OFFICIAL TRADE: Chiefs CB Trent McDuffie to the Rams for #29, 5th, 6th and 2027 3rd

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This is an interesting conversation post trade, since the Rams are still sitting at #13 only four picks behind them.

Chiefs needs and strategy pivoting? Many mocks had them taking Love the RB.
Love would be a great pick, but I know teams are typically nervous when dealing with Top 10 RBs
 
I try to keep it mathmatical and eliminate uknown variables

We gave up a round 1 21st overall value package for the 21st overall pick in 22', but unlike KC we know the value due to on field performance and KC like all teams can never be 100 on a picks ultimate value. we eliminated the risk factor.


We got a piece that will be added to our weakest position group improving that group exponentially.

We got a 2 time super bowl champ and 2 time 1st team all pro
 
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Did you notice what WE got from the Lions? Sheesh.
Of course, I love Stafford. But at the time the trade was made, most were floored at the cost, which was way higher than anybody expected. And it's not as though that was an outlier -- it's Snead's MO. I love Snead, but he does tend to get the worst in trades. Why people deny this or try to pretend it's not true is one of life's strange wonders. It's a rather mundane, incontestable observation.
 
Nice, I'm glad we addressed our biggest issue before free agency and the draft. He's young and been relatively healthy. He did hurt his knee and missed last 4 or 5 games of the season but it was a hyperextension and not a serious, long term issue. I'm not sure I'd call him a CB that can be on an island on the outside but he has a lot of versatility and is a great tackler. A great piece for Shula to move around as needed.

I actually hope we don't trade back from 13 as I think there's going to be several great players still there to take as a BPA.
Agree, Rams don't need a bunch of players that won't beat out what we already have. We need quality not quantity.
 
Well, I don't think they expected he would try to run down his gf when they drafted him. :laugh2:
Every report on him was this guys a loose cannon and I've never met anyone before with such anger issues.

Them not expecting that is part of why they were fired. Maybe they should have been better at their jobs.
 
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Me and you both....he's overdue for a great one although getting Atlanta's 1st wasn't too shabby. Fuck I wish we played better towards the end of last year cuz we'd really be sitting pretty if it were like a top 8 pick.
It seems pretty clear to any unbiased observer that Les generally over pays and under-receives in trades. And to be fair to Les, the Falcon trade was a very good one, for sure. But he's always paid a very steep price for player trades -- Ramsey, Stafford, Von, and now McDuffie. I don't know why pointing out this rather obvious fact makes people think I don't like Les as a GM or that I didn't like the players he traded for. It's like they feel personally insulted or something. Weird.
 
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It seems pretty clear to any unbiased observer that Les generally gets over pays and under-receives in trades. And to be fair to Les, the Falcon trade was a very good one, for sure. But he's always paid a very steep price for player trades -- Ramsey, Stafford, Von, and now McDuffie. I don't know why pointing out this rather obvious fact makes people think I don't like Les as a GM or that I didn't like the players he traded for. It's like they feel personally insulted or something. Weird.
Well, I might agree, one cannot surmise what other offers were on the table. If the Giants offered a second round pick and other picks, then the Rams had to trump that. Now, did the Rams have to include the 3rd in 2027? Not sure, but it is easy to communicate an overpayment without understanding other offers that the Rams were up against.
 
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So all the's GM's that supposedly got the best of Les what exactly did they get? How many have won anything since then? I know the Rams have won a SB with Ramsey and Stafford. Is the goal to accumulate more picks to appease fans for their own values of players or to build a team to win a Lombardi?

Sorry but I'll take Sneads trades and roster building every day that went towards us lifting that Lombardi trophy. You can be upset he gets "fleeced" on the way to being a Champion.
No one is mentioning championships just getting better value out of said trades involving actual players (Atlanta pick was a fleece but that was draft picks being traded not players). For example, we got peanuts for Ernest Jones yet he got traded to the Seahawks for even better picks. Snead is a still a great GM but no one is perfect. I know I've said all along, I'm greatful he's running the show. I highly doubt anyone is truly upset :laugh4:
 
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If McDuffie is going to play that star role it means Lake is about to move into full time safety usage. I think it was already likely that Curl was leaving in FA but probably more likely now.
 
Well, I might agree, one cannot surmise what other offers were on the table. If the Giants offered a second round pick and other picks, then the Rams had to trump that. Now, did the Rams have to include the 3rd in 2027? Not sure, but it is easy to communicate an overpayment without understanding other offers that the Rams were up against.
Of course, we'll never know who Les was bidding against. But it's also true that each time these player trades have happened, most of us were surprised -- sometimes very surprised -- at the steep price. And also disappointed in what he got in return for his own players. And that's not just the homer in us. Even outside observers have been routinely surprised.

That said, I'm ecstatic about getting McDuffie. Hope they can somehow manage to fill the other CB spot with a really solid FA.
 
It seems pretty clear to any unbiased observer that Les generally gets over pays and under-receives in trades. And to be fair to Les, the Falcon trade was a very good one, for sure. But he's always paid a very steep price for player trades -- Ramsey, Stafford, Von, and now McDuffie. I don't know why pointing out this rather obvious fact makes people think I don't like Les as a GM or that I didn't like the players he traded for. It's like they feel personally insulted or something. Weird.
Probably because it's not very obvious to some of us on some of the deals.

Myself, and I believe NFL teams, focus more on the overall number of the selection as opposed to just the round like probably most fans.

Some hear 1st round pick and complain without even considering where that selection is in the actual round which is extremely important.

I've seen this even with draft selections. Someone once stated that a player wasn't worth a 1st round selection but would be fine in the 2nd round when the 2nd round was only a few picks away from the proposed selection. Baffling.
 
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