Tutu not likely to re-sign

[kurtfaulk]

My comment was to point out like I said above that's great he did ok when he was in the lineup. So why do we need to resign somebody to a 2nd contract when all they are is an injury sub at best. Draft somebody and they'll do as much if not more all the time.

I couldn't agree more. I doubt the Rams make him any offer at all.

Also, Tutu would have rocks in his head to come back and sit on the bench.

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[El Chapo Jr]

If they resign DRob which I think is the most prudent move, than I think they've got a starting three there (Not saying it's a good starting three!) in Nacua, DRob and Whitt. I'm not sure they sign a WR after that but look to fill things out with two pass catchers in the draft.

The TE class is strong, I imagine one is coming from there and most likely a WR at some point. In this scenario, I suspect our 12 personnel to go through the roof and we slightly move away from an "everything looks the same" offense which we began to do last year some. I suspect our offense will look a bit more like the 49ers offense last three years in general.

And yeah, there's a scenario where Tutu comes back but I think it's unlikely. I think he'll get a modest contract somewhere else. Possibly with connections to LA. ATL maybe.

No way they don't try to strengthen that WR room via FA if they can swing it. Whittington is completely unproven and DRob is a short term answer at best. Don't take this as I don't love the WRs, but I can see McBay wanting to make that WR room more explosive. If we swing getting a good WR in FA (yes I know not a guarantee) it opens up adding better pieces at other positions to strengthen our team overall. As I said earlier today about the draft, its way too early in the process to see how all this shakes out. I could be wrong, you could right, ir we can both be wrong lol. Just too many variables at this moment.

 

[WestCoastRam]

No way they don't try to strengthen that WR room via FA if they can swing it. Whittington is completely unproven and DRob is a short term answer at best. Don't take this as I don't love the WRs, but I can see McBay wanting to make that WR room more explosive. If we swing getting a good WR in FA (yes I know not a guarantee) it opens up adding better pieces at other positions to strengthen our team overall. As I said earlier today about the draft, its way too early in the process to see how all this shakes out. I could be wrong, you could right, ir we can both be wrong lol. Just too many variables at this moment.

I guess, what guy can they get in FA that would be any good? Outside of Higgens and Godwin who I think we'll both be priced out of, I don't see anyone out there that would really be interesting.

Slayton, I guess, and that's a gamble. I also think he might get more money than is prudent. But I might make a play for him and cross my fingers.

Cuts haven't come yet though, so maybe they're be something there.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I guess, what guy can they get in FA that would be any good? Outside of Higgens and Godwin who I think we'll both be priced out of, I don't see anyone out there that would really be interesting.

Slayton, I guess, and that's a gamble. I also think he might get more money than is prudent. But I might make a play for him and cross my fingers.

Cuts haven't come yet though, so maybe they're be something there.

That's exactly why I'm just not super comfortable with predicting what they'll do. We don't know who will get cut or what options the Rams will look at. Either way, gonna be another interesting off-season. Shit I still remember when Woods came out of left field as an addition. He turned out ok lol

 

[DzRams]

No way they don't try to strengthen that WR room via FA if they can swing it. Whittington is completely unproven and DRob is a short term answer at best. Don't take this as I don't love the WRs, but I can see McBay wanting to make that WR room more explosive. If we swing getting a good WR in FA (yes I know not a guarantee) it opens up adding better pieces at other positions to strengthen our team overall. As I said earlier today about the draft, its way too early in the process to see how all this shakes out. I could be wrong, you could right, ir we can both be wrong lol. Just too many variables at this moment.

I agree with you. I see almost no chance of them going with a base WR room of Nacua / Whittington / DRob. That's a substantial downgrade to last year when I think they will make a massive effort to upgrade the room.

On DRob, I don't understand why it's a popular suggestion for him to be resigned. Most agree that Tuto won't be back and I agree with that. But he had more yards than DRob in fewer than half the snaps. DRob should be less of an option than Atwell.

If they trade Kupp and don't pick up a free agent, WR would be such an acute need that they're almost forced to go that route at 26.

 

[WestCoastRam]

That's exactly why I'm just not super comfortable with predicting what they'll do. We don't know who will get cut or what options the Rams will look at. Either way, gonna be another interesting off-season. Shit I still remember when Woods came out of left field as an addition. He turned out ok lol

I think if you're someone who looks at Slayton and likes what you see; Woods and Watkins are a good example of WRs on a bad team with crap QB play who moved on and had much more success.

 

[Steve808]

I would like to see Kupp stay if the Rams can renegotiate his deal to be more cap friendly.

 

[Loyal]

I agree with you. I see almost no chance of them going with a base WR room of Nacua / Whittington / DRob. That's a substantial downgrade to last year when I think they will make a massive effort to upgrade the room.

