There's a certain kind of fan...

[AvengerRam]

If you're one of them, you know who you are.

If you're not, you know who I'm talking about.

There are some people who are fans of themselves first, and the team second.

Let me illustrate.

There are many fans, myself included, who worry about the Rams' decisions to select Tutu Atwell, while passing on the chance to take Creed Humphrey (or Josh Myers), and then to seemingly elevating Brian Allen to the starting lineup at center. It is entirely rational to look at Tutu and see an exciting, but potentially limited player at a "luxury" spot, and then lament seeing Humphrey and Myers (top prospects at a perceived high need position) securing starting jobs in KC and GB. Couple that with Allen's less than stellar history, and it is entirely reasonable to question whether the Rams might have made a mistake.

There are those, however, who don't leave it at that. There are those who will insist that the Rams blew it, even before any of these rookies plays a down in the regular season. Among those fans, there is yet another subset... those who will actually hope that Tutu and Allen fail, and that Humphrey and Myers succeed, so that their prognostication will prove correct. In other words, there are some fans who place "being right" above the teams' best interests.

Don't be that fan.

 

[snackdaddy]

If you have to root for one of your players to fail in order to say I told you so, the game cannot be enjoyable. I remember the Bradford debates. The Goff debates. As long as they were Rams players I was on their side. Defending them. Being called a "Bradford mom or Goff mom". As soon as they were jettisoned, I was no longer on their side. I was on Nick Foles side. Now I'm Matt Stafford's side. But dang, it sure was hard to defend Case Keenum.

 

[Allen2McVay]

There are fans that would prefer to have their opinions prove correct, and their team fail rather than ultimately shown to have been wrong with their opinions but see their team succeed.

Most people like to say 'I told you so'. Some absolutely love it.

I was still a newlywed when I woke-up one Sunday morning in August 1999, and put on ESPN to see how the Rams did the night before. Got the news that Trent Green injured his knee and would miss the season. I was in a terrible mood that morning.

My wife ... not a football fan at that time ... asked about the Rams' back-up. I explained that his name was Warner and he was a nobody who had never done anything; and how when a team loses its starting quarterback it's devastating, and the team rarely has a successful season. I said the "Rams' season was over before it even started".

My wife (god-bless her) suggested that 'maybe Warner will be good' but I dismissed her, and further explained that a back-up-QB that no one had ever heard of, never comes out of nowhere and excels.

To this day, my wife will occasionally pull out the 'remember Kurt Warner' when I am down and negative about something in life.

It's her nice, sweet and loving way of saying ... 'Yeah dumb-ass. You know what the hell you're talking about'

It never bothers me. I just think about how great that season turned-out; and how happy I am to have been such a Dumb-Ass.

I think the Akers' injury was huge.
Outside, Stafford, Donald and (maybe) Ramsey, he was the player the Rams could least afford to lose.

I pray I prove to once again be a Dumb-Ass.

 

[OldSchool]

You always have to let things play out on the actual field in real games.

It’s well known I and others didnt like the Atwell pick. Some went to such extremes to say we’d root against them or they would question if we were really Rams fans. Neither are close to reality.

That’s another type of fan, some of those same fans that stressed to us to trust in McVay and the Atwell puck are now saying they don’t trust Allen at center added to the comedy of the situArion.

 

[Selassie I]

Let's just remember that people can be fans of different things when it comes to following a football team.

I was shocked when I learned how some people LOVE to try and play GM and decide who they think the team should draft. I watch college ball and sometimes have a good read on some players I've watched... but man some folks take it to an extreme. They obviously love it though. I have no interest in taking it that far.

I don't have any interest in playing Fantasy. But obviously most people love to.

I could go on and on about how different people can be when it comes to their Fandom.

The thing is... if someone is really into some other kind of Fandom that I have little or no interest in... my interest in interacting with them on it is the same. I have basically no interset in doing it. I can happily just gloss over it and let them enjoy whatever it is that keeps them engaged. It doesn't bother me.

 

[Faceplant]

We all know who those "I told you so" fans are, because they are relentless.......it's tiresome. I am going to take @Selassie I path and just happily gloss over them from now on....or ignore them.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Meh.
To each their own.

 

[AvengerRam]

Meh.
To each their own.

True for most things. Cannibalism, beastiality and being a 49ers fan being notable exceptions.

 

[dang]

So while it’s true if you don’t like something you can just ignore it the “Me not We” or “It’s my world and you’re in it” mentality is hard to ignore. For me its a line in the sand when crossed that cannot be ignored and needs to be called out.

 

[Memento]

True for most things. Cannibalism, beastiality and being a 49ers fan being notable exceptions.

Don't forget necrophilia, cutting people off in traffic, and being a Seahags fan.

 

[Neil039]

 

[badnews]

Don't forget necrophilia, cutting people off in traffic, and being a Seahags fan.

