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Chicago Bears rookie wide receiver Kevin White needs to have surgery on a stress fracture in his left shin, general manager Ryan Pace said Saturday.
The first-round draft pick will start the season on the physically unable to perform list, meaning he will be sidelined for at least the first six games. After six games, the Bears have until after their 11th game to activate him or shut him down for the year. Pace said it's possible that White could miss the entire season.
"He'll convert from active PUP to reserve PUP and then that gives us the option to bring him up in the latter part of the season," Pace said. "Guys, honestly, is there a chance that he misses the season? That's a possibility. I want to make sure we do this the right way, not rush him back. Sometimes I feel like you have to protect them from themselves."
The Bears have not set a date yet for White's surgery.
"He's emotional," Pace said of White. "I know he sincerely cares about this organization, about his teammates, about Coach (John) Fox. It's from the bottom of his heart, and that's why, to me -- and I know, this is kind of a weird time to say this -- but man, I'm telling you, that guy, it's confirmed to me the type of person he is, through this process."
White had been limited to pool and elliptical work until Monday, when the team allowed him to lightly run on a side field during practice.
"There was a setback," Fox said Saturday. "He looked pretty hopeful the first day (Monday) running on grass but not so much the second day. He's going to be a heck of a football player. He's a great young man. It's unfortunate it happened in the OTAs. We thought the rest might get it better but unfortunately it didn't. We need to fix it long-term and get him ready to play his NFL career."
White's shin has been bothering him since the final week of organized team activities.
"We were being very cautious," Pace said. "This guy's a big commodity for us. To me, it was kind of black and white. If he's having no pain, let's go, let's build him up slowly. Any type of setback, let's do the right thing here. To me, hey, it's unfortunate, but there's clarity in this is the surgery that he needs to have. It'll be successful."
Pace said the coaching staff noticed White limping toward the end of the offseason program.
"It wasn't a specific play where I said, 'Aha -- there it is,'" Pace said. "It was more like, because obviously you guys were at rookie minicamp and beginning part of OTAs -- explosive, sudden, we're all fired up. Later part of OTAs we all noticed it on the same day: 'Hey, he's limping.' And as we looked into it further, there's a small stress fracture down there. When we found that, it's like sometimes these things heal on their own. A lot of times they do. So that was our hope and that was our plan and unfortunately this is where we're at now."
The Bears hoped the No. 7 pick out of West Virginia could help offset the loss of Brandon Marshall, who was traded to the New York Jets.
Quarterback Jay Cutler spoke recently about how impressed he was with White's skill and determination to get on the field.
Chicago Bears rookie wide receiver Kevin White needs to have surgery on a stress fracture in his left shin, general manager Ryan Pace said Saturday.
The first-round draft pick will start the season on the physically unable to perform list, meaning he will be sidelined for at least the first six games. After six games, the Bears have until after their 11th game to activate him or shut him down for the year. Pace said it's possible that White could miss the entire season.
"He'll convert from active PUP to reserve PUP and then that gives us the option to bring him up in the latter part of the season," Pace said. "Guys, honestly, is there a chance that he misses the season? That's a possibility. I want to make sure we do this the right way, not rush him back. Sometimes I feel like you have to protect them from themselves."
The Bears have not set a date yet for White's surgery.
"He's emotional," Pace said of White. "I know he sincerely cares about this organization, about his teammates, about Coach (John) Fox. It's from the bottom of his heart, and that's why, to me -- and I know, this is kind of a weird time to say this -- but man, I'm telling you, that guy, it's confirmed to me the type of person he is, through this process."
White had been limited to pool and elliptical work until Monday, when the team allowed him to lightly run on a side field during practice.
"There was a setback," Fox said Saturday. "He looked pretty hopeful the first day (Monday) running on grass but not so much the second day. He's going to be a heck of a football player. He's a great young man. It's unfortunate it happened in the OTAs. We thought the rest might get it better but unfortunately it didn't. We need to fix it long-term and get him ready to play his NFL career."
White's shin has been bothering him since the final week of organized team activities.
"We were being very cautious," Pace said. "This guy's a big commodity for us. To me, it was kind of black and white. If he's having no pain, let's go, let's build him up slowly. Any type of setback, let's do the right thing here. To me, hey, it's unfortunate, but there's clarity in this is the surgery that he needs to have. It'll be successful."
Pace said the coaching staff noticed White limping toward the end of the offseason program.
