Tutu not likely to re-sign

[Elmgrovegnome]

I don't understand because the Rams has Tavon Austin when McVay arrived and he wasn't used either. I was puzzled when they drafted Tutu. But I liked him. He made seemingly big plays in crucial times, especially against the whiners.

There were a bunch of small receivers in that draft if you recall. I think one amounted to something.

I think it’s McVays desire to use his receivers in the run game that held Tutu back. But also he was too easily pushed around. So that meant to use him McVay had to do some things differently at the line of scrimmage. In the end he just didn’t like the adjustments.

The biggest question is why draft Tutu at all. I think McVay felt that Tutu could go what Brandon Cooks could do. Which is odd. Because he didn’t keep Cooks and even when he had DeSean Jackson he didn’t use him either.

All I can figure is they didn’t like many options at their pick, couldn’t trade out and took a risk.

Who really knows? I’d love to find out the whole story.

 

[Merlin]

I laugh too in thinking that some folks think McVay somehow doesn't have certain weaknesses (very few I might add), but he is human afterall.

I have criticized him plenty and still do. I hate his preseason approach for one, it hurts both lines every season with a slow start. His teams always have the achilles heel of physicality, even after he and Snead have spent efforts trying to improve it. His challenges suck on gameday. He gets the blame for taking Tutu where he did, as this entire organization is aligned behind McVay. And so on.

But one thing the dude is a straight badass at is his pass game design and he has the highest expectations with that group and the QBs.

Nobody he has let go has burned him yet. And I doubt that changes with Tutu. The guy has a narrow window where he is applicable. In the NFL that means he's an accessory piece and it's why he's a round 2 bust and why the Rams will let him test the market.

 

[Cjcinec]

Kupp's not seeing the field next year. Does that mean McVay doesn't trust him anymore?

Well that’s pure speculation. We will see eventually. But you’re comparing someone who was a top receiver for the team to a backup. It’s pretty obvious who was trusted. Just look at the snap count. And by the way it’s not just McVay making those decisions. Do you understand that?

 

[Cjcinec]

There were a bunch of small receivers in that draft if you recall. I think one amounted to something.

I think it’s McVays desire to use his receivers in the run game that held Tutu back. But also he was too easily pushed around. So that meant to use him McVay had to do some things differently at the line of scrimmage. In the end he just didn’t like the adjustments.

The biggest question is why draft Tutu at all. I think McVay felt that Tutu could go what Brandon Cooks could do. Which is odd. Because he didn’t keep Cooks and even when he had DeSean Jackson he didn’t use him either.

All I can figure is they didn’t like many options at their pick, couldn’t trade out and took a risk.

Who really knows? I’d love to find out the whole story.

 

[Cjcinec]

There were a bunch of small receivers in that draft if you recall. I think one amounted to something.

I think it’s McVays desire to use his receivers in the run game that held Tutu back. But also he was too easily pushed around. So that meant to use him McVay had to do some things differently at the line of scrimmage. In the end he just didn’t like the adjustments.

The biggest question is why draft Tutu at all. I think McVay felt that Tutu could go what Brandon Cooks could do. Which is odd. Because he didn’t keep Cooks and even when he had DeSean Jackson he didn’t use him either.

All I can figure is they didn’t like many options at their pick, couldn’t trade out and took a risk.

Who really knows? I’d love to find out the whole story.

In the draft the Rams were supposedly really high on a Tutu clone Dee Eskridge who the Seahawks took one pick earlier. Eskridge got concussed on his first reception and missed a ton of time before finally getting released after two seasons with the Seahawks. At least he could return punts and kickoffs which is something that Tu Tu never could do. If he could have it might have carved out a role for him to stay around.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I have criticized him plenty and still do. I hate his preseason approach for one, it hurts both lines every season with a slow start. His teams always have the achilles heel of physicality, even after he and Snead have spent efforts trying to improve it. His challenges suck on gameday. He gets the blame for taking Tutu where he did, as this entire organization is aligned behind McVay. And so on.

