Robert Kraft charged with solicitation in sex trafficking ring

[Raptorman]

I've been to Minny many times.

I never saw a Bentley or Lambo.

In SWFL, and SEFL, the maids drive Porche's LOL.

Nobody bats an eye at limos or exotic cars or anything like that.

So I don';t think you see a Bentley every day.

First. I don't live in MN. Never have. But yeah, I'm sure you know the area I live better than I do.

Tell you what. My wife went to Tampa for an interview. Her friends boyfriend asked her to drive one of his cars to the interview. He knew the owner of the company. He had borrowed one of the boyfriends cars and wanted to switch out. My wife drove a Ford GT, (not a Mustang GT, a Ford GT), to the interview. The car she drove back was a DB9). Two years later he invited me to go with him to Bucs game. Had I gone, He would have let me drive one of his Ferrari's to the game.

But yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[coconut]

Quite odd the discussion about cars in S. Fl. It started by someone saying a limo would stand out there. When told a limo wouldn't stand out there the someone then stated that luxury cars were common there.

 

[Raptorman]

I've been to Minny many times.

I never saw a Bentley or Lambo.

In SWFL, and SEFL, the maids drive Porche's LOL.

Nobody bats an eye at limos or exotic cars or anything like that.

So I don';t think you see a Bentley every day.

Ever hear of Peter O'Malley? Several years ago he brought most of the family form CA to Vero Beach for Easter. My wife was the first officer on the flight (Chartered 737) that brought them back to CA. See, we may not have a lot of "famous" people who live here, but we have a lot of very rich people who have homes here. A lot of them second and third homes.

 

[dang]

As I weighed in earlier in this thread - the hounds have been released - so this is the beginning not the end of news regarding Kraft's sexcapades. Let me add to the sludge. Kraft has been dating his current 39 year old "girlfriend" since 2012 who gave birth to a child a year ago that is reportedly not his child.

 

[dieterbrock]

Did someone say Cars??

 

[LesBaker]

Ah, no. On a drive to work I regularly see Bentley's, Porsche's Lambo's (A guy 4 doors down from me had a Green Lambo) you name it. You obviously have no idea about were I live or how much money is in my county.

First. I don't live in MN. Never have. But yeah, I'm sure you know the area I live better than I do.

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Where do you live? You see Bentley's and other upper end cars and exotics? Where are you?

Down here limo's and exotics and such don't even get a second look.

Quite odd the discussion about cars in S. Fl. It started by someone saying a limo would stand out there. When told a limo wouldn't stand out there the someone then stated that luxury cars were common there.

Yes LOL.

 

[Karate61]

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Where do you live? You see Bentley's and other upper end cars and exotics? Where are you?

Down here limo's and exotics and such don't even get a second look.

I'm gonna guess he lives in Jupiter, FL. No???

 

[Selassie I]

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Where do you live? You see Bentley's and other upper end cars and exotics? Where are you?

Down here limo's and exotics and such don't even get a second look.



Yes LOL.

Les...

Look under his avatar... he tells everyone right there that he lives in Sebastian FL. It's on the east coast just south of Melbourne but north of Jupiter by a ways. There's an inlet there that I used to use on a regular basis when we were heading out offshore.

 

[Karate61]

Les...

Look under his avatar... he tells everyone right there that he lives in Sebastian FL. It's on the east coast just south of Melbourne but north of Jupiter by a ways. There's an inlet there that I used to use on a regular basis when we were heading out offshore.

I used to live just up the road from there as a kid in Satellite Beach. Loved that area.

 

[Selassie I]

I used to live just up the road from there as a kid in Satellite Beach. Loved that area.

Good old Brevard County. One of my good friends lives in Melbourne. We're out that way a bunch. There's still some old Florida charm there to this day.

 

[LesBaker]

Les...

Look under his avatar... he tells everyone right there that he lives in Sebastian FL. It's on the east coast just south of Melbourne but north of Jupiter by a ways. There's an inlet there that I used to use on a regular basis when we were heading out offshore.

I assumed he was in MINN, but if he is there he should know that a limo or luxury car doesn't even get noticed down here.

Oh well.

 

[rams1fan]

For the last few years their has been many crackdowns in Florida of "massage parlors". Its been in the papers. And they always have asian names. Driving a limo to one is just plain stupid. It would definitely get the attention of a cop wanting to bust a rich person.

 

[Raptorman]

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Where do you live? You see Bentley's and other upper end cars and exotics? Where are you?

Down here limo's and exotics and such don't even get a second look.



Yes LOL.

Just north of Vero Beach in Indian river county. Vero used to be the home of Dodgers spring training. IRC has a very healthy group of rich people that most have never heard about because the are things likes CEO's and owners of companies up north. We have a few famous names, John Walsh, Arlo Guthrie, Gloria Estefan has a house and hotel in Vero. But mostly it's just rich folks from the northeast coming down in the winter to get away from the snow and cold.

