Robert Kraft charged with solicitation in sex trafficking ring

[LesBaker]

Although technically speaking, that was a Sprite to wash down the Kahuna burger....here’s the $5 milkshakeView attachment 28548

Man, that movie never gets old

How do I transfer funds I have forgotten haha.

 

[LesBaker]

A freaking billionaire? Seriously? If he didn't, he's THE dumbest billionaire that EVER existed. He was not only in the know but he was part of the dirty underbelly that services his ilk. It's actually bizarre that you of all people would give this POS a pass on this. Sorry Les but these cunts know damn well who they are dealing with. And frankly, they are requesting EXACTLTY what they desire. It's surrealistically funny that someone would think he went there because it was the only place he could get a good massage.

So because he is a billionaire he is supposed to know that the women have been enslaved?

That makes no sense.

I'm not giving him a pass, in fact the opposite if you've read my posts in this thread.

He went there, IMO, because it was a long way from where he lives, it was essentially guaranteed that the women (who didn't really even speak english) would know who he was. And this particular place may have served some unusual kink he had.

The teams are only worth that much as long as they are part of the TV sharing package. Take that away, and you have very little.

Several owners own the stadium the team plays in. That has value, and would complicate kicking a team out of the NFL.

I’d agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that he’s a billionaire. I don’t think you can use stupid as an excuse here. People with that kind of wealth have people vetting virtually everything they do. If he desired anonymity, he could easily have it. Having his limo parked outside is not exactly a good way to get it.

IMO it has nothing to do with the money he has. A few of the locals went there often too. Including IIRC the guy in charge of the Boys and Girls Clubs in the area.

They were going there, again IMO, for what that particular place offered. There are massage parlors all over this area. TONS of them. In fact when I moved here I remarked to friends back home that there were so many restaurants, massage parlors and Walgreens/CVS stores it was amazing. Like on every corner.

The guys who were going there could have gone to any of a number of places, gotten some variety and had sex with plenty of women. Why would they go to the same place? And in Kraft's case travel over 1,000 miles on his private plane which would cost 2-3 grand.

IMO he did this because he felt safe and/or they provided something he wanted that was not just a blowjob or whatever.

 

[Kevin]

IMO that worst thing that could happen to Kraft is that the other owners force him to sell the team and he gets a STD.

 

[coconut]

I’d agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that he’s a billionaire. I don’t think you can use stupid as an excuse here. People with that kind of wealth have people vetting virtually everything they do. If he desired anonymity, he could easily have it. Having his limo parked outside is not exactly a good way to get it.

OK lets say you're the billionaire, and in this case the celebrity billionaire. Who are you going to get to do the vetting? And the vetting you assert was to find him a place that does practice human trafficking for sex slavery? With any vetting there's always a trail leading back to you. As for the anonymity it was likely he wanted to be serviced by someone who didn't recognize him. BTW there are lots of limos in S. FL.

And why do you think a billionaire can't be stupid? The richest married guy in the world was just outed for sending pics of his junk to his married girlfriend. Can't imagine how much $ that will cost him in divorce court.

 

[coconut]

IMO he did this because he felt safe and/or they provided something he wanted that was not just a blowjob or whatever.

Good point that there might be a certain fetish involved with that particular place. You seem very knowledgeable about this stuff.

 

[LesBaker]

Good point that there might be a certain fetish involved with that particular place. You seem very knowledgeable about this stuff.

Haha.

Well like I said when this broke the race car scandal from years back came to mind pretty quickly.

That's sort of what started me thinking along those lines.

The lead detective was asked if Kraft was a regular there and he replied "I would say, going through the evidence, yes."

Why would a guy go 1,000 miles for sex on a regular basis?

Something makes him, or made him, go there. Based on the pics of the women it wasn't their looks, plus he has an attractive woman in his life.

So I just asked myself "well why is he flying down there?" and the logical reasons were safety and a very strange fetish.

 

[Akrasian]

And why do you think a billionaire can't be stupid? The richest married guy in the world was just outed for sending pics of his junk to his married girlfriend. Can't imagine how much $ that will cost him in divorce court.

Zero. They were married well before Amazon was founded. She is going to get half anyway.

 

[Akrasian]

Haha.

Well like I said when this broke the race car scandal from years back came to mind pretty quickly.

That's sort of what started me thinking along those lines.

The lead detective was asked if Kraft was a regular there and he replied "I would say, going through the evidence, yes."

Why would a guy go 1,000 miles for sex on a regular basis?

Something makes him, or made him, go there. Based on the pics of the women it wasn't their looks, plus he has an attractive woman in his life.

So I just asked myself "well why is he flying down there?" and the logical reasons were safety and a very strange fetish.

I assume he goes down to that area either for business reasons, or he has a resort membership down there, something like that. It's common for rich people from the NE to have a second home down there - in fact, since Florida doesn't have income tax, it's common for rich people to spend half the year plus a day down there so their legal residence is in a no income tax state. Pays for the home easily. When I was working with Google, it was common for luxury condos and housing builders in Florida to do most of their advertising up north for that reason.