But one thing the dude is a straight badass at is his pass game design and he has the highest expectations with that group and the QBs.

Nobody he has let go has burned him yet. And I doubt that changes with Tutu. The guy has a narrow window where he is applicable. In the NFL that means he's an accessory piece and it's why he's a round 2 bust and why the Rams will let him test the market.

I have zero issues with them letting Tutu walk as McVay clearly had no way to use him for whatever reason. I certainly don't view him as any worse of a coach for it, just simply that he screwed the pooch with that particular pick. I'd never expect him to be perfect, but I'd take McVay over any coach out there. I just hope he learned from it and doesn't panic pick anymore since that's what I feel Tutu was during thar draft. I totally agree with your assessment of what he needs to improve on. I'll add that I wish he'd vary his play calling more every now and then with his formations. I'll also say I hate when he gives up on the run too easily in some games. I mean honestly, it's nit-picking because no coach is going to call a game perfect 24/7. Seeing how McVay is, it wouldn't surprise me to see him shore up those things as I imagine he's his biggest critic by far.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I have zero issues with them letting Tutu walk as McVay clearly had no way to use him for whatever reason. I certainly don't view him as any worse of a coach for it, just simply that he screwed the pooch with that particular pick. I'd never expect him to be perfect, but I'd take McVay over any coach out there. I just hope he learned from it and doesn't panic pick anymore since that's what I feel Tutu was during thar draft. I totally agree with your assessment of what he needs to improve on. I'll add that I wish he'd vary his play calling more every now and then with his formations. I'll also say I hate when he gives up on the run too easily in some games. I mean honestly, it's nit-picking because no coach is going to call a game perfect 24/7. Seeing how McVay is, it wouldn't surprise me to see him shore up those things as I imagine he's his biggest critic by far.

I think if Tutu could play like Worthy does with the Chiefs, then he'd have had a bigger role. Worthy is more physical and changes direction better. He accelerates quicker out of breaks. Maybe that's what McVay thought he was getting.

 

[Tano]

I think if Tutu could play like Worthy does with the Chiefs, then he'd have had a bigger role. Worthy is more physical and changes direction better. He accelerates quicker out of breaks. Maybe that's what McVay thought he was getting.

Worthy is 5 11 165

I bet he is even heavier now too.

Tutu just does not have the physicality with his size.

 

[InfiniteRam]

I think if Tutu could play like Worthy does with the Chiefs, then he'd have had a bigger role. Worthy is more physical and changes direction better. He accelerates quicker out of breaks. Maybe that's what McVay thought he was getting.

Worthy played nearly 1.7x the snaps Tutu did, and had barely more yards. ADOT is not even comparable. Completely different usage.

We'll never really understand why he wasn't used more here.

It's hard for me to rationalize that this player had a five game stretch this year of 23 catches and 332 yards, and cannot be integrated into the offense.

 

[dang]

So the Rams have Nacua/Kupp/Whitt as the only viable WRs under contract. If they trade/cut Kupp they are down to Nacua/Whitt. That makes TE/WR #1 priority. I believe they fill one spot with DRob or…hold (I know it’s controversial) ...Atwell. Probably keep Smith/Stoos as depth/punt returner. IMO that means at least 1 quality FA and 1 high Draft pick. I’m in on a Godwin/Adams as I think they could be within cap constraints. Higgins is likely too much $$$.

 

[WestCoastRam]

So the Rams have Nacua/Kupp/Whitt as the only viable WRs under contract. If they trade/cut Kupp they are down to Nacua/Whitt. That makes TE/WR #1 priority. I believe they fill one spot with DRob or…hold (I know it’s controversial) ...Atwell. Probably keep Smith/Stoos as depth/punt returner. IMO that means at least 1 quality FA and 1 high Draft pick. I’m in on a Godwin/Adams as I think they could be within cap constraints. Higgins is likely too much $$$.

