To help fix this mess the Rams are in what would you guys do????

[SteezyEndo]

Do not allow the Kardashians to attend any of the games. Ban them...And get an OC to specialize in just offensive play calling.

 

[bwdenverram]

I think if it wasn't already painfully obvious the OL makes all the difference in the world. We were holding people to, what, 89 yards a game on the ground and then a real OL came along and absolutely destroyed us. This is what we had the last two years. Can't say how much Roger Saffold is missed. The easiest way is to give Goff time to pass and open up actual holes for Gurley. Unfortunately as much as I like Goff when he's constantly pressured he becomes pretty average. Most QB's are unless you're freaking Jackson who can avoid anything he wants.

This is a painful year to watch but if we had the same line as last year this would be a different discussion completely. Build up the trenches again and we'll be ok.

 

[Memento]

Personally, I think installing Callahan over Kromer is a good idea. I'd get assistants who can help on the offensive side of the ball. And I'd move back to a 4-3 and Wade, while I love the guy, needs to be off the team. His defense has been figured out. Maybe Shula's kid can be the DC? Who knows.

Try to shed contracts for draft picks. Havenstein, Higbee, Cooks, NRC, Hill, Malcolm Brown, etc., can all go. I don't care about dead cap; none of these players have shown me that they belong on the field for this team. I'd personally also trade Robert Woods, as he could net a good pick or two, and we can draft wideouts while Kupp and Reynolds take over veteran roles.

Cut Weddle and Matthews or trade them. Let Fowler, Brockers, and Whitworth go.

Re-sign Littleton, Ramsey, Kupp, and JJ3 to long-term deals. And definitely draft OL, DL, and WR from a deep WR class.

I get that it's a blow-it-up situation, but that's what this team needs. We don't have enough draft picks, we have too many crippling contracts, our offensive line isn't good enough, and aside from Donald, we really lack a presence on the defensive line.

This team is complacent and needs a wake-up call.

 

[bluecoconuts]

so who do u think we will beat to have a winning season? I’m thinking we win 1 against the cards then what?

I think we can beat the cardinals twice, the cowboys, and I think we can split with the Hawks.

 

[thirteen28]

On offense, I don't think what needs to be fixed is any big mystery. Fix the OL and a lot of problems will be solved instantly.

I do think McVay needs to make some scheme adjustments in the offseason. I'd like to see him use less reliance on 11 personnel, and more generally, less reliance on any one personnel grouping. I get the conundrum when you have Kupp, Cooks, and Woods and desire to have your best personnel on the field, but it would appear teams have a better read on what's coming with two years of film on his offense. And sometimes you can get mismatches with the different groupings. Generally speaking, McVay needs to find a way to start forcing defenses to guess again. He was successful at that for most of his first two seasons.

I also think we need a QB coach. I don't want to wish ill on Zac Taylor, but selfishly speaking, I'm hoping the dismal performance by the Bengals this year gets him fired and McVay snaps him up again. And I wouldn't object to bringing in Jay Gruden as well.

On D, I don't know ... it seemed like the team had made strides this season, but last night was the kind of effort that puts everything into doubt. I'd definitely send Weddle's disloyal ass packing. Matthews ... maybe get rid of him too. He is still a good pass rusher, but his lack of lane discipline is a liability against running QBs as we saw last night and previously against Seattle. Brockers is probably a goner ... will miss him, but we can't afford to re-sign him, probably not even at a veteran minimum for his years of service. We have some promising young up-and-coming pass rushers, so I'd let Fowler walk. Littleton is going to be a tough call, because he's a baller but we have to weigh that against the dollars needed to keep him and other needs.

 

[Rmfnlt]

Boy, there seems to be a lot of challenges ahead... I said "seems".

Frankly, I dunno.

They have spent liberally on a few players, who - frankly aren't living up to their contracts.

The one thing I believe is in need of immediate improvement is that Oline.

The Rams entire offense hinges on Goff getting protection. Last year? He'd drop back and I knew he'd find the open receiver cutting across the middle.

Now? He drops back and I cringe... waiting for either the sack or strip and fumble. His pocket awareness is shot. Looks like his confidence is shot. He needs more time.

I don't know what combination of trades would yield what it takes to shore up that line.. but that's what I believe needs to happen first.

Do that (effectively) and I think the rest falls into place.

