The Known CHEATERS... Cheatriots & Astros

[den-the-coach]

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[bubbaramfan]

Baseball players involved got no punnishment AT ALL.

They will when the season starts. Players that feel they were cheated when they were at bat will find ways to get their revenge. The commish should have realized this would be coming when he failed to punish players. He made Astros and Sox players fair game.


Astros and Red Sox players may have escaped punishment from the league office, but they will certainly get it from oposing teams and fans. They WILL be punnished

Astros are opening their season at Anahiem Angel Stadium. My nephew and I already have tix for game 2. Our seats are 4 rows behind visitor dugout. We are going to let 'em have it and I got a feeling there will be plenty of Dodger fans there screaming "CHEATERS!" along with us.

i garaurntee hard slides with spikes up, tripping, balls thrown at heads, and bench clearing brawls. Its going to be a burtal season for the Astros and R Sox, and they deserve it.

 

[den-the-coach]

 

[bubbaramfan]

Thx den, for the 'before and after' steroids pics.

 

[Reddog99]

I have atleast 4 friends here in Missouri that are Patriots fans and from experience they firmly believe that their team did nothing wrong. Arguing using logic does no good they simply assume you're a hater. Being a Rams fan just makes it worse. That shitty organization should get what they deserve. I want to see coaches fired, tons of fines, loss of high draft picks for the same amount of years they represented the AFC in the superbowl since SB36 along with being put in cap hell. Their championships should be taken away but if not I want the league to hit them so hard that they have a decade long playoff drought. If all of that happens I will be satisfied.

 

[RamFan503]

Boston - City of

Spoiler: Champions

Cheaters

. And now Houston too.

 

[snackdaddy]

Lol, Astros fans are in total denial or they try to water it down as much as they can. "We deserved it. The Yankees and Dodgers just choked. There's no proof the trash can banging won us the championship. They're all just jealous". "Everyone does it but we're the ones being scapegoated!"

When a player speaks out against them: "F--- that motherf-----. He's got no room to talk! He probably does steroids!"

On Mike Fiers: "That mother effer is the worst kind of rat. I hope we let a bat slip and nail him when he's on the mound!"

Or my personal favorite: "Its not that big a deal. The media scum are making it out to be bigger than it really is. They just want clicks and views so they can be relevant."

And of course: "If it wasn't their pet teams the Yankees and Dodgers they beat, no one would care".

 

[den-the-coach]

 

[Angry Ram]

I feel terrible for the Astros fans who celebrated what they thought was a hard-earned series. My late uncle was amongst them.

Yup, 2017 had an amazing atmosphere that week. Went to the parade, too. Really fun time.

This past year, too. Getting back from 0-2 hole was awesome.

. And now Houston too.

 

[Corbin]

What you guys need to understand is the NFL is listed as a Entertainment business legally, not a Sports entity since JFK gave them that exception in the 60’s. The Fuckery goes way back before the 2001 SB and subsequent cover up. That’s just what woke most of us up to something isn’t right here.

Ive found by research quite a bit of things this off season that has questioned my fandom towards the NFL and my team. Most of which I haven’t been able to dismiss.

Something I thought only quacks said the NFL is like the WWE. Now I’m starting to think there is some slivers to that truth that are pretty insurmountable due to fact checking, not to mention other things that are highly probable.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Or my personal favorite: "Its not that big a deal. The media scum are making it out to be bigger than it really is. They just want clicks and views so they can be relevant."

This was the exact argument the cheats fans used. Plus many other fans for some reason.

Yeah, they made thousands of tapes because it didn't really help them.

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[Merlin]

I do feel like there should be some structure in the league laws that covers cheating. Coaches (who set the tone with a locker room and who are responsible for the on field product) that are party to that should be fired for a first offense, and banned thereafter. This would put a lot of pressure on them to ensure things are clean.

If cheating goes to the owner level, there should be a clause that allows the other owners to force a sale. That's the only type of thing they would fear.

Players it's a bit more complicated. I'm sure one could come up with fair rules to apply to them but is it worthwhile. In the Astros' case (where players are a big part of something going on) is it possible for an NFL team to have players run a scandal like that? I just don't know how feasible that is to the way the NFL is structured but it would be fair to say they should be included with bans of varying degrees.

 

[Q729]

For some reason I'm thinking of Kraft and Belicheat looking on the MLB situation like Boss Hogg and Rosco.

 

[SWAdude]

I feel for the fans, the players who didn't cheat on these two teams and the losing teams and their fans.

This is about Vegas baby. At least hundreds of millions of dollars were in play here.

RAMS certainly should have won that game. What the cheatriots did made the game much different than a field goal.

The pitching point is there on one hand but not on another.

My stupid logic is if it didn't make a big enough difference, why do it then?

Starting pitchers and catchers study batters HEAVILY for a reason. It becomes a game of chess. It is good to know when Kershaw is pitching his wicked breaking ball vs the heat.

 

[dieterbrock]

The players keep the stats, the awards, the titles and not 1 minute of suspension time. There is literally no punishment to the players in MLB. And MLB keeps trying to brush it under the carpet. They havent touched the tip of the iceburg yet, and the rest of MLB knows it. And they're pissed.

"I don't agree with the punishments, the players not getting anything," Trout said. "It was a player-driven thing. It sucks, too, because guys' careers have been affected, a lot of people lost jobs. It was tough. Me going up to the plate knowing what was coming -- it would be pretty fun up there."
- Mike Trout

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I feel for the fans, the players who didn't cheat on these two teams and the losing teams and their fans.

This is about Vegas baby. At least hundreds of millions of dollars were in play here.

RAMS certainly should have won that game. What the cheatriots did made the game much different than a field goal.

The pitching point is there on one hand but not on another.

My stupid logic is if it didn't make a big enough difference, why do it then?

Starting pitchers and catchers study batters HEAVILY for a reason. It becomes a game of chess. It is good to know when Kershaw is pitching his wicked breaking ball vs the heat.

Bringing up Vegas is an interesting point,
My question on that tip is if everything was paid out, so if they reversed things how would that work out? Like some have mentioned with USC losing their title for the Reggie Bush incident - how did things work out with the bookies in that situation?

 

[LesBaker]

Disagree. Taking away trophies punishes the fans which I think is wrong.

In this situation fuck the fans. Cheating like this deserves draconian punishment.

And we don't know everything yet. More will come out.

This is the worst of the worst. People need to be kicked out of MLB.

Something I thought only quacks said the NFL is like the WWE. Now I’m starting to think there is some slivers to that truth that are pretty insurmountable due to fact checking, not to mention other things that are highly probable.

Nah, it's you.

The NFL is nothing like WWE. It's not fixed and the NFL is not controlling outcomes. That's nothing but silly conspiracy.

 

[SWAdude]

In this situation fuck the fans. Cheating like this deserves draconian punishment.

Man does sports tap into dark regions in my heart I did not know existed.

I say letting them keep the trophy is more cruel than taking it away. Taking it away creates a controversy. Letting them keep it will haunt them for the rest of their lives.

Illegitimate wins are forever.

I don't know if I could be a fan of a team that are caught cheating for championship wins. Too huge.

 

[Corbin]

In this situation fuck the fans. Cheating like this deserves draconian punishment.

And we don't know everything yet. More will come out.

This is the worst of the worst. People need to be kicked out of MLB.




Nah, it's you.

The NFL is nothing like WWE. It's not fixed and the NFL is not controlling outcomes. That's nothing but silly conspiracy.

Don’t know if that should be in blue or not but here is a an excerpt of a great post from a Broncos website:



2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.

The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.”

Plenty of FBI investigations and documents compiled corroborate these sentiments.