 

[Ram65]

Listening to the radio this morning and the thoughts were that at worst Kraft would have to give the team to his son and stay away from the organization. It was said he is involved with staff and players regularly. He has to be booked, printed and mug shot but, can leave and doesn't have to appear in court. Misdemeanor offense with sex intervention program and community service. Of course that if nothing else comes out of the investigation.

 

[dieterbrock]

Listening to the radio this morning and the thoughts were that he at worst Kraft would have to give the team to his son and stay away from the organization

For how long?

 

[Ram65]

For how long?

Forever!

 

[dieterbrock]

Forever!

That's just crazy talk.
I think the 6 games that Irsay got is a stretch, forever? Good grief

 

[Ram65]

That's just crazy talk.
I think the 6 games that Irsay got is a stretch, forever? Good grief

I assumed it was lifetime but, maybe it was a year. That is the worse case scenario. It was one ESPN reporter following the story. It will probably take some time before we find out what happens.

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1100113914589859840

 

[LesBaker]

I assume he goes down to that area either for business reasons, or he has a resort membership down there, something like that. It's common for rich people from the NE to have a second home down there - in fact, since Florida doesn't have income tax, it's common for rich people to spend half the year plus a day down there so their legal residence is in a no income tax state. Pays for the home easily. When I was working with Google, it was common for luxury condos and housing builders in Florida to do most of their advertising up north for that reason.

It's not "no income tax". There is no state tax on income.

Federal tax still applies. As do other taxes.

Does he have a home down here?

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1100113914589859840

Well, that may have been a stressful day. Haha.

So hit up "the place" then have the pilot get the plane to KC before game time.

The limo driver probably didn't know who he was picking up or where he was going until he made the pickup. The pilot just sits on the tarmac until Kraft comes back a couple of hours later.

Yeah, this is not some usual/normal rub and tug. This makes me think even more so that something really out of the ordinary is what he went to this particular place to get. He has some urge that he is feeding. It might just be anonymity but I think it's more than that, a lot more.

On game day you don't take the jet from NE to SEFL early in the morning of the AFC title game, then KCMO to watch the game unless you have something nagging you. And I don't mean a sore back. It's a sort of addiction/fetish.

When this video, or a description of what is on it, comes out it's going to be destructive to that little fucking troll.

And fuck Kraft right up his ass anyway.

 

[Karate61]

IMO he went there knowing that the women wouldn't know who he was, and so it was "safe" for him to go and indulge whatever fetish or sexual activity he wanted.

Any billionaire that assumes that is a complete idiot. If nothing else, you have a few in your inner circle that make your stupid not show through. This was crap house stupid and there is no WAY he didn't know - nor that they didn't. He thinks he's freaking invincible as he has gotten away with so much crap in the highest profile industry in this WORLD.

I don't think that theory by Les is all that farfetched. Who in the heck would be on the lookout for a billionaire at that shithole massage place. What better place to hide than a place where you'd never ever expect to be found. What other reason would Kraft go to this place, since he could afford the highest price hooker in the world? So, just throwing this out there to consider.

 

[Akrasian]

It's not "no income tax". There is no state tax on income.

Federal tax still applies. As do other taxes.

Does he have a home down here?

Yes, obviously I was referring to the state Income Tax, which is nonexistent in Florida. Uncle Sam will get you, even if you live abroad.

And yes, Kraft has a mansion in Palm Beach, as well as Cape Cod. State income tax in Massachusetts was 5.1% last year, vs zero in Florida. The weather is nicer in January, too.

 

[Akrasian]

I don't think that theory by Les is all that farfetched. Who in the heck would be on the lookout for a billionaire at that shithole massage place. What better place to hide than a place where you'd never ever expect to be found. What other reason would Kraft go to this place, since he could afford the highest price hooker in the world? So, just throwing this out there to consider.

I think for most billionaires the chance of being recognized in an out of the way place like a strip mall is small. Most billionaires haven't been shown multiple times hoisting the trophy at the most popular tv event in the country though. While the "therapists" might not recognize him, I would expect hidden cameras throughout the place, and the criminals behind the scene would have a chance to recognize him. I'm not famous or prominent so it wouldn't apply to me regardless, but if I were running such a place as a massage parlor I would definitely have video of the customers - for protection of the women, and for the ability to apply pressure to prominent people if a crackdown starts.

 

[Raptorman]

I think for most billionaires the chance of being recognized in an out of the way place like a strip mall is small. Most billionaires haven't been shown multiple times hoisting the trophy at the most popular tv event in the country though. While the "therapists" might not recognize him, I would expect hidden cameras throughout the place, and the criminals behind the scene would have a chance to recognize him. I'm not famous or prominent so it wouldn't apply to me regardless, but if I were running such a place as a massage parlor I would definitely have video of the customers - for protection of the women, and for the ability to apply pressure to prominent people if a crackdown starts.

If you show up in a strip mall in a limo, you are going to be noticed. It doesn't matter who you are.

 

[Akrasian]

If you show up in a strip mall in a limo, you are going to be noticed. It doesn't matter who you are.

Sometimes there are other stores that even rich people will go to in a strip mall. Don't know that particular area, but there are specialty stores at times, etc.