The defense is fine - notwithstanding that beat down last night (everyone's getting beat down by the Ravens lately)

 

[Jacobarch]

Personally, I think installing Callahan over Kromer is a good idea. I'd get assistants who can help on the offensive side of the ball. And I'd move back to a 4-3 and Wade, while I love the guy, needs to be off the team. His defense has been figured out. Maybe Shula's kid can be the DC? Who knows.

Try to shed contracts for draft picks. Havenstein, Higbee, Cooks, NRC, Hill, Malcolm Brown, etc., can all go. I don't care about dead cap; none of these players have shown me that they belong on the field for this team. I'd personally also trade Robert Woods, as he could net a good pick or two, and we can draft wideouts while Kupp and Reynolds take over veteran roles.

Cut Weddle and Matthews or trade them. Let Fowler, Brockers, and Whitworth go.

Re-sign Littleton, Ramsey, Kupp, and JJ3 to long-term deals. And definitely draft OL, DL, and WR from a deep WR class.

I get that it's a blow-it-up situation, but that's what this team needs. We don't have enough draft picks, we have too many crippling contracts, our offensive line isn't good enough, and aside from Donald, we really lack a presence on the defensive line.

This team is complacent and needs a wake-up call.

agree with Wade, but you can't just not care about dead cap. We are already in a hole having to sign Ramsey because we gave up two first rounders. We can't just give up on players that we signed this year, there's a couple that we can say goodbye to or restructure but you can't just kick guys to the curb on their first year of their bloated contracts. That's not the way it works.

I'm sure we'll see some restructures and some cuts in the offseason, maybe even a trade or two.

 

[Jacobarch]

Boy, there seems to be a lot of challenges ahead... I said "seems".

Frankly, I dunno.

They have spent liberally on a few players, who - frankly aren't living up to their contracts.

The one thing I believe is in need of immediate improvement is that Oline.

The Rams entire offense hinges on Goff getting protection. Last year? He'd drop back and I knew he'd find the open receiver cutting across the middle.

Now? He drops back and I cringe... waiting for either the sack or strip and fumble. His pocket awareness is shot. Looks like his confidence is shot. He needs more time.

I don't know what combination of trades would yield what it takes to shore up that line.. but that's what I believe needs to happen first.

Do that (effectively) and I think the rest falls into place.

The defense is fine - notwithstanding that beat down last night (everyone's getting beat down by the Ravens lately)

Part of that problem is McVays protection schemes. He had Everette blocking Judon 1v1 last night and Everette got blown up, and rightfully so. McVay is getting taught a lesson on what not to do and it's up to him to learn from it.

 

[Memento]

agree with Wade, but you can't just not care about dead cap. We are already in a hole having to sign Ramsey because we gave up two first rounders. We can't just give up on players that we signed this year, there's a couple that we can say goodbye to or restructure but you can't just kick guys to the curb on their first year of their bloated contracts. That's not the way it works.

I'm sure we'll see some restructures and some cuts in the offseason, maybe even a trade or two.

I get it, I get it. I'm just absolutely frustrated. We do need a serious wake-up call, and I'm not sure that this team, as it is, can compete against other teams. I see 7-9 at the most because I don't see us beating Seattle or San Fran. It's honestly one of the most frustrating seasons I've watched because I expected a Super Bowl, and we're not even close to that.

 

[Jacobarch]

I get it, I get it. I'm just absolutely frustrated. We do need a serious wake-up call, and I'm not sure that this team, as it is, can compete against other teams. I see 7-9 at the most because I don't see us beating Seattle or San Fran. It's honestly one of the most frustrating seasons I've watched because I expected a Super Bowl, and we're not even close to that.

Agreed, this whole season has just seemed out of sorts. Lots of injuries and even before the injuries it didn't seem like we were playing all that well either. McVay has to be held accountable, he had all offseason to address the problems that started popping up after the Detroit game.

I also think that some of key players are distracted right now. One I think they expect to get back to the superbowl. Expecting something and working for it are two different ideals and one of them usually leads to trouble. As far as players being distracted, I think Goff, Gurely and Co. started getting a lot of attention mid season last year. Endorsements, movies, tv shows, women etc. Say what you will about it but those things can be a major distraction at the pro level. We've seen it happen to players before. Get a big contract, get lots of endorsements and they are a shell of their former selves. Think about it like this... Most people have a day job that requires most of their mental and physical focus. You start adding other side projects (whatever they may be) and it's going to take away from your day job. We have to remember these pro athletes are human too, they have a life outside of football and that can effect them negatively if they aren't careful and I honestly think it's what we're seeing with Goff and Gurely.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[FrantikRam]

Personally, I think installing Callahan over Kromer is a good idea. I'd get assistants who can help on the offensive side of the ball. And I'd move back to a 4-3 and Wade, while I love the guy, needs to be off the team. His defense has been figured out. Maybe Shula's kid can be the DC? Who knows.

