performance in this very game, particularly his inexplicable willingness to trot out a QB-killer like Evans as part of his starting OL.

But I will make no bones about criticizing the D - and particularly, the scheme as implemented by the DC - when we have a four point lead with under a minute to play and the other team is 60 yards from the end zone with no timeouts. We can say it's unfair all day that they were put in that position, and true or not, that was the situation. And a few adjustments by the DC to take away some easy throws and keep them inbounds could have led to one more successful stop. I fail to see how making those adjustments and calling the D a little smarter at that point it expecting too much.

 

[Kupped]

You know dic about football, especially defense. Something tells me you might know Morris's favorite position though.........
Stop being an argumentative idiot and you might get more respect around here. Trust me girl, There's not a national expert right "praising" Morris's shitty D right now.

Couldn't give two shits about some ass clown who thinks homophobic taunts mean something.

You haven't said shit worth noting and parrot others. Come up with a fresh take.

Who gives a fuck about "national praise"? Oh.. I get it.. you need validation and that's why it matters to you.

Not me. I look at the game.. look at the numbers and listen to the players and coaches. They're all saying the same thing tonight.. the defense played good enough to win.. the offense choked.

You? You're choking on something else.

 

[Kupped]

I expect a lot more from the offense and have harshly criticized McVay for his performance in this very game, particularly his inexplicable willingness to trot out a QB-killer like Evans as part of his starting OL.

But I will make no bones about criticizing the D - and particularly, the scheme as implemented by the DC - when we have a four point lead with under a minute to play and the other team is 60 yards from the end zone with no timeouts. We can say it's unfair all day that they were put in that position, and true or not, that was the situation. And a few adjustments by the DC to take away some easy throws and keep them inbounds could have led to one more successful stop. I fail to see how making those adjustments and calling the D a little smarter at that point it expecting too much.

Maybe it's not about expecting too much of the D.. but about expecting too little from the O.

Because the D shouldn't have been out there. They were gassed and gave it all.. why do you think Ramsey's calling them out?

 

[Pancake]

The OL is still the major problem. With a good OL this team is probably a contender.

 

[payote75]

I expect a lot more from the offense and have harshly criticized McVay for his performance in this very game, particularly his inexplicable willingness to trot out a QB-killer like Evans as part of his starting OL.

But I will make no bones about criticizing the D - and particularly, the scheme as implemented by the DC - when we have a four point lead with under a minute to play and the other team is 60 yards from the end zone with no timeouts. We can say it's unfair all day that they were put in that position, and true or not, that was the situation. And a few adjustments by the DC to take away some easy throws and keep them inbounds could have led to one more successful stop. I fail to see how making those adjustments and calling the D a little smarter at that point it expecting too much.

Again there is room to criticize both sides but anyone that looks at the big picture would find it ridiculous to pin the loss on the defense when your argument is you expect 60 minutes so 59 minutes means nothing I get it the last 16 counts but what about 20 minutes at least from the offense would that have helped .....yes it would so clearly using your numbers then we could have and should have if the offense is even remotely capable of doing 1/3 of it's job. Doesn't work that way.

 

[thirteen28]

Again there is room to criticize both sides but anyone that looks at the big picture would find it ridiculous to pin the loss on the defense when your argument is you expect 60 minutes so 59 minutes means nothing I get it the last 16 counts but what about 20 minutes at least from the offense would that have helped .....yes it would so clearly using your numbers then we could have and should have if the offense is even remotely capable of doing 1/3 of it's job. Doesn't work that way.

Do you think Morris schemed the D correctly for that last drive? Simple yes or no question.

 

[OldSchool]

No, they shouldn't have had to been back out there, but they were. And it was their job to stop.

Mind you, I don't blame Ramsey, AD, or the other players, I blame the playcalls by the DC that put them in a bad position.

This defensive scheme - especially on the last drive - doesn't play to the strength of generational talents like AD and JR. You think otherwise, and I've already noted the futility of trying to convince you so this will be the end of my discussion in this thread with you.

See this is the attitude that just baffles the rest of us. Your entire post blames the D and Morris. No comment about the offense not being able to get a first down in the entire fourth quarter. But lets shit on the D that kept us in the game.

 

[payote75]

I expect a lot more from the offense and have harshly criticized McVay for his performance in this very game, particularly his inexplicable willingness to trot out a QB-killer like Evans as part of his starting OL.

But I will make no bones about criticizing the D - and particularly, the scheme as implemented by the DC - when we have a four point lead with under a minute to play and the other team is 60 yards from the end zone with no timeouts. We can say it's unfair all day that they were put in that position, and true or not, that was the situation. And a few adjustments by the DC to take away some easy throws and keep them inbounds could have led to one more successful stop. I fail to see how making those adjustments and calling the D a little smarter at that point it expecting too much.

Honestly like I don't get the thought process …..if the Rams gave up 9 points every game from now til whenever the season ends for them can we honestly say well then that's a shoe in to repeat. If the answer is no then we know where the problem lies. Because if that same deal was struck with most teams In the league rt now they probably are a shoe-in to win the Superbowl.

