Robert Woods Traded to Titans

[Kupped]

But Jefferson didn't thrive when it mattered, Catching a couple of bombs in week 3 or 4 doesn't count a whole lot when you do absolutely zilch in the 3rd and 4th quarter of the Super Bowl, like how Jefferson performed. As for Atwell, you really can't say anything about him because he's done absolutely nothing in the NFL so far. Meanwhile, Woods has been a stud until his injury, which should be healed and ready to go by mini camp.

Jefferson performed great as a #3. The last two quarters of the Super Bowl he was a primary target and he was playing injured.
Maybe it won't be Atwell.. maybe it will be Powell? Or Skow? or some other vet they bring in to be a #4.
Injuries are always a thing.. A healthy Robinson and Kupp.. along with Jefferson.. Higbee.. Hopkins.. Akers.. Henderson.. and whomever else.. would be devastating, imo.

The part of the equation we're not talking about.. which, of course, matters a lot... is what they can GET for moving Woods. I'm not giving the guy away.

 

[Loyal]

Jefferson performed great as a #3. The last two quarters of the Super Bowl he was a primary target and he was playing injured.
Maybe it won't be Atwell.. maybe it will be Powell? Or Skow? or some other vet they bring in to be a #4.
Injuries are always a thing.. A healthy Robinson and Kupp.. along with Jefferson.. Higbee.. Hopkins.. Akers.. Henderson.. and whomever else.. would be devastating, imo.

The part of the equation we're not talking about.. which, of course, matters a lot... is what they can GET for moving Woods. I'm not giving the guy away.

I'd take Kalil Mack for him, as long as we also got a 6th... ~ Les Snead

 

[MachS]

Meanwhile, Woods has been a stud until his injury, which should be healed and ready to go by mini camp

True Woods has been great as a Ram but how did he look last year with Stafford? Not very good. It got to the point where he had to talk to McVay and it went public that he wants to be more involved. The next game we force fed him 15 targets. Its no coincidence.

My point is his best football came with Goff because he fits that style of QB better. Why didn't he hit the ground running with Stafford? He had all off-season to get chemistry right? Why did OBJ come in and make a huge impact immediately, especially in the red zone with zero off-season and zero QB chemistry. Its because their skill sets are different. Robert is a timing based intermediate WR who thrives with YAC. That is still valuable in this offense but not as much as someone who can consistently win 50/50 balls and come down with contested catches more often than not. No one is saying Woods isnt a great WR. What some of us are thinking is maybe he's not an ideal fit with Stafford which could make him expendable.

 

[Loyal]

True Woods has been great as a Ram but how did he look last year with Stafford? Not very good. It got to the point where he had to talk to McVay and it went public that he wants to be more involved. The next game we force fed him 15 targets. Its no coincidence.

My point is his best football came with Goff because he fits that style of QB better. Why didn't he hit the ground running with Stafford? He had all off-season to get chemistry right? Why did OBJ come in and make a huge impact immediately, especially in the red zone with zero off-season and zero QB chemistry. Its because their skill sets are different. Robert is a timing based intermediate WR who thrives with YAC. That is still valuable in this offense but not as much as someone who can consistently win 50/50 balls and come down with contested catches more often than not. No one is saying Woods isnt a great WR. What some of us are thinking is maybe he's not an ideal fit with Stafford which could make him expendable.

If OBJ hit the ground running when Woods got injured in November, why did we lose during that month? It's because Woods wasn't only catching the ball and scoring TD's, he also wasn't blocking for Kupp and Higbeast in many situations, because he was hurt. OBJ didn't really hit the ground running that well besides a couple of TD's in November. At least in all the aspects that Woods had previously done.