I'd like to throw in people who openly enjoy working for the TSA... Sickos!

 

[FarNorth]

You always have to let things play out on the actual field in real games.

It’s well known I and others didnt like the Atwell pick. Some went to such extremes to say we’d root against them or they would question if we were really Rams fans. Neither are close to reality.

That’s another type of fan, some of those same fans that stressed to us to trust in McVay and the Atwell puck are now saying they don’t trust Allen at center added to the comedy of the situArion.

McVay has his own very definite vision of the team and the players he wants. Many posters have their own reasonable priorities for picks or signings, but imo we need to respect McVay's vision and see how it plays out.

My view is that Rams are doubled down in win now mode. McVay is looking for the players with the most immediate impact to bring us a championship while AD is still his prime. McVay has an impatient, even extreme view of what he most needs to make this happen right now. Imo, based on his own comments at the end of last season, McVay more than anything wants more explosive plays and scoring. His answer is going for playmakers and speed on offense. Not another center if Allen can be made to stand up.

Getting Stafford was one key piece of that puzzle. Getting DJax and Atwell are others. Getting Harris may prove to be one of the best new pieces. Akers is a crucial loss of a playmaker, but we still have speed and some explosiveness at RB (if their thumbs can stay screwed on straight.)

Debating a center vs Atwell, or why we don't have more depth at RB, is also really a product of having fewer choices with limited high picks and cap space. For example, if we had a first round pick, we probably could have traded down and gotten both a center and Atwell. With more cap space, we could have signed an established lineman.

In any event McVay has made his choices. Rooting against the team, or players or management, is a dismal alternative to being a real fan.

Time to see what we got this year, not what we wish we had.
.

 

[Loyal]

If you're one of them, you know who you are.

If you're not, you know who I'm talking about.

There are some people who are fans of themselves first, and the team second.

Let me illustrate.

There are many fans, myself included, who worry about the Rams' decisions to select Tutu Atwell, while passing on the chance to take Creed Humphrey (or Josh Myers), and then to seemingly elevating Brian Allen to the starting lineup at center. It is entirely rational to look at Tutu and see an exciting, but potentially limited player at a "luxury" spot, and then lament seeing Humphrey and Myers (top prospects at a perceived high need position) securing starting jobs in KC and GB. Couple that with Allen's less than stellar history, and it is entirely reasonable to question whether the Rams might have made a mistake.

There are those, however, who don't leave it at that. There are those who will insist that the Rams blew it, even before any of these rookies plays a down in the regular season. Among those fans, there is yet another subset... those who will actually hope that Tutu and Allen fail, and that Humphrey and Myers succeed, so that their prognostication will prove correct. In other words, there are some fans who place "being right" above the teams' best interests.

Don't be that fan.

And there are those who THINK they know what other's motivations are about their comments, but don't know jack.

For myself, I saw a glaring need that McSnead ignored in the draft, mostly, for the last couple of years. We lost our starting Center and it seemed that we were shifting around marginal to fair players, hoping to make a Picasso with dogshyte. I was told after the draft, that Olinemen take years to develop and could not help our team now, but then Creed Humphreys steps in front of our starter from last year? He's that good to step right in and start for maybe a Super Bowl favorite team in the AFC in his rookie year?

It looks like Brian Allen has worked out in the weight room and has put on some muscle and so hopefully he is better. I hope Tutu Atwell is so freakin' good he makes me forget Creed Humphreys name. I'm not one now, nor have every been, an arm chair GM. But I'm a line guy, Offense and Defense, and our approach has bothered me. We had an answer at Center in the 2nd round, where an AFC Super Bowl contender's staff thought was worth a 2nd round round grade to pick, so it's just not my fu*ked up fan GM perspective.

It's still a little too soon to tell me that stream of piss hitting my leg is rain....Give me a couple of Tutu Atwell, injury free games with more that 100 yards receieving...Let me see Allen stand up to a bull rush or two against Dlinemen with evil intent, and not his own guys playing at 50% in practice. THEN I'll believe it's the rain.
I want to believe it's rain.

 

[Angry Ram]

If you're one of them, you know who you are.

If you're not, you know who I'm talking about.

There are some people who are fans of themselves first, and the team second.

Let me illustrate.

There are many fans, myself included, who worry about the Rams' decisions to select Tutu Atwell, while passing on the chance to take Creed Humphrey (or Josh Myers), and then to seemingly elevating Brian Allen to the starting lineup at center. It is entirely rational to look at Tutu and see an exciting, but potentially limited player at a "luxury" spot, and then lament seeing Humphrey and Myers (top prospects at a perceived high need position) securing starting jobs in KC and GB. Couple that with Allen's less than stellar history, and it is entirely reasonable to question whether the Rams might have made a mistake.