"It wasn't a specific play where I said, 'Aha -- there it is,'" Pace said. "It was more like, because obviously you guys were at rookie minicamp and beginning part of OTAs -- explosive, sudden, we're all fired up. Later part of OTAs we all noticed it on the same day: 'Hey, he's limping.' And as we looked into it further, there's a small stress fracture down there. When we found that, it's like sometimes these things heal on their own. A lot of times they do. So that was our hope and that was our plan and unfortunately this is where we're at now."
The Bears hoped the No. 7 pick out of West Virginia could help offset the loss of Brandon Marshall, who was traded to the New York Jets.
Quarterback Jay Cutler spoke recently about how impressed he was with White's skill and determination to get on the field.
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Logan Paulsen is Washington’s second tight end out for season
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 15, 2015
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For the second time this week, Washington has lost a tight end for the season.
Coach Jay Gruden confirmed that tight end Logan Paulsen will undergo season-ending surgery on his big right toe. Paulsen suffered the injury in practice last week.
Washington previously lost a good pass-catching tight end, Niles Paul, to a season-ending injury. Now the team has lost its best blocking tight end in Paulsen.
Another Washington tight end, Jordan Reed, is currently dealing with a hamstring injury.
Logan Paulsen is Washington’s second tight end out for season
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 15, 2015
For the second time this week, Washington has lost a tight end for the season.
Coach Jay Gruden confirmed that tight end Logan Paulsen will undergo season-ending surgery on his big right toe. Paulsen suffered the injury in practice last week.
Washington previously lost a good pass-catching tight end, Niles Paul, to a season-ending injury. Now the team has lost its best blocking tight end in Paulsen.
Another Washington tight end, Jordan Reed, is currently dealing with a hamstring injury.
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Wow, they are taking a beating. Time to call Chris Cooley lolhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-washingtons-second-tight-end-out-for-season/
Logan Paulsen is Washington’s second tight end out for season
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 15, 2015
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For the second time this week, Washington has lost a tight end for the season.
Coach Jay Gruden confirmed that tight end Logan Paulsen will undergo season-ending surgery on his big right toe. Paulsen suffered the injury in practice last week.
Washington previously lost a good pass-catching tight end, Niles Paul, to a season-ending injury. Now the team has lost its best blocking tight end in Paulsen.
Another Washington tight end, Jordan Reed, is currently dealing with a hamstring injury.
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Vikings starting RT Phil Loadholt suffers torn Achilles.
The Minnesota Vikings suffered a huge loss Saturday night before the first series was even done.
Starting right tackle Phil Loadholt tore his Achilles' tendon early in the Vikings' game against Tampa Bay, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, according to a source informed of the injury. Loadholt was visibly upset as he was carted off to the locker room.
The Vikings showed how much they value Loadholt when they gave him a four-year, $25 million contract in 2013. After starting 89 games in his Vikings career, he suddenly has been plagued by serious injuries. He missed the last five games of last season with a torn pectoral muscle.
The news is bad for the entire Vikings offense, especially Adrian Peterson. Loadholt was a pillar as a run blocker. Rookie fourth-round pick T.J. Clemmings replaced Loadholt on Saturday night, and should get the first crack at replacing him permanently.
Vikings starting RT Phil Loadholt suffers torn Achilles.
The Minnesota Vikings suffered a huge loss Saturday night before the first series was even done.
Starting right tackle Phil Loadholt tore his Achilles' tendon early in the Vikings' game against Tampa Bay, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, according to a source informed of the injury. Loadholt was visibly upset as he was carted off to the locker room.
The Vikings showed how much they value Loadholt when they gave him a four-year, $25 million contract in 2013. After starting 89 games in his Vikings career, he suddenly has been plagued by serious injuries. He missed the last five games of last season with a torn pectoral muscle.
The news is bad for the entire Vikings offense, especially Adrian Peterson. Loadholt was a pillar as a run blocker. Rookie fourth-round pick T.J. Clemmings replaced Loadholt on Saturday night, and should get the first crack at replacing him permanently.
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Rams lose cornerback Gaines for season
LOS ANGELES • The Rams got good news on the injury front coming out of the Oakland game. Linebacker Daren Bates will miss only a few weeks with a knee injury in Friday’s preseason opener against the Raiders.
But cornerback E.J. Gaines is out for the season after having surgery to repair a Lisfranc foot injury suffered the first weekend in camp. The talented cornerback, who made the Pro Football Writers of America all-rookie team last season, was in competition with Trumaine Johnson for a starting corner job and with Lamarcus Joyner for the first-team nickel back position.
