OFFICIAL TRADE: Chiefs CB Trent McDuffie to the Rams for #29, 5th, 6th and 2027 3rd

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So then - What exactly is the definition of overpaying? It seems to be some vague notion bandied about by those on the outside. Honestly. He could go in and dick around, sour relationships by playing low ball, lose out on important deals, and would that qualify as not getting fleeced?

I'm not arguing with you here. I agree with how you framed this. But what defines things like "overpay", "good deal", etc...? IMO, it's the bottom line. How is what he is doing affecting the success of this team? I just don't think anyone outside of the negotiation can say what is truly an overpay. All we can see is if the deal worked to benefit our team.
Not being privy to the negotiation or the market, the only idea of overpaying that makes sense to me is what each individual personally believes the most they would have given up for said player.

In other words, the Rams should have offered blank compensation and if they didn't take it, then no deal.

Now my guess is the "no deal" part would have been the outcome for most deals. But since we will never know, we can all stay on our high horses thinking we know better with our limited information.:biggrin:
 
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I had us taking a CB with pick 29, so trading for an established, former 1st rounder, multi-year all-pro, is fantastic business

As people have said, there is every chance we will end up with a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2027 to offset the draft pick.

Free Agency is next. Do we still have the money to sign one more difference-maker before the draft, as well as resign some of our own players?

My only concern is that I was hoping we would trade some of our draft capital for another 1st round pick next year to address QB. They obviously have plans, so it will be fascinating to see whether we are any closer to understanding it after the 1st round of the draft
 
So then - What exactly is the definition of overpaying? It seems to be some vague notion bandied about by those on the outside. Honestly. He could go in and dick around, sour relationships by playing low ball, lose out on important deals, and would that qualify as not getting fleeced?

I'm not arguing with you here. I agree with how you framed this. But what defines things like "overpay", "good deal", etc...? IMO, it's the bottom line. How is what he is doing affecting the success of this team? I just don't think anyone outside of the negotiation can say what is truly an overpay. All we can see is if the deal worked to benefit our team.
Snead was sent in to get McDuffie. Mission accomplished.
I understood it came down to the Rams and Giants. I doubt the Giants were offering their R1.5 pick so guess their offer included their R2.37 pick + an assortment of other picks. The Rams R1.29 pick is close to a R2 pick so they probably needed to match the Giants assortment of other picks to win the trade.
All very speculative at best.
 
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That’s probably what the NYG were offering and it is better than the Rams (two 2nds or even just 29). The giants 2nd round is less than 10 picks away from 29. Their 2nd next year will be top 10 ish (say 37-45). While our 3rd is gonna be around 95. Even if they offered a 3rd next year, it’s still much earlier.

The 5th and 6th round picks are throw away with very little value. So it’s really just two picks - 29 and next years 3rd.
The 5th is where we got Nacua and McClendon. Both playing great on rookie deals. Lake was a 6th round pick. Those aren't throw away picks.
 
I would have rather given up 2 2nds, than a 1st and 3rd.

Chiefs would have probably taken it. They needed cap space.
The Rams 2nd is very late in the round (61st overall); and their 2027 second also projects to be late in the round.

Other teams would have beaten that value.

For example, it’s being reported that the Giants were competing with the Rams for McDuffie; and were offering a package that started with their 2nd rounder which is in the mid-30s. That would have easily beaten two seconds from the Rams.