On DRob, I don't understand why it's a popular suggestion for him to be resigned. Most agree that Tuto won't be back and I agree with that. But he had more yards than DRob in fewer than half the snaps. DRob should be less of an option than Atwell.

If they trade Kupp and don't pick up a free agent, WR would be such an acute need that they're almost forced to go that route at 26.

I don't know. DRob had more consequential receptions during games than Tutu. DRob was at times a Stafford security blanket.

 

[DzRams]

I don't know. DRob had more consequential receptions during games than Tutu. DRob was at times a Stafford security blanket.

Consequential receptions!!? I do believe you just made up a new stat. Trade mark worthy!

In all seriousness though, I recall Tutu having several clutch catches. Also, remember that DRob should have more of every type of reception since he had double the snaps. Yet somehow DRob had fewer receptions.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I don't know. DRob had more consequential receptions during games than Tutu. DRob was at times a Stafford security blanket.

DRob was the number 2 receiver for most of the year including when Kupp came back.

 

[dieterbrock]

Also, does anyone recall a single time TuTu lined up on the LOS and caught a pass?

Nope. I get that folks are enamored with his speed, but he cant get off the line and cant run block downfield. He clearly is a hard worker and good team mate, otherwise McVay would have gotten rid of him. So he'll make an occasional grab because teams arent gaming for him, heck Brycen Hopkins made some big catches in the Superbowl the same way.

 

[dieterbrock]

Significantly more productive than Robinson (snap by snap), who played 82% of the snaps.

Lol
More productive?
Robinson 7 TD
Tutu 0 TD

 

[RhodyRams]

Finally. I’ll never have to say his first name ever again!!!!

do you use Puka or Makea?

 

[OldSchool]

do you use Puka or Makea?

@Memento 's hypocrisy only goes so far.

 

[RamBradford85]

He doesn’t get more playing time because of what the coaches see in practice. So when he gets rare opportunities, it takes the defense by surprise.
Questioning McVay ability is mind boggling.
Tutu has speed and not much else. McVay got the most out of him

Completely disagree Mcvay just got a type when it come to wr … he like the non exciting slot reciver type… I get it but it’s holding the offense back

 

[RamBradford85]

I have criticized him plenty and still do. I hate his preseason approach for one, it hurts both lines every season with a slow start. His teams always have the achilles heel of physicality, even after he and Snead have spent efforts trying to improve it. His challenges suck on gameday. He gets the blame for taking Tutu where he did, as this entire organization is aligned behind McVay. And so on.

But one thing the dude is a straight badass at is his pass game design and he has the highest expectations with that group and the QBs.

Nobody he has let go has burned him yet. And I doubt that changes with Tutu. The guy has a narrow window where he is applicable. In the NFL that means he's an accessory piece and it's why he's a round 2 bust and why the Rams will let him test the market.

I disagree Mcvay only good with basic slot recivers

 

[dang]

He doesn’t get more playing time because of what the coaches see in practice. So when he gets rare opportunities, it takes the defense by surprise.
Questioning McVay ability is mind boggling.
Tutu has speed and not much else. McVay got the most out of him

I consistently see Tutu finding space and making tough catches when he is open. His problem is making contested catches. I’ll concede but I thought he was more of a weapon than how McVay used him or Stafford targeted him.

 

[Jacobarch]

I keep scrolling through these threads hoping to see something substantial, but no.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I consistently see Tutu finding space and making tough catches when he is open. His problem is making contested catches. I’ll concede but I thought he was more of a weapon than how McVay used him or Stafford targeted him.

Agree with this. I think you could have maximized him more in this offense but it would also have come with a cost of other efficiencies in the offense too. And he was not talented enough to bend the offense to him.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Has anyone gone back and looked at the 2021 draft class at WR? I mean, I think we need to take picking Tutu into context.

The only two guys taken after him that were any good were Nico Collins and Amon-Ra St Brown. St Brown was very much like what we already had at WR. Sure, hindsight being 20/20 we should have picked Nico.

Rams wanted speed for the offense after 2020. They attacked it by going after Desean and drafting Tutu. Neither were what they ultimately were hoping for. Baring speed, they were looking for size to attack the X receiver spot with Harris and Skowrenek. They were attacking a position in a weak class.

I think it was an okay to poor swing given the circumstances. Some have speculated that it was a panic move after Eskridge was drafted by Seattle (of course he flamed out).

I suspect that all things being equal, Rams aren't really in the interest of drafting undersized WRs but you go to the draft with the players and needs you have not the players and needs you want.

Good point about the draft. This is why I advocate drafting to the strength of the draft instead of weak areas. They'd have been better off signing a receiver or just picking a different position (Humphrey center). Tutu was a forced pick, drafted too early. Center was a need and it was a good draft for centers.

Just think, if the Rams had Creed Humphrey, does Jalen Carter have as big of a game against the Rams in the playoffs?