“It’s a tough break,” said a team source, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “But the team will roll on. He’ll be 100 percent when he comes back. We’ll keep him busy and keep him occupied during his rehab.”
Gaines was a sixth-round steal a year ago out of the University of Missouri. He stepped into the lineup after Johnson suffered a knee injury in the team’s third preseason game (against Cleveland) and missed the first seven games of the regular season.
Gaines played so well that he continued to start even after Johnson returned to health, even expanding his role to nickel back duties when Joyner suffered a groin injury Nov. 9 against Arizona and sat out five games.
Gaines missed the season finale in Seattle with a concussion but was the only rookie cornerback in the NFL to start the first 15 games of the 2014 season. A sure tackler who held up well in coverage, Gaines finished fourth on the team in tackles with 105 stops, had a team-high 14 pass breakups, and came up with four takeaways on two interceptions and two fumble recoveries.
The Gaines vs. Johnson competition figured to be the top defensive battle of training camp. But early in practice two weeks ago (Aug. 2) at Rams Park, Gaines got stepped on. He walked off under his own power, but with a limp, in what originally was thought to be a knee problem.
But it wasn’t the knee. After extensive testing, including a visit to nationally known foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson, the Lisfranc injury was revealed. The Lisfranc injury refers to the bones or torn ligaments where a cluster of small bones forms an arch on the top of the foot.
At the start of camp, the Rams figured to have good depth at the cornerback position, but obviously that depth gets tested without Gaines. The starting cornerback job opposite Janoris Jenkins now belongs to Johnson, a fourth-year pro who has had a good camp to date.
Johnson came back in excellent shape, staying in St. Louis to train during most of the break between the end of team workouts in June and the start of training camp at the end of July.
“Trumaine is in as good a condition as we’ve seen since he’s been here,” coach Jeff Fisher said at the start of camp.
Like Jenkins, Johnson is scheduled for unrestricted free agency at the end of this season. Johnson shined in Friday’s 18-3 loss to Oakland, saving a touchdown with an end zone interception of a Derek Carr pass. He cut in front of Raiders rookie wide receiver Amari Cooper on the play.
He also broke up a deep pass and was in on a couple of tackles in two series of work.
Without Gaines in the picture, Joyner must now step up as the nickel back. After a so-so rookie season Joyner also had a strong offseason and has had some moments in camp. But against Oakland, he was beaten easily by wideout Andre Holmes for a 3-yard TD reception in the second quarter.
After the three J’s — Jenkins, Johnson and Joyner — Marcus Roberson and Brandon McGee are next up on the depth chart at cornerback, minus Gaines. Roberson, signed as an undrafted rookie in 2014, has flashed good ball skills and coverage abilities during camp, and at the moment would rate as the team’s fourth cornerback.
McGee, a fifth-round pick in 2013 out of Miami, was injured most of last season, appearing in only two games. A foot injury has kept him out of most of training camp this season, and he did not play against Oakland.
As for Bates, he was on crutches in the locker room in Oakland after suffering a knee injury, but tests showed he has “only” a sprained medial collateral ligament.
That’s an injury that usually takes two to four weeks to heal. So Bates, one of the team’s top special teams performers on what has been one of the NFL’s top special teams units the past two seasons, could miss the rest of the preseason.
But he could be ready for the regular season opener Sept. 13 against Seattle. And in the big picture, he did not suffer anterior cruciate ligament damage, which would have meant season-ending surgery.
Also, left guard Rodger Saffold was doing better Saturday after suffering what appears to be a relatively minor shoulder injury on the opening drive against the Raiders. The injury was to his “other” shoulder, not the one that was repaired surgically after the 2014 season.
Saffold will have additional testing and probably needs to strengthen the shoulder before he gets back on the practice field.
LOS ANGELES • The Rams got good news on the injury front coming out of the Oakland game. Linebacker Daren Bates will miss only a few weeks with a knee injury in Friday’s preseason opener against the Raiders.
But cornerback E.J. Gaines is out for the season after having surgery to repair a Lisfranc foot injury suffered the first weekend in camp. The talented cornerback, who made the Pro Football Writers of America all-rookie team last season, was in competition with Trumaine Johnson for a starting corner job and with Lamarcus Joyner for the first-team nickel back position.
“It’s a tough break,” said a team source, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “But the team will roll on. He’ll be 100 percent when he comes back. We’ll keep him busy and keep him occupied during his rehab.”