 

[12intheBox]

Are we done talking about swanky cars and zip codes? I want to talk about the rich old man who got a strip mall beej or two.

 

[Akrasian]

Are we done talking about swanky cars and zip codes? I want to talk about the rich old man who got a strip mall beej or two.

Sadly, it wasn't even that. I posted this earlier

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/us/robert-kraft-what-we-know/index.html

On January 19, the cameras show Kraft visited the spa and paid for services in cash at the front desk, and he was then taken to a massage room, undressed and lay on a massage bed, the affidavit said. A female employee can be seen on the video manipulating his genitals and later wiping Kraft's genitals with a towel, according to the affidavit.
Kraft left the facility and got into a white Bentley, and police then conducted a traffic stop on the vehicle and confirmed his ID, the affidavit states.
On January 20, Kraft again went to the spa, the affidavit said. Video showed him laying naked on a bed and a woman manipulating his genitals and then using a towel to wipe near his genitals, the affidavit says. Kraft gave her a $100 bill plus at least one other unidentifiable bill and left the room at 11:13 a.m., according to the document.

That's a video I DO NOT want to see. But apparently, even after being stopped by the police nearby the day before - he went back and paid over $100 (plus more at the front desk) for a freakin' handjob.

How the freak did he become a billionaire, being so stupid?

 

[dang]

Sadly, it wasn't even that. I posted this earlier

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/us/robert-kraft-what-we-know/index.html

On January 19, the cameras show Kraft visited the spa and paid for services in cash at the front desk, and he was then taken to a massage room, undressed and lay on a massage bed, the affidavit said. A female employee can be seen on the video manipulating his genitals and later wiping Kraft's genitals with a towel, according to the affidavit.
Kraft left the facility and got into a white Bentley, and police then conducted a traffic stop on the vehicle and confirmed his ID, the affidavit states.
On January 20, Kraft again went to the spa, the affidavit said. Video showed him laying naked on a bed and a woman manipulating his genitals and then using a towel to wipe near his genitals, the affidavit says. Kraft gave her a $100 bill plus at least one other unidentifiable bill and left the room at 11:13 a.m., according to the document.

That's a video I DO NOT want to see. But apparently, even after being stopped by the police nearby the day before - he went back and paid over $100 (plus more at the front desk) for a freakin' handjob.

How the freak did he become a billionaire, being so stupid?

So Kraft's life is more pathetic than salacious. That's not fun to pick on!!

 

[Akrasian]

So Kraft's life is more pathetic than salacious. That's not fun to pick on!!

If he didn't own the Patriots, it wouldn't be. Since he does, it is TOTALLY fair game.

 

[LesBaker]

A female employee can be seen on the video manipulating his genitals and later wiping Kraft's genitals with a towel,

That's a video I DO NOT want to see.

TMZ going to get their hands on that video.

You know it's going to happen they always get the video.

What I would like to know at this point is how they were allowed to police video cameras inside this business. It's just seems unusual to me.

 

[Raptorman]

TMZ going to get their hands on that video.

You know it's going to happen they always get the video.

What I would like to know at this point is how they were allowed to police video cameras inside this business. It's just seems unusual to me.

Falls under the search warrant rules. They did it here in my county. Have video if more than 200 guys. First an undercover officer went in. During the "massage" he was offered "more" for price. Told them that he didn't have the money but he would be back. That was enough for a warrant.

 

[LesBaker]

Falls under the search warrant rules. They did it here in my county. Have video if more than 200 guys. First an undercover officer went in. During the "massage" he was offered "more" for price. Told them that he didn't have the money but he would be back. That was enough for a warrant.

Wouldn't that mean the workers there would know there were cameras installed?

Here in this area a few years back the local police decided to go after some massage parlors. The story I heard, and it sounds like it's very possible, is that they went online and found review sites for massage parlors and targeted those where reviewers had said there was sex available, how good or bad it was and what the rate was. The officers would go in and after awhile getting a normal massage they made jacking off motions with their hand to see if the ladies would offer sex. It's entrapment but they got away with it I'm sure.

Last year on this coast police working in several areas together managed to make arrests in 16 parlors from Sarasota down to Naples, all owned by the same couple. A Chinese woman and her American husband. They shuffled workers around and the investigation was phasing into whether or not they were involved in human trafficking.

One thing I think is important to say is that the human trafficking aspect is disgusting beyond the pale and those people should be getting the death penalty. But it isn't all like that.

In the case of the place that was in the plaza I used to work in it was strictly a business. The women working there had decent cars and probably lived in a decent place. We figured that at the average cost (we Googled it LOL) and from the look of the traffic they were making an awful lot of money.