Tutu not likely to re-sign

[RamBradford85]

Hear me out, Tutu looked like a bust when we picked him. I appreciate that he came back after year one and put in the work and at least was a useful tool.

He was overdrafted for sure. But he provided some utility and depth off the bench.

(His greatest crime was not being able to play ST at all!)

Strongly disagree

 

[El Chapo Jr]

This is very funny. Maybe he should hire you.

Shit I'd take a job there, who wouldn't ..... I laugh too in thinking that some folks think McVay somehow doesn't have certain weaknesses (very few I might add), but he is human afterall. Tutu just doesn't fit here and McVay didn't know what to do with him because he just didn't fit the offense. McVay fucked up drafting him but that's ok unless you bring up Creed Humphrey, then that shit turns into a 50 page topic lol

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Watch him go to KC so they have Tutu and Creed Humphreys

They'll be unstoppable!

 

[RamBradford85]

Just trying to see here, out of the WR who the Rams let go, any of them amount to much?
I laugh at the posters who say stuff like McVay didnt know how to use him. Truth is, if McVay cant figure it out, chances are nobody can

Strongly disagree … Mcvay only good with slow slot receivers slot reciver type that’s all he pick

 

[RamBradford85]

Yep. True comedy.

Lesson for the Rams is identify the dogs who want the ball and can fight through contact, no matter their size. Remove the rest from your board, as they are distractions. Slot them based on measurables and take one when things line up.

I think TE is the biggest need though. Stafford does a lot of eye games to control defenses and gets the most from big targets, and he needs a Kupp replacement i.e. security blanket. This class is the best chance McVay has had to find that jumbo sized workhorse for the middle of the field since he came onboard.

X may end up getting pushed back again, as far as ideal types are concerned. Golden is probably a late first to early second in a normal wideout class but may go higher due to teams wanting a perimeter threat. Saw a mock with him very high, no idea what teams are thinking but supply and demand are real.

What do u think puka is he’s replacing kupp the writing been on the wall since puka rookie season was over they need a x reciver and Te more then anything

 

[Tano]

Or perhaps the player simply didn't take to the coaching or want to play his role or wasn't capable of playing his role. It's easy to blame the coaching and overlook a players deficiencies. Not every draft pick hits and not every player lives up to the fan bases hopes. Doesn't mean the GM or Coach are bad or screwed up. Shit happens but by all means keep blaming our SB winning coach it's good entertainment.

Yeah but we had a really strong idea that he would not work out after the Tavon experience.

Small receivers who are also under 160 lbs are at best complimentary pieces in an offense.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah but we had a really strong idea that he would not work out after the Tavon experience.

Small receivers who are also under 160 lbs are at best complimentary pieces in an offense.

Not only different players and different skill sets but because something doesn't work once does not mean it won't ever work. You're taking out the player factor not all 160 lbs and under players are the same that's just lazy thinking. Also neither are under 160 lbs.

 

[fearsomefour]

Or perhaps the player simply didn't take to the coaching or want to play his role or wasn't capable of playing his role. It's easy to blame the coaching and overlook a players deficiencies. Not every draft pick hits and not every player lives up to the fan bases hopes. Doesn't mean the GM or Coach are bad or screwed up. Shit happens but by all means keep blaming our SB winning coach it's good entertainment.

Of course.
Ultimately its the coaches job to develop the player. As much or more on the shoulders of the position coach within the context of the offense.
There are guys who are resistant to coaching or have attitude problems. The only things heard about Tutu was just the opposite.
It was a missed pick, in my opinion, because of how he was used, or not used, and where he was drafted.
I found the pick at that spot perplexing and still do.
This sort of discussion always goes in circles.
Its fun as a fan to question things, think about things and propose ideas or thoughts. The auto default (as with many things in society) to the expert fallacy is not fun.
Its also, at least in my case, not so much a blame game. It turned out the way it did. I agree that the biggest thing holding him back was his size limitations. It was a strange pick to me, so, I find it interesting and tried to pay attention to how he was being implemented.

 

[Tano]

Not only different players and different skill sets but because something doesn't work once does not mean it won't ever work. You're taking out the player factor not all 160 lbs and under players are the same that's just lazy thinking. Also neither are under 160 lbs.

Tutu was 155 lbs when he was drafted. I probably should have added receivers under 160 lbs when drafted do not .....

And even though they are different receivers I still stand by they were both too small.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Strongly disagree

say more

 

[fearsomefour]

Not only different players and different skill sets but because something doesn't work once does not mean it won't ever work. You're taking out the player factor not all 160 lbs and under players are the same that's just lazy thinking. Also neither are under 160 lbs.

Putting strict physical limits on drafting players would have prevented the Rams, like so many other teams, from drafting a short DT like Aaron Donald or a slow 40 time receiver like Kupp.
Playing ability.....as in actual on the field positional skill....traits as a player....football IQ....work either....then things like 40 time.
But, that's just me.

 

[OldSchool]

Tutu was 155 lbs when he was drafted. I probably should have added receivers under 160 lbs when drafted do not .....

165 at his pro day

Tutu Atwell 2021 NFL Draft Profile

The Louisville wide receiver declared early for the league, and is expected to be the first Cardinal taken in the 2021 NFL Draft.

www.si.com

 

[Tano]

165 at his pro day

Tutu Atwell 2021 NFL Draft Profile

The Louisville wide receiver declared early for the league, and is expected to be the first Cardinal taken in the 2021 NFL Draft.

www.si.com

They must have put 10 lbs of weights in his shoes and took it out when he did his drills

 

[OldSchool]

Of course.
Ultimately its the coaches job to develop the player. As much or more on the shoulders of the position coach within the context of the offense.
There are guys who are resistant to coaching or have attitude problems. The only things heard about Tutu was just the opposite.
It was a missed pick, in my opinion, because of how he was used, or not used, and where he was drafted.
I found the pick at that spot perplexing and still do.
This sort of discussion always goes in circles.
Its fun as a fan to question things, think about things and propose ideas or thoughts. The auto default (as with many things in society) to the expert fallacy is not fun.
Its also, at least in my case, not so much a blame game. It turned out the way it did. I agree that the biggest thing holding him back was his size limitations. It was a strange pick to me, so, I find it interesting and tried to pay attention to how he was being implemented.

Ultimately it takes a player to want to be coached and to be able to learn. And sometimes you just have to follow the age old wisdom and in the end it's nobody's fault just move on.

 

[dieterbrock]

Strongly disagree … Mcvay only good with slow slot receivers slot reciver type that’s all he pick

So who has done well after he let them go?

 

[fearsomefour]

What do u think puka is he’s replacing kupp the writing been on the wall since puka rookie season was over they need a x reciver and Te more then anything

Will be interesting to see what the Rams do at TE.
I think either they draft one early, first or second round and maybe trading up or down to get a gut.....or they stand pat.
I cant see them throwing more FA money into the position after Higbee and Parkinson contracts.

 

[Tano]

They must have put 10 lbs of weights in his shoes and took it out when he did his drills

Just like Kyler Murray is 5 10

 

[Tano]

So who has done well after he let them go?

Cooks but that was for an entirely different reason but just had to include for the heck of it

 

[fearsomefour]

Ultimately it takes a player to want to be coached and to be able to learn. And sometimes you just have to follow the age old wisdom and in the end it's nobody's fault just move on.

and there is the circular conversation I was talking about.
I will take a Johnny Walker Blue please, neat.

 

[fearsomefour]

Cooks

Cooks was already developed when the Rams signed him however.
He has had an interesting career.
A very, very productive first round pick that cant stay on a team.