Sean McVay showed everyone how to beat a Bill Belichick defense

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However outside of Gilmore the pats defense is not very good. This should be an easy win, but we all know the Rams like to play down to their competition

They are 7th in the NFL in points per game allowed, and have the best defensive coach of all-time at the helm. Have a little respect will ya, saying their defense is not very good is so far from the truth. Not to mention how bad Belichick has owned McVay. We all know what happened in the SB where McVay was completely outclassed and embarrassed. We saw what the lions and Patritia did to us late in 2018, effectively setting the 6-1 front blueprint for the league to follow. And we saw what Brian Flores did this year to McVay's offense. Don't be so naive to think this will be an easy game or one "any team should be able to beat the Pats this year." That is what's laughable.

We should've beaten the 49ers twice this year too...First time we played they had lost Buckner, Bosa, Dee Ford, Solomon Thomas, Sherman. So why didn't we win that game? The talent mismatch was night and day, we should've smashed them. Same way we had more talent than the pats in the 2018 SB, we should've won that game handily too. But some teams/schemes don't match up well against other teams/schemes. And Goff has struggled every time he has faced this defense.

First and foremost we will need to be more physical than them up front, we will need to run the ball well. And secondly, we will need to hit big shots down the field. Belichick will be sitting on all underneath routes and taking them away, and also he wont let our boot play-action game take over, he will have them focused on stopping that. It will be a tough low scoring game I think but one if we want to win Goff will have to play one of his better games of the year because Belichick will force him to.
 

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Well hear me out here. I think we're looking at this all wrong. The Chargers are a really bad team. Like really bad. Their record speaks for itself. Not to mention players are starting to give up on that team. Yeah you're gonna have a bad day against a coach that literally shows no mercy to an inferior opponent.
Also, look at who the Pats have lost to this year. Seahawks, Chiefs, Broncos, blown out by the 9ers, Bills and the Texans. Two of those teams are bad teams and the other two are middle of the road teams. Not to mention almost losing to the Jets. Lets not act like the Pats are the pats of Old anymore. If we lose to the Pats it's because they're in our coaches and players heads. Much like the 9ers are. That's something we cannot help and no amount of talent will change that if your head isn't right.

Lets talk about the Pats defense. While they have played a couple teams with good offenses I would argue that half of those teams have really bad offenses. And they are still able to put up a decent amount of points on them. That's what I look at is points given up in a game. and lets look at their stats, i don't know where you got yours from but here you go.


Defense Ranks
12th14th15th13th
Pts / GmPass YdsYds / RushTO's


As you can see they are a middle of the pack Defense, don't even get me started on their offense. Not to mention if you take out that 45-0 egg the chargers laid last weekend they would be even lower. I stand by my OG statement.

That's not what I see... 5th in the nfl pts allowed.. 12 in overall defense.

So still pretty much a top 10 defense.

2020 NFL Team Total Defense Stats | ESPN
 

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They are 7th in the NFL in points per game allowed, and have the best defensive coach of all-time at the helm. Have a little respect will ya, saying their defense is not very good is so far from the truth. Not to mention how bad Belichick has owned McVay. We all know what happened in the SB where McVay was completely outclassed and embarrassed. We saw what the lions and Patritia did to us late in 2018, effectively setting the 6-1 front blueprint for the league to follow. And we saw what Brian Flores did this year to McVay's offense. Don't be so naive to think this will be an easy game or one "any team should be able to beat the Pats this year." That is what's laughable.

We should've beaten the 49ers twice this year too...First time we played they had lost Buckner, Bosa, Dee Ford, Solomon Thomas, Sherman. So why didn't we win that game? The talent mismatch was night and day, we should've smashed them. Same way we had more talent than the pats in the 2018 SB, we should've won that game handily too. But some teams/schemes don't match up well against other teams/schemes. And Goff has struggled every time he has faced this defense.

First and foremost we will need to be more physical than them up front, we will need to run the ball well. And secondly, we will need to hit big shots down the field. Belichick will be sitting on all underneath routes and taking them away, and also he wont let our boot play-action game take over, he will have them focused on stopping that. It will be a tough low scoring game I think but one if we want to win Goff will have to play one of his better games of the year because Belichick will force him to.

and the brothers are really good... Don't sleep on their Def. well coached
 

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I just hope there are some things in the playbook that McVay has been holding back all year long explicitly for this moment. And I'm hoping some of what he's put on film this season will be used to disguise those things.
 