If they resign DRob which I think is the most prudent move, than I think they've got a starting three there (Not saying it's a good starting three!) in Nacua, DRob and Whitt. I'm not sure they sign a WR after that but look to fill things out with two pass catchers in the draft.

The TE class is strong, I imagine one is coming from there and most likely a WR at some point. In this scenario, I suspect our 12 personnel to go through the roof and we slightly move away from an "everything looks the same" offense which we began to do last year some. I suspect our offense will look a bit more like the 49ers offense last three years in general.

And yeah, there's a scenario where Tutu comes back but I think it's unlikely. I think he'll get a modest contract somewhere else. Possibly with connections to LA. ATL maybe.

 

[dieterbrock]

It's hard for me to rationalize that this player had a five game stretch this year of 23 catches and 332 yards, and cannot be integrated into the offense.

Because in those 5 games there was no Puka or Kupp and that was all he was able to accomplish? Those 5 games are more of an indictment of his performance than a positive. Guys like Tyler Johnson D Rob and Whittington had moments of outperforming him in that stretch

 

[Mojo Ram]

I’d rather continue to develop Xavier Smith to be honest

 

[AZRams]

When will the drama end...

BTW, the Chief`s center pretty much holds that entire offensive line together, and even allowed them to play a OG at OT.

Ooopsie

 

[AZRams]

There were a bunch of small receivers in that draft if you recall. I think one amounted to something.

I think it’s McVays desire to use his receivers in the run game that held Tutu back. But also he was too easily pushed around. So that meant to use him McVay had to do some things differently at the line of scrimmage. In the end he just didn’t like the adjustments.

The biggest question is why draft Tutu at all. I think McVay felt that Tutu could go what Brandon Cooks could do. Which is odd. Because he didn’t keep Cooks and even when he had DeSean Jackson he didn’t use him either.

All I can figure is they didn’t like many options at their pick, couldn’t trade out and took a risk.

Who really knows? I’d love to find out the whole story.

Rondale Moore that went to AZ that supposedly McVay had a thing for, Atwell and D''Wayne Eskridge that didn't do a damn thing in Seattle.

Moore was traded this last season after putting together roughly one highlight play in his three-plus seasons ( a 78-yd TD I could have scored when the defender had fallen down), Eskridge essentially never got on the field and then Tutu did what Tutu did...

Hardly inspring.

 

[Corbin]

*** warning ***
Read this with a nature Documentary English accent



“Tutu supporters are very closely related to Goff supporters and here in the wild watching them comment in their own environment a marvelous thing is happening.

Articulately, Tutu supporters carry on their behavior, trying to make up for their own wrong takes years in the making.

Socializing behavior like this has led to being able to carry on that same behavior to their offspring for generations.

When confronted, the Tutu supporters rile up their feathers in defense of their dreadful opinions, which in turn, keeps their egos to carry on for another day…”

 

[HX76]

*** warning ***
Read this with a nature Documentary English accent



“Tutu supporters are very closely related to Goff supporters and here in the wild watching them comment in their own environment a marvelous thing is happening.

Articulately, Tutu supporters carry on their behavior, trying to make up for their own wrong takes years in the making.

Socializing behavior like this has led to being able to carry on that same behavior to their offspring for generations.

When confronted, the Tutu supporters rile up their feathers in defense of their dreadful opinions, which in turn, keeps their egos to carry on for another day…”

Would you like me to narrate that for you?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Rondale Moore that went to AZ that supposedly McVay had a thing for, Atwell and D''Wayne Eskridge that didn't do a damn thing in Seattle.

Moore was traded this last season after putting together roughly one highlight play in his three-plus seasons ( a 78-yd TD I could have scored when the defender had fallen down), Eskridge essentially never got on the field and then Tutu did what Tutu did...

Hardly inspring.

Neither is Atwell

 

[Memento]

Finally. I’ll never have to say his first name ever again!!!!

 

[Ram_Rally]

Great player but just too limited physically which impacts the way he can be used.