Try to shed contracts for draft picks. Havenstein, Higbee, Cooks, NRC, Hill, Malcolm Brown, etc., can all go. I don't care about dead cap; none of these players have shown me that they belong on the field for this team. I'd personally also trade Robert Woods, as he could net a good pick or two, and we can draft wideouts while Kupp and Reynolds take over veteran roles.

Cut Weddle and Matthews or trade them. Let Fowler, Brockers, and Whitworth go.

Re-sign Littleton, Ramsey, Kupp, and JJ3 to long-term deals. And definitely draft OL, DL, and WR from a deep WR class.

I get that it's a blow-it-up situation, but that's what this team needs. We don't have enough draft picks, we have too many crippling contracts, our offensive line isn't good enough, and aside from Donald, we really lack a presence on the defensive line.

This team is complacent and needs a wake-up call.

What in the world?

You do realize that Hav, Higbee, Cooks, NRC, Hill and Malcolm are all better at their positions than Jared Goff is at his this year, right?

Wade's defense has been figured out? Before last night (and probably still after), this is the best defense he's fielded for the Rams. The defense played LIGHTS out since the Seahawks game ended. They played well against the Niners, Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, and Bears. Their only truly bad games before last night were against the Bucs and Seahawks.

That's 8/11 games of good/great defense. Saying that NRC and Hill haven't shown you anything is.....insane. They have played really well all year.

Hav definitely took a step back, but Higbee is still solid - just doesn't get a ton of touches.

It's ironic because if you truly wanted to "blow it up", just get rid of the two reasons we're actually in this mess: Goff and Gurley.

 

[Memento]

Agreed, this whole season has just seemed out of sorts. Lots of injuries and even before the injuries it didn't seem like we were playing all that well either. McVay has to be held accountable, he had all offseason to address the problems that started popping up after the Detroit game.

I also think that some of key players are distracted right now. One I think they expect to get back to the superbowl. Expecting something and working for it are two different ideals and one of them usually leads to trouble. As far as players being distracted, I think Goff, Gurely and Co. started getting a lot of attention mid season last year. Endorsements, movies, tv shows, women etc. Say what you will about it but those things can be a major distraction at the pro level. We've seen it happen to players before. Get a big contract, get lots of endorsements and they are a shell of their former selves. Think about it like this... Most people have a day job that requires most of their mental and physical focus. You start adding other side projects (whatever they may be) and it's going to take away from your day job. We have to remember these pro athletes are human too, they have a life outside of football and that can effect them negatively if they aren't careful and I honestly think it's what we're seeing with Goff and Gurely.

Just my opinion of course.

Either way, this team needs a massive shakedown. I get that players have lives, but this is their day job. This is something that they need to play for. You and I have/had jobs that required us to be on all the time; how is this different?

What in the world?

You do realize that Hav, Higbee, Cooks, NRC, Hill and Malcolm are all better at their positions than Jared Goff is at his this year, right?

Wade's defense has been figured out? Before last night (and probably still after), this is the best defense he's fielded for the Rams. The defense played LIGHTS out since the Seahawks game ended. They played well against the Niners, Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, and Bears. Their only truly bad games before last night were against the Bucs and Seahawks.

That's 8/11 games of good/great defense. Saying that NRC and Hill haven't shown you anything is.....insane. They have played really well all year.

Hav definitely took a step back, but Higbee is still solid - just doesn't get a ton of touches.

It's ironic because if you truly wanted to "blow it up", just get rid of the two reasons we're actually in this mess: Goff and Gurley.

Jared Goff and Todd Gurley are untradeable at their contracts and even I'm not stupid enough to cut them. In addition, Goff is still 25 and will get better. I get that Gurley isn't himself, but who will take him?

The defense played well against the Whiners and the Panthers? I disagree. and we've basically played some of the worst teams in the league in our good defensive showings. The Ravens game opened my eyes.

I've never liked Hill's complete inconsistency, and NRC has been invisible when it comes to splash plays. Havenstein, as you said, took a step back. Higbee should've never been paid over Everett. He's a great blocker and a mediocre receiver.

 

[FrantikRam]

Either way, this team needs a massive shakedown. I get that players have lives, but this is their day job. This is something that they need to play for. You and I have/had jobs that required us to be on all the time; how is this different?