 

[OldSchool]

Again there is room to criticize both sides but anyone that looks at the big picture would find it ridiculous to pin the loss on the defense when your argument is you expect 60 minutes so 59 minutes means nothing I get it the last 16 counts but what about 20 minutes at least from the offense would that have helped .....yes it would so clearly using your numbers then we could have and should have if the offense is even remotely capable of doing 1/3 of it's job. Doesn't work that way.

Especially when the offense gave us 7 minutes the entire game.

 

[thirteen28]

See this is the attitude that just baffles the rest of us. Your entire post blames the D and Morris. No comment about the offense not being able to get a first down in the entire fourth quarter. But lets shit on the D that kept us in the game.

Dude look around my other posts on this game. I have given absolutely no quarter to McVay or the offense for their shit performance in this game, starting with the inexplicable decision to keep putting Evans out there to endanger his prize QB.

But it’s not either/or, and I’m simply not going to pretend Morris did a good job with the D in that last drive no matter how bad the O played because we had they lead, they had no timeouts, and they needed to go 60 yards for a TD. Bad offense is not an excuse for Morris to shit the bed in that situation.

 

[OldSchool]

But it’s not either/or, and I’m simply not going to pretend Morris did a good job with the D in that last drive no matter how bad the O played because we had they lead, they had no timeouts, and they needed to go 60 yards for a TD. Bad offense is not an excuse for Morris to shit the bed in that situation.

And Morris did in fact do a great job until the last drive for Tampa. People don't understand why the Rams run the defense they do in spot of McVay telling us countless times why they do it. Listen to McVay and the players talk after the game. Morris isn't the one who needs to fix shit with this team. That's his boss. This mindless hate that Morris gets is baffling since we have the #30 offense in the league scoring wise and the #10 defense. Forget it swore I was done with this shit on Morris stuff.

 

[Kupped]

Dude look around my other posts on this game. I have given absolutely no quarter to McVay or the offense for their shit performance in this game, starting with the inexplicable decision to keep putting Evans out there to endanger his prize QB.

But it’s not either/or, and I’m simply not going to pretend Morris did a good job with the D in that last drive no matter how bad the O played because we had they lead, they had no timeouts, and they needed to go 60 yards for a TD. Bad offense is not an excuse for Morris to shit the bed in that situation.

It’s not “either/or”… but any reasonable look at that game would say the reason they lost is the offense.
Any reasonable look would say the defense played well enough to win the game.

That’s the point.

 

[payote75]

Especially when the offense gave us 7 minutes the entire game.

I only count the Kupp plays you sure it was 7 lolol

 

[thirteen28]

“Until the last drive.”

Thank you.

That’s progress.

As it was noted upthread (or maybe in another one), teams in TB’s situation - no timeouts, 60 or more yards to go, needing a touchdown - had about a 1% chance of winning. Which means Morris had 99% odds on his side.

A few adjustments and he could have closed the deal, even with our shitshow of an offense today.

 

[Kupped]

“Until the last drive.”

Thank you.

That’s progress.

As it was noted upthread (or maybe in another one), teams in TB’s situation - no timeouts, 60 or more yards to go, needing a touchdown - had about a 1% chance of winning. Which means Morris had 99% odds on his side.

A few adjustments and he could have closed the deal, even with our shitshow of an offense today.

The Rams had something like a 92% win probability when they stopped the Bucs with 2 to play.

 

[Kupped]

“Until the last drive.”

Thank you.

That’s progress.

As it was noted upthread (or maybe in another one), teams in TB’s situation - no timeouts, 60 or more yards to go, needing a touchdown - had about a 1% chance of winning. Which means Morris had 99% odds on his side.

A few adjustments and he could have closed the deal, even with our shitshow of an offense today.

Would you expect your offense to get one first down in the 4th quarter?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Lol.

Well.. the offensive players said as much as well.

It worked wonders and would've won the game with anything but the worst of offenses. They couldn't get a fucking first down. Not only could they have killed the clock.. they gave the Bucs fantastic field position.

Weak ass scheme?? Goddamn.. they let up 16 points on the road.. and didn't give up a touchdown til the end of the fucking game after the offense blew it.

I get it.. you hate the scheme.. you think it's soft.. I get it.

But it just ain't why this team is losing games and would be good enough to win with anything close to a functioning offense.

You are simply brushing over the fact I said it was weak for that last drive. The defense did more than enough all game long, but for the end of the game situation, it was a terrible scheme to run. You can't honestly say that last series was good schematically. I get it, the offense sucks, but the defense still had a chance to win it at the end and they choked. I hope you also realize that I've said that the offense deserves way more blame more than once.

 

[payote75]

“Until the last drive.”

Thank you.

That’s progress.

As it was noted upthread (or maybe in another one), teams in TB’s situation - no timeouts, 60 or more yards to go, needing a touchdown - had about a 1% chance of winning. Which means Morris had 99% odds on his side.

A few adjustments and he could have closed the deal, even with our shitshow of an offense today.

what were the overall chance/percentages of winning from the beginning if you give Tampa 9 pts scored. You can do that all day but sadly that last minute does not depict the game in its entirety again it’s cherry picking.