There are those, however, who don't leave it at that. There are those who will insist that the Rams blew it, even before any of these rookies plays a down in the regular season. Among those fans, there is yet another subset... those who will actually hope that Tutu and Allen fail, and that Humphrey and Myers succeed, so that their prognostication will prove correct. In other words, there are some fans who place "being right" above the teams' best interests.

Don't be that fan.

Yup. Absolutely 100% spot on here. Some would rather be right about their moves than acknowledge how it will help the team. If the player is not "their guy" it's the wrong guy.

Throw in those that worry about the cap too much. Totally sucks the joy out of being a fan.

 

[FaulkSF]

@AvengerRam your original post broaches upon censorship. Understandable if you don't want to hear it, and sometimes I feel that way too, but don't discourage and silence people from posting on this website.

I honestly feel like the Rams did blow it and are chasing the Tyreek Hill dragon with the Atwell pick.
Meanwhile they should have addressed a need at center or at least for O-Line depth. I would have liked Kendrick Green or Myers in that position. Maybe I'm wrong, but all of us knew this was a need in the off-season and McVay took a luxury pick instead.

All your other posts are great, keep up the good work!

 

[Kupped]

I just ignore them and don't think too much about them. Seems like being miserable is its own punishment.

 

[wolfdogg]

If you're one of them, you know who you are.

If you're not, you know who I'm talking about.

There are some people who are fans of themselves first, and the team second.

Let me illustrate.

There are many fans, myself included, who worry about the Rams' decisions to select Tutu Atwell, while passing on the chance to take Creed Humphrey (or Josh Myers), and then to seemingly elevating Brian Allen to the starting lineup at center. It is entirely rational to look at Tutu and see an exciting, but potentially limited player at a "luxury" spot, and then lament seeing Humphrey and Myers (top prospects at a perceived high need position) securing starting jobs in KC and GB. Couple that with Allen's less than stellar history, and it is entirely reasonable to question whether the Rams might have made a mistake.

There are those, however, who don't leave it at that. There are those who will insist that the Rams blew it, even before any of these rookies plays a down in the regular season. Among those fans, there is yet another subset... those who will actually hope that Tutu and Allen fail, and that Humphrey and Myers succeed, so that their prognostication will prove correct. In other words, there are some fans who place "being right" above the teams' best interests.

Don't be that fan.

So...I hired Jeff gilooly 2 days ago and sent him a pic of tutu. I'm a little unsure which category this puts me in

 

[AvengerRam]

@AvengerRam your original post broaches upon censorship. Understandable if you don't want to hear it, and sometimes I feel that way too, but don't discourage and silence people from posting on this website.

I honestly feel like the Rams did blow it and are chasing the Tyreek Hill dragon with the Atwell pick.
Meanwhile they should have addressed a need at center or at least for O-Line depth. I would have liked Kendrick Green or Myers in that position. Maybe I'm wrong, but all of us knew this was a need in the off-season and McVay took a luxury pick instead.

All your other posts are great, keep up the good work!

Well, its not really censorship, as I have no power here.

I too would have taken Creed Humphrey or Josh Myers at #57. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a decision. The key here is to accept that which we can't change and hope for the best, rather than hoping for personal validation.

 

[thirteen28]

There are fans that would prefer to have their opinions prove correct, and their team fail rather than ultimately shown to have been wrong with their opinions but see their team succeed.

Most people like to say 'I told you so'. Some absolutely love it.

I was still a newlywed when I woke-up one Sunday morning in August 1999, and put on ESPN to see how the Rams did the night before. Got the news that Trent Green injured his knee and would miss the season. I was in a terrible mood that morning.

My wife ... not a football fan at that time ... asked about the Rams' back-up. I explained that his name was Warner and he was a nobody who had never done anything; and how when a team loses its starting quarterback it's devastating, and the team rarely has a successful season. I said the "Rams' season was over before it even started".

My wife (god-bless her) suggested that 'maybe Warner will be good' but I dismissed her, and further explained that a back-up-QB that no one had ever heard of, never comes out of nowhere and excels.

To this day, my wife will occasionally pull out the 'remember Kurt Warner' when I am down and negative about something in life.

It's her nice, sweet and loving way of saying ... 'Yeah dumb-ass. You know what the hell you're talking about'

It never bothers me. I just think about how great that season turned-out; and how happy I am to have been such a Dumb-Ass.

I think the Akers' injury was huge.
Outside, Stafford, Donald and (maybe) Ramsey, he was the player the Rams could least afford to lose.

I pray I prove to once again be a Dumb-Ass.

Don't feel bad, I felt the same way until I saw the opening game against Baltimore.

Oh, and I initially hated the 2nd round pick of Isaac Bruce.

So, let's tip a glass to Red Foreman who reminds us of what we are:


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