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Well hear me out here. I think we're looking at this all wrong. The Chargers are a really bad team. Like really bad. Their record speaks for itself. Not to mention players are starting to give up on that team. Yeah you're gonna have a bad day against a coach that literally shows no mercy to an inferior opponent.
Also, look at who the Pats have lost to this year. Seahawks, Chiefs, Broncos, blown out by the 9ers, Bills and the Texans. Two of those teams are bad teams and the other two are middle of the road teams. Not to mention almost losing to the Jets. Lets not act like the Pats are the pats of Old anymore. If we lose to the Pats it's because they're in our coaches and players heads. Much like the 9ers are. That's something we cannot help and no amount of talent will change that if your head isn't right.

Lets talk about the Pats defense. While they have played a couple teams with good offenses I would argue that half of those teams have really bad offenses. And they are still able to put up a decent amount of points on them. That's what I look at is points given up in a game. and lets look at their stats, i don't know where you got yours from but here you go.


Defense Ranks
12th14th15th13th
Pts / GmPass YdsYds / RushTO's


As you can see they are a middle of the pack Defense, don't even get me started on their offense. Not to mention if you take out that 45-0 egg the chargers laid last weekend they would be even lower. I stand by my OG statement.

Honestly hope you're right, but being a Rams fan comes with a fragile psyche :D I mean, I thought we would roll over a Niners team led by Mullens, without Bosa and Kittle. I'll be really happy if the Rams destroy the Pats - I'll even enjoy you saying I told you so!
 

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Last time these 2 met, the Rams held them to 13 points, with Brady at QB, Gronk making huge catch and the Rams D not playing anywhere near this level.
Now they've got little QB production, no running game and their D isnt as good as years past.
If anyone needs to be worried about this game its the Pats
I think the Rams are going to embarrass them on National TV
What this guy said
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Sean McVay showed everyone how to beat a Bill Belichick defense
December 12, 2020 James Dudko

Rams celebrate touchdown vs Patriots

Have the Rams proven Belichick's greatest weakness?

Bill Belichick’s defenses can be beaten, and it’s easier than you think. Sean McVay showed everybody how to do it when his Los Angeles Rams thumped Belichick’s New England Patriots 24-3 on Thursday to begin Week 14.

Truth be told McVay didn’t exactly show the NFL how to beat a Belichick defense. More accurately, he reminded viewers how it’s done.

The key to beating a Belichick defense is a two-tight end offense. It’s the same set the Shanahans have used to give Belichick problems down the years, with both Mike and Kyle getting the better of the hoodie.

Kyle Shanahan’s injury-hit San Francisco 49ers thumped the Pats 33-6 in New England back in Week 7. The Niners amassed 197 yards and four touchdowns on the ground, largely running behind tight ends George Kittle and Ross Dwelley.
He may be a Jr. but he's having a pretty big day.#SFvsNE x #FTTB pic.twitter.com/OnJjkpTrmy
— San Francisco 49ers (@49ers) October 25, 2020
McVay obviously took note of how easily his NFC West rivals dismantled the Belichick blueprint. The Rams gave the Patriots the same heavy dose of two tight ends.

Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett spent the majority of the game on the field together. Higbee played 55 snaps, while Everett clocked 53, according to Pro Football Reference. Those numbers represented 87 percent and 84 percent, respectively, of the Rams’ total offensive snaps on the night.

McVay had the right personnel package to keep Belichick’s defenders on their heels:
The Rams employed 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TE, 2 WR) on 69% of their snaps, the 2nd-highest rate in a game under head coach Sean McVay.
The Rams were more efficient operating out of 12 personnel (5.6 yards/play) compared to their normal 11 personnel (4.3).#NEvsLA | #RamsHouse
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) December 11, 2020
Extra blockers allowed L.A. to dominate the line of scrimmage. New England’s front seven was overwhelmed and unable to prevent rookie running back Cam Akers from hitting his stride.

Akers hit top gear as early as the game’s second play. He ripped off 35 yards running behind blocks from Everett and Higbee:
THE CAM AKERS TAKEOVER STARTS NOWpic.twitter.com/iusbuk2xi8
— PFF (@PFF) December 11, 2020
The play summed up why the Rams’ approached worked so well. Two tight ends work against a Belichick defense because he rarely puts eight men in the box.

Take a look at the Patriots’ pre-snap. They were in a pretty standard 3-4 alignment. Belichick likes to use seven so he can keep two safeties deep and show a Cover 2 shell.

