That hit on Cooks

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@-X- if it was our guy doing the hitting, I'd be thrilled that they didn't call it because it's clear.

I thought so too, initially. But then I saw how Cooks lowered his head, and that's - I think - where the refs ease up on calling it helmet-to-helmet.

 

[fearsomefour]

Cooks lowered his head, was not defenseless and the guy hit him with his shoulder.
So, not spearing or helmet to helmet or any of the rest of it.
That said, the DB certainly didn't avoid the head. Should have been flagged and may be fined.

 

[fearsomefour]

I thought so too, initially. But then I saw how Cooks lowered his head, and that's - I think - where the refs ease up on calling it helmet-to-helmet.

If there was helmet to helmet it was clearly initiated by Cooks.

 

[RhodyRams]

If there was helmet to helmet it was clearly initiated by Cooks.

same boat I am in

 

[ReekofRams]

It's hard to see from that angle, but the helmet doesn't contact him first. His shoulder and elbow are what first hit Cooks in the head. There might have been a little bit of incidental helmet contact later, but he didn't initially strike with the helmet. It's still an illegal hit imo.

That doesn't matter, if he's aiming his helmet to hit his helmet it's considered helmet to helmet. Even if he's not intentionally aiming his helmet to hit the other person's helmet, but his helmet does not the other person's helmet, it's helmet to helmet. There's no skirting around that rule.

 

[Adi]

That was H2H and I feel like the official brushed it off because of the holding call on the other side of the field.

Horrible call to miss that, nfl will not be happy

 

[hotanez]

was it true that Cooks and Kupp wanted to come back in the game?

 

[1maGoh]

If there was helmet to helmet it was clearly initiated by Cooks.

I thought so too, initially. But then I saw how Cooks lowered his head, and that's - I think - where the refs ease up on calling it helmet-to-helmet.

Curling into a ball is fairly natural instinct when about to get hit. Our front sides and faces are to squishy, sensitive, and crucial to survival for the natural reaction to be working something to gore us.

I believe that it would have had significant helmet to helmet contact if Cooks had not lowered his head, but obviously I can't prove it. Blaming Cooks for attempting to defend his own body (how poor a decision that turned it to be) didn't change that, I believe, it was a foul with the rules as written.

I will acknowledge that we benefited from a similar situation last week where Saffold blocked a guy in the back who had turned around at the last second. You win some, you lose some. Thompson is still an asshole.

 

[Rabid Ram]

It actually wasn't H2H, but I'm not sure how Cooks was no longer a defenseless WR. He was turning up the field and had just started to protect himself when he was hit with a shoulder and forearm shiver right to the head. It was also quite clear that the DB was targeting his head.


I guarantee you if Russell Wilson got hit like that while scrambling, we would have been flagged.

Your wrong there was helmet to helmet contact. I have a screen cap to show it but when I try to upload it says unable due to low memory

 

[I like Rams]

I think position matters here most. If a receiver is running and is going head to head with a defender, i believe if the receiver lowers his head and both are leading with their helmet, fault is on both parties. Bc technically the receiver was also leading with his head. But if the defender is coming from the side, the receiver is no longer leading with his head. The defender was clearly leading with his helmet and speared him like so.

Lowering the head is a natural instinct when colliding with another mass to protect the spine. So it sucks having to be so technical, but telling receivers to never lower their head will more than likely lead to more severe injuries.

 

[ReekofRams]

same boat I am in

Look a little closer and you'll see that the defender is already aiming his helmet to Cooks facemask, which would be even worse for Cooks. So when Cooks lowered his helmet it was to protect himself. Nevertheless, the defender was already aiming his helmet into Cooks helmet. Now when Cooks seen that did you want him just to say, "Here, take your best shot. No, he reacted the way he should've. Now it's time for the league to react they should.

 

[I like Rams]

All you really have to look at is a snap shot of when the defenders shoulder hits cooks. By the time thompsons shoulder hits cooks shoulder, cooks head is already twerked quite a bit bc the defender led with his head.

 

[fearsomefour]

Curling into a ball is fairly natural instinct when about to get hit. Our front sides and faces are to squishy, sensitive, and crucial to survival for the natural reaction to be working something to gore us.

I believe that it would have had significant helmet to helmet contact if Cooks had not lowered his head, but obviously I can't prove it. Blaming Cooks for attempting to defend his own body (how poor a decision that turned it to be) didn't change that, I believe, it was a foul with the rules as written.

I will acknowledge that we benefited from a similar situation last week where Saffold blocked a guy in the back who had turned around at the last second. You win some, you lose some. Thompson is still an icehole.

It's garbage rule because of the way it's written.
Of course a runner is going to lower his head to protect himself. The crown of Cooks helmet was right at the defender. This is a natural movement and illegal accourding to the rule.
Horrible rules and bad enforcement abound.

 

[Ramhusker]

Flag all day in today's NFL. The fix was apparently in today. Our boys just screwed up the plan.

 

[XXXIVwin]

No need to bicker about whether it was H2H or shoulder2H... regardless, Seattle DB was head-hunting, IMHO. Looking to hit the head instead of the body.

IMHO it was 70% shoulder and 30% helmet... the Seattle helmet is IN FRONT OF Cooks helmet, so it is an optical illusion of sorts.

Cooks seems to have a similar “crouch” move whenever he anticipates contact. Frankly, maybe he should be more like Ike Bruce, and perfect that “get to the ground fast” move to prolong his career,

 

[Rambitious1]

It's unbelievable that the league is so hell-bent on protecting players but yet there was no call on the hit on Cooks. It was a clear call I don't understand how they didnt see that.

Isn't a personal foul like that in a enjectable foul spearing? Hope McVey sends a tape to the League of today's game. Terribly reffed

One of the worst officiated games I have seen in a while.

 

[SWAdude]

No matter how you look at this hit, the helmet hit the helmet first and thats where he started to go limp.

The shoulder hit was not as much of an impact.

Making a football move does not excuse the hit.

I respect everyone's opinion. I have looked at this many times and see a player catching a ball and a player aiming to take them out.

Maybe not intentionally but the rule is the rule.

The helmet to helmet has cost us a player who has a history of these injuries and it may very well cost us.

 

[gogoat1]

I think we can all agree that it was a HORRIBLY officiated game. Worst I have seen in a long time.

 

[jrry32]

Your wrong there was helmet to helmet contact. I have a screen cap to show it but when I try to upload it says unable due to low memory

Yeah, if you have a better angle, I'm certainly open to the possibility that I'm wrong. The side angle makes it hard to tell.