Gaines was a sixth-round steal a year ago out of the University of Missouri. He stepped into the lineup after Johnson suffered a knee injury in the team’s third preseason game (against Cleveland) and missed the first seven games of the regular season.
Gaines played so well that he continued to start even after Johnson returned to health, even expanding his role to nickel back duties when Joyner suffered a groin injury Nov. 9 against Arizona and sat out five games.
Gaines missed the season finale in Seattle with a concussion but was the only rookie cornerback in the NFL to start the first 15 games of the 2014 season. A sure tackler who held up well in coverage, Gaines finished fourth on the team in tackles with 105 stops, had a team-high 14 pass breakups, and came up with four takeaways on two interceptions and two fumble recoveries.
The Gaines vs. Johnson competition figured to be the top defensive battle of training camp. But early in practice two weeks ago (Aug. 2) at Rams Park, Gaines got stepped on. He walked off under his own power, but with a limp, in what originally was thought to be a knee problem.
But it wasn’t the knee. After extensive testing, including a visit to nationally known foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson, the Lisfranc injury was revealed. The Lisfranc injury refers to the bones or torn ligaments where a cluster of small bones forms an arch on the top of the foot.
At the start of camp, the Rams figured to have good depth at the cornerback position, but obviously that depth gets tested without Gaines. The starting cornerback job opposite Janoris Jenkins now belongs to Johnson, a fourth-year pro who has had a good camp to date.
Johnson came back in excellent shape, staying in St. Louis to train during most of the break between the end of team workouts in June and the start of training camp at the end of July.
“Trumaine is in as good a condition as we’ve seen since he’s been here,” coach Jeff Fisher said at the start of camp.
Like Jenkins, Johnson is scheduled for unrestricted free agency at the end of this season. Johnson shined in Friday’s 18-3 loss to Oakland, saving a touchdown with an end zone interception of a Derek Carr pass. He cut in front of Raiders rookie wide receiver Amari Cooper on the play.
He also broke up a deep pass and was in on a couple of tackles in two series of work.
Without Gaines in the picture, Joyner must now step up as the nickel back. After a so-so rookie season Joyner also had a strong offseason and has had some moments in camp. But against Oakland, he was beaten easily by wideout Andre Holmes for a 3-yard TD reception in the second quarter.
After the three J’s — Jenkins, Johnson and Joyner — Marcus Roberson and Brandon McGee are next up on the depth chart at cornerback, minus Gaines. Roberson, signed as an undrafted rookie in 2014, has flashed good ball skills and coverage abilities during camp, and at the moment would rate as the team’s fourth cornerback.
McGee, a fifth-round pick in 2013 out of Miami, was injured most of last season, appearing in only two games. A foot injury has kept him out of most of training camp this season, and he did not play against Oakland.
As for Bates, he was on crutches in the locker room in Oakland after suffering a knee injury, but tests showed he has “only” a sprained medial collateral ligament.
That’s an injury that usually takes two to four weeks to heal. So Bates, one of the team’s top special teams performers on what has been one of the NFL’s top special teams units the past two seasons, could miss the rest of the preseason.
But he could be ready for the regular season opener Sept. 13 against Seattle. And in the big picture, he did not suffer anterior cruciate ligament damage, which would have meant season-ending surgery.
Also, left guard Rodger Saffold was doing better Saturday after suffering what appears to be a relatively minor shoulder injury on the opening drive against the Raiders. The injury was to his “other” shoulder, not the one that was repaired surgically after the 2014 season.
Saffold will have additional testing and probably needs to strengthen the shoulder before he gets back on the practice field.
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"Saffold will have additional testing and probably needs to strengthen the shoulder before he gets back on the practice field."
They're just now determining he needs to strengthen his shoulder? For any player that's stupid but for a guy with a history of shoulder problems it's insane.
They're just now determining he needs to strengthen his shoulder? For any player that's stupid but for a guy with a history of shoulder problems it's insane.
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Well I'm guessing he needs to strengthen it from where he is now. Not from before it was injured.
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Possibly kf but I'm trying to picture a relatively minor injury that when diagnosing it you say "Well, we need to strengthen this shoulder" and I can't come up with anything. I understand the concept of strengthening surrounding muscles to compensate for or to relieve the pressure on a weak/injured joint/ligament/muscle but that presupposes that there is one. And that it can't be repaired. And that strengthening it wouldn't take a considerable amount of time. And that he should be allowed to play with a weakened/injured joint/muscle inviting a worsening of the condition. And that you need to strengthen a shoulder over and above the normal amount to play guard without an underlying injury. And if so, that they wouldn't know this before hand. Especially with a player who has had multiple problems with his other shoulder.
