Stafford Talk

[Jacobarch]

Lol at this thread

 

[Ellard80]

Stafford’s playing hero ball like he did in Detroit. He won lots of praise for it but obviously not too many games. Rams had a perfect storm of events that got them the Super Bowl Championship. That’s what it takes most of the time. Now Stafford’s back to his Detroit state of mind and play. His motto is fuck the play call I’m throwing deep to anyone regardless of which jersey they wear. He got his money and doesn’t give a flying fuck about winning. McVay’s been so damn busy kissing his ass he can’t possibly question his play. Stafford’s going to linger around like a really bad case of the clap until they pay him to leave. Boy wonder will be in the unemployment line within 2 years. Sooner if the Rams had an owner who actually cared about winning. That’s a fact jack!

I can tell you don't actually watch the games....

Stafford has literally zero Ints from throwing deep.

Then your last line about the owner was really special - the owner who has won a championship in 3 different major sports 3 straight years.

Bro thanks for the good laughs.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Analysis: NFL can't protect QBs from freak injuries like noncontact Achilles tears

The NFL has done everything it can to protect quarterbacks short of putting a flag on them. Can’t hit them high. Can’t hit them low. Can’t touch them too late.

apnews.com

Injuries are piling up for quarterbacks across the league.

Matthew Stafford, Tyrod Taylor, Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder couldn’t finish their games Sunday. Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Justin Fields and Ryan Tannehill were among the other starting QBs who didn’t play in Week 8 because of injuries.

My theory on all of the QB hits is that most colleges play their best large athletes on the defensive side of the ball, since DT,DE, and edge require good athletes.

Back when running the ball was the priority in the NFL there were more of the athletic guys playing on Oline. A lot of DTs were space eaters or hard to move heavy guys. So in general the Olinemen are at a physical disadvantage since the league is all about passing.

 

[JBRam77]

Stafford’s playing hero ball like he did in Detroit. He won lots of praise for it but obviously not too many games. Rams had a perfect storm of events that got them the Super Bowl Championship. That’s what it takes most of the time. Now Stafford’s back to his Detroit state of mind and play. His motto is fuck the play call I’m throwing deep to anyone regardless of which jersey they wear. He got his money and doesn’t give a flying fuck about winning. McVay’s been so damn busy kissing his ass he can’t possibly question his play. Stafford’s going to linger around like a really bad case of the clap until they pay him to leave. Boy wonder will be in the unemployment line within 2 years. Sooner if the Rams had an owner who actually cared about winning. That’s a fact jack!

With all due respect-this is a terrible take. Much of the blame goes to the very inconsistent/undersized and injured OLine , below average running backs, stale offensive play calls, and too many moving parts around him. Weeks 1-4 when the OLine and running game was in high gear Stafford looked like a top 5-10 QB. Then he got injured in that Colts game (Hip) and it snowballed from there. We need to solidify the Oline (get bigger and stronger beside Avila, Hav) this offseason. Getting a game breaking running back and legit pass catching tight end threat through draft and free agency is imperative. Then lets see if Stafford can revert to ‘21 Stafford-I think he can. McVay needs to check himself too-he needs to really call a more balanced gameplan. Rollouts, playaction, double tight ends, spread em out and run up the middle, end arounds, mix it up. Its just drop back and throw with occasional runs out of the 11 personnel 95% of the time. Too predictable. Opposing defenses have gotten so good the past couple of years in the NFL.

 

[Tano]

Maybe you shouldn’t tske it out of context and receive as an insult.

I didn't take it out of context because he even admitted it was an implied insult

 

[Allen2McVay]

Yeah screw it, this thread was derailed days ago so

“I’ll repeat myself, at the risk of being crude”

McVay 42-20 with JG as starting QB

21-23 with all others, ie, a losing record

Remember now, no excuses allowed by some of you resident name callers, you can’t have it both ways

QB we shall leave nameless is at the moment 15- 10 same time period, leading another rebuild success story

Must gall the daylights out of some… we’re in for tough times ladies while that other guy is killing it

"Goff Apologist!" says @Loyal ... and just about everyone else.

 

[ottoman89]

I'm starting to wonder if this isn't Matthew Staffords last year. Injuries are starting to mount and he's starting to miss more games than usual.