Jared Goff and Todd Gurley are untradeable at their contracts and even I'm not stupid enough to cut them. In addition, Goff is still 25 and will get better. I get that Gurley isn't himself, but who will take him?

The defense played well against the Whiners and the Panthers? I disagree. and we've basically played some of the worst teams in the league in our good defensive showings. The Ravens game opened my eyes.

I've never liked Hill's complete inconsistency, and NRC has been invisible when it comes to splash plays. Havenstein, as you said, took a step back. Higbee should've never been paid over Everett. He's a great blocker and a mediocre receiver.

Hill has been solid this year no matter how you look at it. Same for NRC. CBs can't cover for that long - even the best ones. These guys are not problems, and Hill will most likely be the 4th CB next year if David Long can beat him out. All CBs are inconsistent though...it's just the position.

For the Panthers, that's splitting hairs - but knowing what we now know about McCaffrey, that was a pretty good defensive performance IMO. Forced turnovers to help us take the lead when the offense was garbage in the first half. Couldn't stop CMC, but nobody really can. But that's fine if you disagree.

The Niner game though, they played really well. 20 points, 331 yards and 4.4 yards per play are well below season averages for the Niners. And 7 of those points came off a turnover to start the 2nd half. They also forced two turnovers in the game. That's a really good defensive performance.

The Falcons offense was humming before they played us. Bengals, Steelers and Bears were bad offensive teams, but we still held them below their season averages.


I think we all assumed Goff would be better this year. And unfortunately, when you pay a QB, they need to be able to cover up for the other issues that will arise from not having the money to pay an elite supporting cast. Paying a QB that needs perfect circumstances is a recipe for mediocrity, or worse.

 

[Riverumbbq]

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[Memento]

Hill has been solid this year no matter how you look at it. Same for NRC. CBs can't cover for that long - even the best ones. These guys are not problems, and Hill will most likely be the 4th CB next year if David Long can beat him out. All CBs are inconsistent though...it's just the position.

For the Panthers, that's splitting hairs - but knowing what we now know about McCaffrey, that was a pretty good defensive performance IMO. Forced turnovers to help us take the lead when the offense was garbage in the first half. Couldn't stop CMC, but nobody really can. But that's fine if you disagree.

The Niner game though, they played really well. 20 points, 331 yards and 4.4 yards per play are well below season averages for the Niners. And 7 of those points came off a turnover to start the 2nd half. They also forced two turnovers in the game. That's a really good defensive performance.

The Falcons offense was humming before they played us. Bengals, Steelers and Bears were bad offensive teams, but we still held them below their season averages.


I think we all assumed Goff would be better this year. And unfortunately, when you pay a QB, they need to be able to cover up for the other issues that will arise from not having the money to pay an elite supporting cast. Paying a QB that needs perfect circumstances is a recipe for mediocrity, or worse.

Hill has been inconsistent all year long. I get that even the best corners can't cover, but he loses his assignment way too often for my liking. That's the kind of inconsistence that I dislike. I'd rather see what David Long can do, as this is likely a lost year. I'm still pissed that we lost Kevin Peterson.

The Panthers was a poor defensive performance. The Niners, I'll give you, but the other teams were awful offensive teams, Falcons aside.

No quarterback can succeed when more than half of their offensive line is missing and the other half is atrocious. It's the line that's the major problem. Blythe - I will admit it - is bad. Whitworth is going downhill. Havenstein has taken a big step back, and Noteboom and Allen - hate them if you want - got hurt. We're currently starting two rookies, a bad center, a mediocre left tackle, and a left guard who was recently traded to the team. Also, we started Jamil fucking Demby for two games, and he's Quinn Ojinaka-bad.

What quarterback can succeed with that? I'm willing to give Goff a chance because while I'd love to see better pocket awareness from him, it's not like he's been in a good situation.

 

[Mojo Ram]

This 2019 Goff release though...

Wtf happened?

 

[bluecoconuts]

They should pick up the OL guy the Pats just cut. Gotta be an upgrade over someone.

There, a plan.

 

[ramfan46]

A real answer at Center. Not a late round boom or bust project. A bonafide stud that can control a big DT without help. Find that and the Rams are back in business.

 

[baconandbread]

Personally I think they should hire an offensive coordinator to give McVay another opinion and have Kromer back to just coaching the o-line. The young guys are improving, but I feel they would be helped by having him focused on teaching them.

 

[FaulkSF]

Another suggestion: Bench Reeder and start Young. Did not see Reeder around the ball making tackles.