 

[PARAM]

My response:

No, Robert Woods doesn't "seem to be available." Teams from around the league saw the Robinson signing and started calling and asking about Woods. Other than AD, Kupp, Stafford and Ramsey, Les Snead is at least gonna listen, but that's a FAR CRY from a guy being "available". This is irresponsible. The Rams presuming Robinson clears his physical only have 3 healthy WRs in Kupp, Robinson and Van Jefferson. Woods, OBJ, Skowronek, Jacob Harris and Tutu Atwell are ALL rehabbing with Woods being back the soonest and we know McVay isn't remotely interested in not having weapons, so no, Woods is not "available". He may end up being moved, but that's not remotely the Rams plan and anyone who follows the Rams can tell you that Woods is the heart and soul of this team... not AD (although after his leadership in the SB, that may change), not Stafford, not Kupp, not Ramsey... Woods. Woods ultimately assured OBJ that he'd have a home here. Woods took Kupp under his wing. Woods has always been the scrappy guy who will do the dirty work. I get that his is the silly season, but c'mon.

Dead on point. Yeah, ket's trade Robert Woods, sign OBJ and hope he's ready by Dec. 1. And while we're hoping, hope Kupp, Robinson or Jefferson remain healthy until at least Dec. 1st. If we didn't fall into getting OBJ this year our top 3 once Woods was injured would have been Kupp, Jefferson and Skowronek. Anybody think we still would have won the Lombardi? Plus with Kupp, Woods AND Robinson we can cover the loss of Mundt in the run game. Those 3 would allow us to run out of 11 personnel.

 

[HX76]

I’ll Be fucking pissed off if they trade Woods.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Dead on point. Yeah, ket's trade Robert Woods, sign OBJ and hope he's ready by Dec. 1. And while we're hoping, hope Kupp, Robinson or Jefferson remain healthy until at least Dec. 1st. If we didn't fall into getting OBJ this year our top 3 once Woods was injured would have been Kupp, Jefferson and Skowronek. Anybody think we still would have won the Lombardi? Plus with Kupp, Woods AND Robinson we can cover the loss of Mundt in the run game. Those 3 would allow us to run out of 11 personnel.

Are you suggesting if not FOR THE BROWNS, we don’t win the Super Bowl?

 

[Ranma]

View: https://twitter.com/MichaelMoraitis/status/1504803896664989720

 

[MachS]

If OBJ hit the ground running when Woods got injured in November, why did we lose during that month? It's because Woods wasn't only catching the ball and scoring TD's, he also wasn't blocking for Kupp and Higbeast in many situations, because he was hurt. OBJ didn't really hit the ground running that well besides a couple of TD's in November. At least in all the aspects that Woods had previously done.

Dude Woods has been in this offesne for 5 years. Knows the play calls, the concepts, the terminology. What are you talking about? OBJ had to come in and learn the entire offense from scratch with zero chemistry with Stafford. What he did in his half season is much more impressive than what Woods did in his half season, thats my only point. Woods will never be close to the red zone weapon guys like OBJ/Robinson are. Does he add a ton of value elsewhere? Of course he does. I'm just saying it's not ludicrous to entertain conversations about moving Woods when we saw how he played with Stafford this year and he's due $16M.

 

[OldSchool]

Well if you're ready to crown his ass for pedestrian numbers you're right there's nothing to discuss. Oh and great comparison since one has proven himself and one hasn't.

My God nobody is calling him the next triple crown winner. But you seem to want to say the guy is shit. He was better than our #3 WR last year and he's a second year player. Clearly the Vikings should just cut him right now because he's garbage in your eyes. He was 55th in the league in Yards meaning 10 teams didn't have a #2 WR that good. He was 23rd in touchdowns meaning 9 teams didn't have a guy with as many TD's as him. He was .3 ypc behind Kupp. He had a 61% catch rate which is a bit low that puts him outside the top 100 but I'll forgive a 2nd year player for not being above average in one metric. Clearly those numbers show how terrible he is. He'd be a low end #1 on some teams and a good #2 on about half the league.

 

[AZRams]

woods is now our 3rd best receiver and hunter would be our best edge when we are already down talent from last year at the position. The cost is relatively cheap and I'm guessing AD would be happy. Seems like a no brainer. Of course I'de rather trade jefferson but if it takes woods then I think we have to do it

The good orgs move off guys too soon rather than too late. Or when the opportunity to get better is there.

Everybody loves Woods. But would we be better depending the deal? That's the question...

 

[dieterbrock]

Well if you're ready to crown his ass for pedestrian numbers you're right there's nothing to discuss. Oh and great comparison since one has proven himself and one hasn't.