It’s an excellent look for disguising coverages, depending on what the safeties do after the ball is snapped. A two-deep shell also gives the Pats’ cornerbacks the luxury of playing man coverage underneath, knowing there is help over the top.

Belichick’s used this formula for years, ever since his days running Bill Parcells’ defenses for the New York Giants. Those units rarely needed an eighth man in the box because the front seven was so big.

Who needs a box safety with Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall, and Jim Burt along the first line of defense?

Belichick has also made a planet-sized front seven his calling card in New England. But these aren’t the days of Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork. There isn’t even a Malcom Brown or Danny Shelton around to be the big man in the middle.

Dont’a Hightower opting out of the 2020 season because of concerns regarding the Covid-19 pandemic took away another presence in the middle. Hightower is the classic Belichick linebacker, a hulking thumper who takes on guards wrecks a running game.

New England doesn’t have the mass nor talent to boss the trenches anymore. Belichick is still trying though.

Lawrence Guy is a 315-pound D-tackle who can be formidable inside. Middle linebacker Ja’Whaun Bentley brings his 255 pounds to bear in the running game. They are good players, they’re just not Wilfork or Hightower.

Neither Bentley nor Guy were able to make an impact against the Rams because McVay wisely had Akers attack the edges. Remember, the size and strength of a Belichick defense is always in the middle, so the Rams simply ran away from it.

Akers thrived on zone-stretch runs, another staple of the Shanahan playbook.
Cam Akers had a breakout game, setting a season-high for a Rams RB playtime (81%) for the 2nd-consecutive week.
Akers gained +37 rush yards over expected, with most of his production coming outside the tackles (21 carries, 150 yards).#NEvsLA | Powered by @awscloud
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) December 11, 2020
McVay made sure his team won the numbers battle on the outside. Wide receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp frequently stacked to the two-tight end side of the formation.

It meant the Rams often had four-on-2 matchups on the edges. There were obvious lanes for Akers to exploit, but his vision, patience and speed off of a single cut turned many solid runs into big gains.
Cam Akers rushes of 10+ yards:
Weeks 1-13: pic.twitter.com/EK5uixuMD3
— PFF (@PFF) December 11, 2020
By the end of the night, Akers had established a record against a Belichick-coached defense:
Cam Akers finished with 171 rush yards, the most ever by a rookie against the Patriots.
That's the most rush yards by a Rams rookie since Jerome Bettis in 1993 (212 at Saints). pic.twitter.com/opUMfSUOEn
— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) December 11, 2020
The Rams were able to erase some of the pain from their loss to the Patriots in Super Bowl LIII, the night Belichick’s D’ held McVay’s offense to just three points.

New England created six-man lines and took away the threat of Todd Gurley on the ground. The Patriots also blitzed Jared Goff relentlessly.

McVay played into the trap because he stuck with the three-receiver sets he’d used throughout the 2018 season. He didn’t use tight ends as often. Higbee played 35 snaps, Everett 44.

Tight ends have often been mismatches in the passing game against a Belichick defense. He trusts his big linebackers to jam any in-breaking receivers. Those linebackers are bruisers against the run, but they’re no match for an athletic tight end and some double moves.

Goff didn’t complete a pass to either tight end in the Super Bowl but zeroed in on his outside receivers. Stephon Gilmore locked up Brandin Cooks, allowing New England to double Woods.

McVay trusted a cuter gameplan on Thursday. He used the threat of Woods and Kupp to keep coverage deep, while Akers, Higbee, and Everett bullied undermanned fronts.

Belichick wouldn’t leave the box light against teams who don’t put receivers as good as Woods and Kupp on the field. But offenses with the balance of a credible passing attack need only show the threat, load the line with two tight ends and run to daylight to beat a Belichick defense.
https://franchisesports.co.uk/super-bowl-sean-mcvay-nightmare-coaching/
 

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Sean McVay showed everyone how to beat a Bill Belichick defense
December 12, 2020 James Dudko

Rams celebrate touchdown vs Patriots

Have the Rams proven Belichick's greatest weakness?

Bill Belichick’s defenses can be beaten, and it’s easier than you think. Sean McVay showed everybody how to do it when his Los Angeles Rams thumped Belichick’s New England Patriots 24-3 on Thursday to begin Week 14.

Truth be told McVay didn’t exactly show the NFL how to beat a Belichick defense. More accurately, he reminded viewers how it’s done.

The key to beating a Belichick defense is a two-tight end offense. It’s the same set the Shanahans have used to give Belichick problems down the years, with both Mike and Kyle getting the better of the hoodie.