My head hurts now.
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Man that was a mouthful.
Isn't letting the shoulder heal actually strengthening it? As it gets better it will get stronger? Again they're probably talking about where the shoulder is now.
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I would think that allowing an injured shoulder to heal would not only not strengthen it (even to where it was before the injury), the muscles surrounding the injury would be weaker than they were before the injury. Don't all muscles atrophy to some extent due to lack of use? Strengthening the muscles surrounding or associated with an injury is what rehabbing an injury is all about right? That's not passive, that's active. Now if we're talking about rehabbing the injured area that's a different story. I would think that is only undertaken after the injury is healed though. Kind of hard to find an exercise that will strengthen a muscle while not affecting the adjacent muscle/s.
I'm in the middle of my workout right now. I plan on strengthening my muscles even more later when I take my nap.
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I would think that allowing an injured shoulder to heal would not only not strengthen it (even to where it was before the injury), the muscles surrounding the injury would be weaker than they were before the injury. Don't all muscles atrophy to some extent due to lack of use? Strengthening the muscles surrounding or associated with an injury is what rehabbing an injury is all about right? That's not passive, that's active. Now if we're talking about rehabbing the injured area that's a different story. I would think that is only undertaken after the injury is healed though. Kind of hard to find an exercise that will strengthen a muscle while not affecting the adjacent muscle/s.
I'm in the middle of my workout right now. I plan on strengthening my muscles even more later when I take my nap.
Yes I didn't word it correctly. Rehab is part of the healing process. But I still think they were talking about strengthening the shoulder back to where it was before the injury.
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Nah, I understood what you meant so you worded it perfectly fine. I was just amused at the alternative meaning because I've often dreamed of finding a method of exercise that didn't actually involve exercise. I'd soon be rich and looking
That could be what they're talking about but that wouldn't be an overnight project. The healing time and the weight (or exercise) regime would add another longish period of time. I'd think a month at the very least just for the rehab. Though I still can't imagine what kind of injury that didn't involve a tear in a muscle or ligament and that required some rehab it could be. Doesn't sound like it could be a minor injury to me. It also sounds like it could be something that will nag him and cause him to play at less than full strength all year. Again.
More importantly though, why wasn't a shoulder strengthening regime already part of his routine with his history?
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Apparently the Raider Doctors are better than the Ram Doctors...Seriously after this chronic issue I beginning to question if the Ram have the right physicians in place.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/16/browns-backup-qb-connor-shaw-needs-thumb-surgery/
Browns backup QB Connor Shaw needs thumb surgery
Posted by Zac Jackson on August 16, 2015
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Browns backup quarterback Connor Shaw, who started the team’s 2014 finale, is headed for surgery after sustaining an injury to his right thumb during the team’s preseason opener.
Shaw was an undrafted rookie who spent the first 15 weeks of last season on the practice squad before being promoted to start in Baltimore. The team said he’ll miss an “extended period” of time with this injury.
The Browns brought four quarterbacks to camp, so Shaw’s injury doesn’t force them to make a move. But events of the last week — the Geno Smith situation, for example — have served as a reminder that there just aren’t many, if any, realistic quarterback options still for hire.
Shaw was probably headed to the practice squad again before the injury; the team hasn’t announced (and probably hasn’t decided) how it will handle Shaw’s injury in regards to the 90-man camp roster. Assuming the other quarterbacks stay healthy, Browns coach Mike Pettine has been clear that Josh McCown is the starter and Johnny Manziel is the backup.
Shaw’s injury leaves Thad Lewis as the guy who will get cleanup work in the remaining three preseason games and ultimately leave the Browns with a decision on whether or not to keep a third quarterback on the initial 53-man regular-season roster.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-devastating-loss-for-bills-after-acl-injury/
Jarius Wynn a “devastating loss” for Bills after ACL injury
Posted by Josh Alper on August 16, 2015
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The Bills defensive line lost one of its key veteran reserves in the preseason opener.
Defensive end Jarius Wynn suffered an injury to his ACL after playing 20 snaps in Friday night’s game. The team hasn’t ruled him out for the season, but it certainly sounds like coach Rex Ryan expects things to play out that way.
“Obviously that’s a devastating loss to us and to him,” Ryan said, via ESPN.com.