Ok, fair enough.
Show me the list of the #3 WR's who caught 7 td passes last year. And while you're at it, add to it 50 rec and 650 yards. Since those numbers are so "pedestrian" I'm certain you'll be able to give me a list of 15 or so #3 guys who performed better?
I'll wait....

 

[gabriel18]

No way they trade him to GB.

 

[OldSchool]

Ok, fair enough.
Show me the list of the #3 WR's who caught 7 td passes last year. And while you're at it, add to it 50 rec and 650 yards. Since those numbers are so "pedestrian" I'm certain you'll be able to give me a list of 15 or so #3 guys who performed better?
I'll wait....

Pedestrian is a good word.... to describe the QB throwing to him. Best part of Osborn is he's on a rookie contract for a 5th round pick.

 

[MachS]

No way they trade him to GB.

Yea maybe not. But I dont think we should trade him unless its for a legit OLB or CB. Thats the only thing that makes sense to me. Those are our two biggest holes now. No reason to trade Woods just to trade him. The Danielle Hunter deal or something similar make sense if we can pull that off.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

Ok, fair enough.
Show me the list of the #3 WR's who caught 7 td passes last year. And while you're at it, add to it 50 rec and 650 yards. Since those numbers are so "pedestrian" I'm certain you'll be able to give me a list of 15 or so #3 guys who performed better?
I'll wait....

Thielen missed 4 games so that helped his stats so that's why he averaged those amazing 38 receiving yards per game

 

[LouisvilleRam]

My God nobody is calling him the next triple crown winner. But you seem to want to say the guy is shit. He was better than our #3 WR last year and he's a second year player. Clearly the Vikings should just cut him right now because he's garbage in your eyes. He was 55th in the league in Yards meaning 10 teams didn't have a #2 WR that good. He was 23rd in touchdowns meaning 9 teams didn't have a guy with as many TD's as him. He was .3 ypc behind Kupp. He had a 61% catch rate which is a bit low that puts him outside the top 100 but I'll forgive a 2nd year player for not being above average in one metric. Clearly those numbers show how terrible he is. He'd be a low end #1 on some teams and a good #2 on about half the league.

Never said he was sh*t I said he needs to prove himself a little more before I would turn away Woods for him but keep spinning words there chief

 

[PARAM]

Rams with Robert Woods, 7-2
After he went down 5-3
If we don't have OBJ, we were toast. So, realizing that WRs can go down in a blink and all the good teams need 4, wouldn't it be prudent to keep him around?

 

[OldSchool]

Never said he was sh*t I said he needs to prove himself a little more before I would turn away Woods for him but keep spinning words there chief

He's a second year WR drafted in the 5th round. He had more production on a mediocre offense with a mediocre QB and a pretty bad OC/HC combo. And he was better than most teams #2 WR's making a whole lot more money than him. If the Rams needed a #3 WR I'd be more than happy with this kid on the team. Nobody here is saying he needs a big contract he's that good though if he keeps progressing the way he did from year 1 to year 2 you're going to see this guy in 2 years get paid and be a big target in free agency. I think Dieter and I are just confused why it's so hard to say this kid had a good year.

And anybody would take Woods as their number 3 over this kid nobody is saying otherwise. But you're talking about the Vikings here who can't afford the bonus for their pass rusher so he's likely to be cut or traded. And you think they're going to take on Woods salary without trading Thielen? They can't afford Woods without dumping more than just Griffins salary. And if they trade Thielen which is very unlikely now after the reworked deal Osborn still is their number 3 WR and guess what? He's still a damned good #3 WR.

 

[OldSchool]

Rams with Robert Woods, 7-2
After he went down 5-3
If we don't have OBJ, we were toast. So, realizing that WRs can go down in a blink and all the good teams need 4, wouldn't it be prudent to keep him around?

Kind of hard to make that call because Woods going down wasn't the only change to the team. Those 3 losses without Woods in November were from some pretty big mistakes by most of the offense so it's hard to say if he would change those outcomes. But yes depth is important at every position in today's NFL.