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Can Jonathan Gannon turn the Cardinals around? Answering seven big questions​

Thirty-six days after firing coach Kliff Kingsbury, the Arizona Cardinals found his replacement Tuesday in former Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon, who's fresh off a Super Bowl loss Sunday.

When Cardinals owner Michael Bidwill set out to find his fourth head coach in the past seven years, he said he would cast a net "far and wide," and he did. Arizona was connected to eight other candidates throughout the process, including the likes of Asshole Face (hired as head coach of the Denver Broncos) and Brian Flores (hired as defensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings).

Arizona was the last team to hire a head coach after taking a break in the process when the Super Bowl was in town. Arizona was down to three finalists in the last few days: Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo, New York Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Gannon. Arizona had focused its attention on Gannon and Anarumo in recent days.

In Gannon, the Cardinals get a 40-year-old defensive mind who was one of the hottest names going into the coaching search. They didn't get in on the Gannon sweepstakes during the first round of interviews, so they had to wait until he was out of the playoffs, which just so happened to be after the Super Bowl in his new home as a head coach.

Now Gannon is charged with turning around a franchise desperate for success after a 4-13 season that followed back-to-back late-season tailspins in 2020 and 2021.

It's a tall task, but the Cardinals must believe Gannon is up for the challenge. Here are some of the biggest questions about Gannon and his new team.

Who is Gannon?

Gannon was the Eagles defensive coordinator the past two seasons, overseeing a group that finished first in sacks (70) and pass defense (171.6 yards per game) during the 2022 regular season, helping the Eagles secure the No. 1 seed in the NFC en route to an appearance in Super Bowl LVII.

Before that, he worked with defensive backs as an assistant for the Indianapolis Colts (2018-20) and Minnesota Vikings (2014-17), where he studied under then-head coach Mike Zimmer. He has cultivated a reputation around the league as a sharp football mind with CEO qualities that should translate well to a head-coaching post. -- Tim McManus

Why was Gannon appealing for the Cardinals?

Arizona needed its next coach to change the culture -- a coach with experience winning who could stand in front of the team, demand respect and coach players hard.

Gannon checks all those boxes.

The X's and O's are the least important part of this hire. Gannon has shown what he can do with talent, although the Cardinals don't have as much as the Eagles. But it's about the leadership Gannon can bring to the locker room. Under Kingsbury, the Cardinals essentially had two head coaches -- Vance Joseph was the head coach of the defense and Kingsbury the offense. Bridging that gap will be vital for Gannon's success.

And Gannon having just gone to a Super Bowl helps too. -- Josh Weinfuss

Did offensive or defensive background matter in the Cardinals' search?

No. Bidwill said he wasn't going to rule out any coaches based on which side of the ball they came from. The Gannon hiring, however, keeps up with a trend of the past four coaches having alternating specialties. Kingsbury was offensive; and before him, Steve Wilks was defensive; and before him, Bruce Arians was offensive.

Bidwill said he wanted to hire someone "with a very good plan and with the right leadership skills."

The big question now will be which assistants Gannon will bring with him on his staff, specifically the offensive coordinator.

With the Cardinals not landing a coach until this late in the offseason, many assistants have found work elsewhere because they didn't want to risk not having a job. When Arizona hired its past two head coaches, the team all but built their staffs for them. It's still yet to be seen whether the Cardinals will do that again.

Who Gannon's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach end up being will be watched closely because of the importance of them building a relationship with the face of the franchise, quarterback Kyler Murray. The increasingly tense relationship between Kingsbury and Murray was at the heart of the Cardinals' problems in 2022. -- Weinfuss

What did Gannon do well in Philadelphia that should encourage Cardinals fans?

He is a top-notch communicator. Edge rusher Haason Reddick is among Gannon's most vocal backers, crediting him with listening to his players and using their input to tailor the scheme to their strengths.

His overarching defensive philosophy is to prevent the big play and generate takeaways -- believing zone coverage is a good way to do so, as it allows defenders to have their eyes on the quarterback. Although that philosophy might be straightforward, Gannon is big on pre-snap disguises to muddle the picture for opposing quarterbacks.

The Philly fan base has mixed feelings about him -- his lack of aggressiveness his first year as DC, in particular, didn't mesh with the city's personality -- and the team's defensive performance in the Super Bowl left a bad taste, but his coaches and players back him up hard.