As with any injury, one player’s loss is another’s potential gain. In this case, it could be IK Enemkpali who benefits from Wynn’s absence. Enemkpali had three tackles in Friday night’s game while playing as a reserve behind starting defensive end Jerry Hughes. Wynn was the most experienced backup, which leaves Enemkpali to compete with Michael Buchanan and undrafted free agents the rest of the summer.
Browns backup QB Connor Shaw needs thumb surgery
Posted by Zac Jackson on August 16, 2015
Browns backup quarterback Connor Shaw, who started the team’s 2014 finale, is headed for surgery after sustaining an injury to his right thumb during the team’s preseason opener.
Shaw was an undrafted rookie who spent the first 15 weeks of last season on the practice squad before being promoted to start in Baltimore. The team said he’ll miss an “extended period” of time with this injury.
The Browns brought four quarterbacks to camp, so Shaw’s injury doesn’t force them to make a move. But events of the last week — the Geno Smith situation, for example — have served as a reminder that there just aren’t many, if any, realistic quarterback options still for hire.
Shaw was probably headed to the practice squad again before the injury; the team hasn’t announced (and probably hasn’t decided) how it will handle Shaw’s injury in regards to the 90-man camp roster. Assuming the other quarterbacks stay healthy, Browns coach Mike Pettine has been clear that Josh McCown is the starter and Johnny Manziel is the backup.
Shaw’s injury leaves Thad Lewis as the guy who will get cleanup work in the remaining three preseason games and ultimately leave the Browns with a decision on whether or not to keep a third quarterback on the initial 53-man regular-season roster.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-devastating-loss-for-bills-after-acl-injury/
Jarius Wynn a “devastating loss” for Bills after ACL injury
Posted by Josh Alper on August 16, 2015
The Bills defensive line lost one of its key veteran reserves in the preseason opener.
Defensive end Jarius Wynn suffered an injury to his ACL after playing 20 snaps in Friday night’s game. The team hasn’t ruled him out for the season, but it certainly sounds like coach Rex Ryan expects things to play out that way.
“Obviously that’s a devastating loss to us and to him,” Ryan said, via ESPN.com.
As with any injury, one player’s loss is another’s potential gain. In this case, it could be IK Enemkpali who benefits from Wynn’s absence. Enemkpali had three tackles in Friday night’s game while playing as a reserve behind starting defensive end Jerry Hughes. Wynn was the most experienced backup, which leaves Enemkpali to compete with Michael Buchanan and undrafted free agents the rest of the summer.
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Healing alone does not strengthen in fact quite the opposite atrophy sets in. When Injured it is usually necessary to strengthen the muscles around the injury ASAP which in turn helps with the recovery. I am not a DR but have had to rehab from several injuries and Surgeries and the above is a constant philosophy for all of my rehabs
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Bills lose backup linebacker to torn ACL; two receivers leave due to heat
Posted by Zac Jackson on August 17, 2015
Bills wide receivers Chris Hogan and Marquise Goodwin left Monday’s practice with the Browns due to heat-related issues, Bills coach Rex Ryan said.
Goodwin collapsed on the sideline at one point, sending trainers scrambling to assist him. Ryan said after practice that he was told Goodwin and Hogan were feeling better and would be available for Tuesday’s Browns-Bills practices, which will be held in the evening and presumably in cooler conditions.
With Sammy Watkins also leaving the practice due to a sore glute, the Bills were left thin at receiver in a practice during which they also lost backup middle linebacker Ty Powell to a torn ACL.
“Terrible news,” Ryan said of Powell.
Rookie running back Karlos Williams woke up Monday morning “in a lot of pain,” Ryan said, and is in a local hospital. What exactly is ailing Williams isn’t yet known.
Bills lose backup linebacker to torn ACL; two receivers leave due to heat
Posted by Zac Jackson on August 17, 2015
Bills wide receivers Chris Hogan and Marquise Goodwin left Monday’s practice with the Browns due to heat-related issues, Bills coach Rex Ryan said.
Goodwin collapsed on the sideline at one point, sending trainers scrambling to assist him. Ryan said after practice that he was told Goodwin and Hogan were feeling better and would be available for Tuesday’s Browns-Bills practices, which will be held in the evening and presumably in cooler conditions.
With Sammy Watkins also leaving the practice due to a sore glute, the Bills were left thin at receiver in a practice during which they also lost backup middle linebacker Ty Powell to a torn ACL.
“Terrible news,” Ryan said of Powell.
Rookie running back Karlos Williams woke up Monday morning “in a lot of pain,” Ryan said, and is in a local hospital. What exactly is ailing Williams isn’t yet known.
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