Kyle Shanahan’s injury-hit San Francisco 49ers thumped the Pats 33-6 in New England back in Week 7. The Niners amassed 197 yards and four touchdowns on the ground, largely running behind tight ends George Kittle and Ross Dwelley.

McVay obviously took note of how easily his NFC West rivals dismantled the Belichick blueprint. The Rams gave the Patriots the same heavy dose of two tight ends.

Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett spent the majority of the game on the field together. Higbee played 55 snaps, while Everett clocked 53, according to Pro Football Reference. Those numbers represented 87 percent and 84 percent, respectively, of the Rams’ total offensive snaps on the night.

McVay had the right personnel package to keep Belichick’s defenders on their heels:

Extra blockers allowed L.A. to dominate the line of scrimmage. New England’s front seven was overwhelmed and unable to prevent rookie running back Cam Akers from hitting his stride.

Akers hit top gear as early as the game’s second play. He ripped off 35 yards running behind blocks from Everett and Higbee:

The play summed up why the Rams’ approached worked so well. Two tight ends work against a Belichick defense because he rarely puts eight men in the box.

Take a look at the Patriots’ pre-snap. They were in a pretty standard 3-4 alignment. Belichick likes to use seven so he can keep two safeties deep and show a Cover 2 shell.

It’s an excellent look for disguising coverages, depending on what the safeties do after the ball is snapped. A two-deep shell also gives the Pats’ cornerbacks the luxury of playing man coverage underneath, knowing there is help over the top.

Belichick’s used this formula for years, ever since his days running Bill Parcells’ defenses for the New York Giants. Those units rarely needed an eighth man in the box because the front seven was so big.

Who needs a box safety with Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall, and Jim Burt along the first line of defense?

Belichick has also made a planet-sized front seven his calling card in New England. But these aren’t the days of Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork. There isn’t even a Malcom Brown or Danny Shelton around to be the big man in the middle.

Dont’a Hightower opting out of the 2020 season because of concerns regarding the Covid-19 pandemic took away another presence in the middle. Hightower is the classic Belichick linebacker, a hulking thumper who takes on guards wrecks a running game.

New England doesn’t have the mass nor talent to boss the trenches anymore. Belichick is still trying though.

Lawrence Guy is a 315-pound D-tackle who can be formidable inside. Middle linebacker Ja’Whaun Bentley brings his 255 pounds to bear in the running game. They are good players, they’re just not Wilfork or Hightower.

Neither Bentley nor Guy were able to make an impact against the Rams because McVay wisely had Akers attack the edges. Remember, the size and strength of a Belichick defense is always in the middle, so the Rams simply ran away from it.

Akers thrived on zone-stretch runs, another staple of the Shanahan playbook.

McVay made sure his team won the numbers battle on the outside. Wide receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp frequently stacked to the two-tight end side of the formation.

It meant the Rams often had four-on-2 matchups on the edges. There were obvious lanes for Akers to exploit, but his vision, patience and speed off of a single cut turned many solid runs into big gains.

By the end of the night, Akers had established a record against a Belichick-coached defense:

The Rams were able to erase some of the pain from their loss to the Patriots in Super Bowl LIII, the night Belichick’s D’ held McVay’s offense to just three points.

New England created six-man lines and took away the threat of Todd Gurley on the ground. The Patriots also blitzed Jared Goff relentlessly.

McVay played into the trap because he stuck with the three-receiver sets he’d used throughout the 2018 season. He didn’t use tight ends as often. Higbee played 35 snaps, Everett 44.

Tight ends have often been mismatches in the passing game against a Belichick defense. He trusts his big linebackers to jam any in-breaking receivers. Those linebackers are bruisers against the run, but they’re no match for an athletic tight end and some double moves.

Goff didn’t complete a pass to either tight end in the Super Bowl but zeroed in on his outside receivers. Stephon Gilmore locked up Brandin Cooks, allowing New England to double Woods.

McVay trusted a cuter gameplan on Thursday. He used the threat of Woods and Kupp to keep coverage deep, while Akers, Higbee, and Everett bullied undermanned fronts.

Belichick wouldn’t leave the box light against teams who don’t put receivers as good as Woods and Kupp on the field. But offenses with the balance of a credible passing attack need only show the threat, load the line with two tight ends and run to daylight to beat a Belichick defense.
https://franchisesports.co.uk/super-bowl-sean-mcvay-nightmare-coaching/
Well never know the results but if the Rams had Kupp in the Super Bowl the matchups would have been completely different. More options.