"This guy is an incredible coordinator. People love to play for this guy," coach Nick Sirianni said in January. -- McManus

What does this hire mean for Murray?

It's too early to get a definitive idea until Gannon hires an offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach -- both of whom will spend the most time with Murray whenever he returns from the ACL tear in his right knee next season.

What will be interesting to watch is how Gannon's relationship with Murray develops.

Not having the head coach be directly involved with the offense or quarterbacks could, in some ways, be better for Murray. It could give him an opportunity to work with those two coaches more often and in a deeper way than if the head coach were an offensive-minded coach who called plays. -- Weinfuss

What are Gannon's biggest priorities in fixing a defense that ranked 31st in points allowed?

He needs to rebuild a pass rush that used to be the foundation of Arizona's defense and find a true lockdown cornerback who can defend every team's WR1. If he can do that, Arizona's defense should make a jump in 2023.

Gannon could use a player like Reddick, the former Cardinals linebacker he coached this season in Philadelphia. Reddick wasn't re-signed by Arizona after the 2020 season and had an All-Pro season in 2022. After the 2021 season, the Cardinals let Chandler Jones walk in free agency, which has left them with a diminished pass rush that struggled to get to the quarterback (36 sacks in 2022, ranked tied for 23rd).

Adding a No. 1 cornerback, in free agency or by re-signing Byron Murphy Jr. -- who's been dealing with a back injury, could also be a game-changer for Gannon's defense.

But the biggest question heading into the early days of Gannon's regime will be what happens with Vance Joseph. The incumbent defensive coordinator is still under contract, and some players from last year's team expressed to Bidwill their desire to have Joseph be the next head coach. -- Weinfuss

Where might the Cardinals focus with the No. 3 pick in the draft?

They should take Alabama edge rusher Will Anderson Jr., the top prospect on my board. There's a great chance they'll be able to select the draft's top defender if quarterbacks are taken with the top two picks. Anderson could be a game-wrecker, and with the recent retirement of J.J. Watt (12.5 sacks) and with Zach Allen (5.5) set to become a free agent, there's a clear need here.

Anderson is a versatile pass-rusher who would solve Arizona's pressure woes and be a consistent disrupter against the run. With 34.5 career sacks during his three seasons with the Crimson Tide, he would give this franchise an instant-impact player.

In Gannon's scheme, Anderson will need to improve on his missed tackles -- he had 10 last season -- but he likely will stick to one position instead of moving all over the defense like in college. Focusing on one spot will help him as a rookie. -- Jordan Reid
 

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I love this hire for many reasons as I'm not sure it will be a great hire for the Cardinals plus the Eagles now have to replace two coordinators. Funny how Gannon could not stop the Chiefs once in the second half, but it earned him a job, whereas the other guy they interviewed Lou Anarumo has done a nice job of stopping the Chiefs and he didn't get the job.

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Good points.

I have heard since last year that Gannon was considered to be a great head coaching candidate all year. So it seems he was highly regarded around the league.
 

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Lmao though because of his defensive style. Lol

Vance should be a solid coach he can count on. I’d say that that must have been discussed ?

Who he hires will be the main question at OC.I’d say the old 9er-Ravens guy would be good in the sense of his history working with a certain type of QB that has been successful. Just maybe a little to old behind the tooth ?

There needs are similar to The Rams.
 

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I love this hire for many reasons as I'm not sure it will be a great hire for the Cardinals plus the Eagles now have to replace two coordinators. Funny how Gannon could not stop the Chiefs once in the second half, but it earned him a job, whereas the other guy they interviewed Lou Anarumo has done a nice job of stopping the Chiefs and he didn't get the job.

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Dan Bickley was saying today that he's hearing people say Gannon has the 'it' factor. Of course, until game-day that and a $10 spot will get you a cup of coffee at your local Starbucks...
 

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If he is a solid leader, which it sounds like he is, that gives him a chance.

The HC doesn't need to be the top notch X and O's guy, but he must be able to get his team aligned to the vision. Sounds like there is belief Gannon has these skills.

Losing, however, tests those skills. How will he do? I guess we will find out.
 