Sign a stop-gap QB (maybe Wentz is it in a way) and draft a QB in R1 or 2.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Tumak61]

Stafford has not been consistently good since his first year with the Rams, and he was inconsistent that year as well. He's holding the ball too long. He's not the type who can really extend plays very often, he needs to make the read and throw it. Pocket QB's are at a real disadvantage in the modern NFL which favors QB's who can make plays outside the pocket area. How many grounding calls has he got on plays where he and the receiver weren't on the same page? Get outside the pocket and you can do anything with the ball.
Every time he gets hit you wonder if that's his last play of the season. He needs to retire and give the Rams some cap relief.
I think if Wentz gets his opportunity he's going to look very good.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Rams changed the offense for Stafford.

Does Matthew Stafford simply not like play-action passes or is this just McVay?

 

[Giles]

Rams changed the offense for Stafford.

Does Matthew Stafford simply not like play-action passes or is this just McVay?

I don't think Stafford is a fan of being under center which limits what the offense can do. He rather be in the gun and playaction in the gun only works if your qb is a run threat.

 

[Giles]

Maybe you shouldn’t tske it out of context and receive as an insult.

Nothing is out of context. His intent is very clear.

 

[Giles]

I didn't take it out of context because he even admitted it was an implied insult

It's apparently ok to insult the ppl who support the previous qb.

 

[Kupped]

With all due respect-this is a terrible take. Much of the blame goes to the very inconsistent/undersized and injured OLine , below average running backs, stale offensive play calls, and too many moving parts around him. Weeks 1-4 when the OLine and running game was in high gear Stafford looked like a top 5-10 QB. Then he got injured in that Colts game (Hip) and it snowballed from there. We need to solidify the Oline (get bigger and stronger beside Avila, Hav) this offseason. Getting a game breaking running back and legit pass catching tight end threat through draft and free agency is imperative. Then lets see if Stafford can revert to ‘21 Stafford-I think he can. McVay needs to check himself too-he needs to really call a more balanced gameplan. Rollouts, playaction, double tight ends, spread em out and run up the middle, end arounds, mix it up. Its just drop back and throw with occasional runs out of the 11 personnel 95% of the time. Too predictable. Opposing defenses have gotten so good the past couple of years in the NFL.

Good response.
Rams tackles have been bad the last few games.. no Williams.. yeah, it's been lame.
But.. Stafford doesn't care? Lolz

 

[AvengerRam]

I'm starting to wonder if this isn't Matthew Staffords last year. Injuries are starting to mount and he's starting to miss more games than usual.

Sign a stop-gap QB (maybe Wentz is it in a way) and draft a QB in R1 or 2.

I hope I'm wrong.

He's missed one game, and is expected back after the bye.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Rams changed the offense for Stafford.

Does Matthew Stafford simply not like play-action passes or is this just McVay?

I recall Jourdan talking about this and she said Stafford is more comfortable out of the shotgun.

 

[Merlin]

I recall Jourdan talking about this and she said Stafford is more comfortable out of the shotgun.

He definitely seems to favor the gun. This is why I keep saying I'd like to see them scrap most of the under center shit and go full gun with the handoffs to the RB coming from either side. Williams at least is comfortable with that (not all RBs are), not sure about Freeman but I think it would give us a schematic edge in that opponents would have a harder time discerning run looks.

Of course they never listen to fans what do we know. But I still think they have tells or run down/distance tendencies that hurt them. And I haven't crunched percentages or anything like that, however it seems like there's way too many downs where teams successfully guess run.

 

[dieterbrock]

Do the Rams (and Stafford) take more snaps from the shotgun than the rest of the league?
I read recently that 66% of offensive snaps these days are from the gun.

 

[Ellard80]

Do the Rams (and Stafford) take more snaps from the shotgun than the rest of the league?
I read recently that 66% of offensive snaps these days are from the gun.

66% of the Rams or 66% of the league?

 

[dieterbrock]

66% of the Rams or 66% of the league?

League takes 66% of offensive snaps from shotgun
EDIT
Wasnt the article I read, but a Quick google search took me to this:

NFL Teams Moving Out From Under Center, Riding Shotgun

As NFL offenses continue to evolve, teams are riding the shotgun formation, and in big numbers. Rarely anymore do QBs line up under center.

www.the33rdteam.com

 

[Merlin]

So of that 44%-ish the Rams go under center I wonder how many are runs. I would hazard a guess that them moving their handoffs to the gun would probably eliminate a noticeable percentage of the stuffs they endure. Because if you're lining up vs Stafford in the gun on first down you're gonna need to wait for the backfield movement reads and I'd think that's a second's difference vs a hard run fill at the snap.

I could be mistaken re: those stuffs. But it seems to me most have been on conventional handoffs.