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That hit on Cooks
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Cooks has been hanging on to passes over the middle like a champ. There have been several plays where I'm kinda shifting in my seat as he's getting hit, then hoping that he gets up fine. Seems to have the smarts to head to the ground and duck the hit, almost like how Bruce used to do, but I'm still uneasy over the position those guys put themselves in to make that catch.
If the hits below drew flags I don’t see how the hit above wasn’t flagged. You can say it might have been missed but the back judge who I think threw the flag for holding on Kupp and the side judge were in plain sight of the hit. Should have been a penalty IMO.
What needs to be included in the clip is the catch, because what is shown here is looks the same as when a running back gets hit. He lowers his head to protect himself and the hit happens. This would be why I think it wasn't called. I thought there was barely anytime between the catch and the hit and that a penalty should be called, but in this game any chance not to call a penalty on the Hawks and the refs took it. I also don't think you will see any fines for this hit.
according to that article both players are guilty of violating the rule, both lower their helmets before contact. I still think Thompson used his arm and it hit Cooks on the helmet. Cooks will definitely need to start protecting himself better. Only 25 and in a small period of time he's suffered 2 severe concussions.
ReekofRams
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Actually this last one is considered minor for two reasons.
First reason is that within minutes he felt fine with no symptoms. If it was serious he would have had symptoms for at least 24 hours or more.
Second reason is that he was on concussion protocol for only a week. If he would have shown any symptoms on Monday concussion protocol requires that you have to show six days of no symptoms. So if our game against Denver was this last Thursday the Rams would've been without both Cooks and Kupp.
However the fact that Cooks has already had two concussions this early in his career is a bit disconcerting.
But I find the older I get the more I act like I should be on concussion protocol.
The Browns QB was not defenseless.
Cooks want defenseless either, but he was definitely trying to protect himself and not barrel through the defender.
While there was definitely helmet to helmet contact, most of the force of the hit came from the defender running through Cooks' head with his shoulder, as others have pointed out. Maybe that kind of hit shouldn't be a penalty. The problem is that it is a penalty tight now. They even threw a flag as soon as the hit happened, then claimed it was something else (defensive holding I think?).
That just looks like a textbook flaggable hit, looked like they were going to flag it, and then they didn't.
Cooks want defenseless either, but he was definitely trying to protect himself and not barrel through the defender.
While there was definitely helmet to helmet contact, most of the force of the hit came from the defender running through Cooks' head with his shoulder, as others have pointed out. Maybe that kind of hit shouldn't be a penalty. The problem is that it is a penalty tight now. They even threw a flag as soon as the hit happened, then claimed it was something else (defensive holding I think?).
That just looks like a textbook flaggable hit, looked like they were going to flag it, and then they didn't.
ReekofRams
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You and I are seeing two different plays because Thompson led with his helmet this the reason his helmet was first to make contact. The fact that you bring the shoulder at all is laughable, as that came after the hit with his helmet, so that is a non-issue here. and
Plus go back slowly over the play, because if Cooks hadn't lowered his helmet, Thompson would have hit Cooks in his face mask, as that is where Thompson aimed his helmet, and Cooks would've ended with at the very least a more severe concussion, and most likely worse than that.
The NFL rules stated if a player is aiming at someone with there helmet and makes contact that is a penalty. I'm going to go even further. That hit by Thompson was dirty.
The shoulder makes no difference, he was aiming his helmet towards Cooks' facemask, but only hitting Cooks helmet when Cooks lowered his head to protect himself. When he lowered his helmet was Cooks aiming to hurt someone? No! Was Thompson aiming his helmet to hurt someone? Yes! That is the kind of tackling coach Csrrol is noted for that he teaches.
Plus go back slowly over the play, because if Cooks hadn't lowered his helmet, Thompson would have hit Cooks in his face mask, as that is where Thompson aimed his helmet, and Cooks would've ended with at the very least a more severe concussion, and most likely worse than that.
The NFL rules stated if a player is aiming at someone with there helmet and makes contact that is a penalty. I'm going to go even further. That hit by Thompson was dirty.
The shoulder makes no difference, he was aiming his helmet towards Cooks' facemask, but only hitting Cooks helmet when Cooks lowered his head to protect himself. When he lowered his helmet was Cooks aiming to hurt someone? No! Was Thompson aiming his helmet to hurt someone? Yes! That is the kind of tackling coach Csrrol is noted for that he teaches.
Boxers and mma fighters get knocked out cold all the time without concussions or only minor ones
There are three grades of concussion.
- In Grade One, a concussion causes temporary disorientation. The person remains conscious and the symptoms are gone within 15 minutes.
- With a Grade Two concussion, the symptoms are the same as a Grade One concussion, only the symptoms last about a half-hour.
- With a Grade Three concussion, sometimes referred to as a classic concussion, there is a loss of consciousness—no matter how brief.
you'll never convince me that this was not targeting and that fine a should have been levied...
too much video available showing the defensive helmet driving into Cooks helmet. There is probably at least 2 other ways to make that tackle, that are just as effective. Unless by effective, one means knocked out...
too much video available showing the defensive helmet driving into Cooks helmet. There is probably at least 2 other ways to make that tackle, that are just as effective. Unless by effective, one means knocked out...
ReekofRams
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if it was considered a grade 3 concussion the league would not even allow Cooks to play tomorrow. Which means now I'm utterly confused (as usual) because if the league considers it a minor concussion, what standard does the league to by. As a person who faints a lot, which is why I'm currently disabled, but I've had several concussions and only two of them were called brad 3 and I was not knocked out but had symptoms for almost a month one time. But I'm the other hand I've knocked myself out but every time it was considered minor, except the time when I came I found I was temporarily paralysed. So now you understand why I'm confused. Oh well, life goes on.