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Dan Bickley was saying today that he's hearing people say Gannon has the 'it' factor. Of course, until game-day that and a $10 spot will get you a cup of coffee at your local Starbucks...
I read that too that new GM Monti Ossenfort had worked with Gannon previously and felt he had the "it" factor for a Head Coach and we shall see.
 

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If he is a solid leader, which it sounds like he is, that gives him a chance.

The HC doesn't need to be the top notch X and O's guy, but he must be able to get his team aligned to the vision. Sounds like there is belief Gannon has these skills.

Losing, however, tests those skills. How will he do? I guess we will find out.
They still have Murray so they are still screwed
 

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They still have Murray so they are still screwed
I would not want Murray, and particularly that contract. But… if he can catch lightning in a bottle he is capable of stringing together wins.

But, I definitely think the odds aren’t great of that happening for 21 games.
 

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I can’t believe I listened to that, but it was a good listen. That guy (Gannon) sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

Who knows, but he sounds genuine and again, seems pretty bright.

I’d be pretty optimistic if I were a Cards fan.
 

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I can’t believe I listened to that, but it was a good listen. That guy (Gannon) sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

Who knows, but he sounds genuine and again, seems pretty bright.

I’d be pretty optimistic if I were a Cards fan.

Then again… maybe he is not so smart. :laugh4:

Jonathan Gannon: Everything will be structured to maximize our QB — and we have an elite one

 

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I can’t believe I listened to that, but it was a good listen. That guy (Gannon) sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

Who knows, but he sounds genuine and again, seems pretty bright.

I’d be pretty optimistic if I were a Cards fan.
"We're doomed, I tell ya. Doomed." ~ Cards Fan
 

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It's obvious that Gannon know zip about Murray. Murray is the problem in AZ and everyone knows it. A QB who can't lead, and is extremely lazy and doesn't even hide it can never be a true franchise talent. Because he refuses to develop his talent his skillset is going to be forever limited to a one read, RPO offense. As an occasional change of pace sure I can see it. But as a base offensive scheme it's stupid in the NFL. An undersized QB won't last, that has been proven to be the case with Murray. Kyler doesn't care about the Cardinals winning or losing as he gets paid no matter what and is immune from trade of release because of the guaranteed money. He plays like he knows this is his last NFL contract and can retire to play video games the rest of his life.

The NFL history is filled with guys like him. Gannon is likely to be gone before Kyler is.
 

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It's obvious that Gannon know zip about Murray. Murray is the problem in AZ and everyone knows it. A QB who can't lead, and is extremely lazy and doesn't even hide it can never be a true franchise talent. Because he refuses to develop his talent his skillset is going to be forever limited to a one read, RPO offense. As an occasional change of pace sure I can see it. But as a base offensive scheme it's stupid in the NFL. An undersized QB won't last, that has been proven to be the case with Murray. Kyler doesn't care about the Cardinals winning or losing as he gets paid no matter what and is immune from trade of release because of the guaranteed money. He plays like he knows this is his last NFL contract and can retire to play video games the rest of his life.

The NFL history is filled with guys like him. Gannon is likely to be gone before Kyler is.
I feel for Gannon - but he took the job knowing what he was in for. It would have been a bold strategy to throw Kyler under the bus in the first press conference; he’s got to at least pretend to support QB1. Come mid-season and it’s fair game.
 

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Cardinals hire Nick Rallis as defensive coordinator​

The Cardinals are hiring Nick Rallis as their defensive coordinator, Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports. Rallis, 29, becomes the youngest coordinator in the league.

Eleven players on the Cardinals’ final 53-player roster were 30 or older.

Cardinals tight end Maxx Williams, who was college teammates with Rallis, quickly reacted to the news on social media, writing, “So pumped to see this!!!”

Rallis and new Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon are close. They coached together for two seasons in Philadelphia, where Rallis served as linebackers coach.

He began his NFL coaching career as a defensive quality control/assistant linebackers coach with the Vikings in 2018. Rallis was with the Vikings in that role for three seasons before heading to Philadelphia.

Rallis is the brother of WWE superstar Riddick Moss, now known as MadCap Moss.

Patriots defensive line coach DeMarcus Covington was among the other candidates for the job.

The Cardinals finished 21st in yards allowed and 31st in points allowed.