Refs cost us this year. Pisses me off as we now have to win 4 more.

[GoodBadUgly]

I don't know how anyone can honestly blame anyone but the Rams for the Pittsburgh loss.

I do. We watched the game.

You’re problem is you’re looking at all the penalties as if that is relevant. Refs get obvious encroachment and false start penalties right 99% of the time. You have to look at 50-50 calls, which 12 out of 12 went against the Rams.

Just not possible without having head in the sand. Unless you’re OK with 4096 to 1 odds?

If so, you’re a lost cause.

 

[Ellard80]

This is silliness.

How so? If they call that like every other time ive seen it called the rest of the year - we win the game.

 

[Ellard80]

I do. We watched the game.

You’re problem is you’re looking at all the penalties as if that is relevant. Refs get obvious encroachment and false start penalties right 99% of the time. You have to look at 50-50 calls, which 12 out of 12 went against the Rams.

Just not possible without having head in the sand. Unless you’re OK with 4096 to 1 odds?

If so, you’re a lost cause.

Some of these people are living in an incredibly false and bizaare reality where they think officiating doesn't have an impact on who wins and loses a game.

 

[fearsomefour]

How so? If they call that like every other time ive seen it called the rest of the year - we win the game.

The team has been subpar most of the year, on offense anyway.
That game the O scored 3 points. They rarely could maintain a possession and turned the ball over numerous times. It was a bad performance all game long.
The Rams had 60 minutes to put something together on offense and never did.
They lost because they played like crap.
Same with the Tampa, Ravens and Whiners game. Although at this point Baltimore and the Whiners are superior teams.
The Seattle game they played pretty well but kept getting in their own way.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

How so? If they call that like every other time ive seen it called the rest of the year - we win the game.

The team has been subpar most of the year, on offense anyway.
That game the O scored 3 points...

OK, you're completely missing the point.

If I told you the reason your car isn't parked in the driveway is that a thief stole it last night and I have video evidence, would you counter with "Yeah, but the only reason I have to park outside is that my wife won't get a job. It's HER fault!"

Yes, we could have played better and won a few of those games. Not the point.

My post is about my frustration that if these poor calls (whether coerced, paid for, or influenced by fans/stupidity) were called properly, we are in the driver's seat for the playoffs.

It is a fact and all your talk about how we could have earned it is irrelevant. True, but irrelevant.

 

[Ellard80]

The team has been subpar most of the year, on offense anyway.
That game the O scored 3 points. They rarely could maintain a possession and turned the ball over numerous times. It was a bad performance all game long.
The Rams had 60 minutes to put something together on offense and never did.
They lost because they played like crap.
Same with the Tampa, Ravens and Whiners game. Although at this point Baltimore and the Whiners are superior teams.
The Seattle game they played pretty well but kept getting in their own way.

Teams haven't been able to score on pittsburgh at home all year for the most part. The way the game went down is the way most games have went down on Pitt;s home field. They have a good defense that dominates at home. Some games you aren't going to score points, and you still have to find a way to win. When the officials blow a call that awards the other team a touchdown - then its fucking you x10 hard. Against the cardinals they litteraly could have called holding on us at the beginning of every possesion and we still would have scored. Officiating plays out differently in different games.

When it's a close game, calls are magnified and can be way more costly.

 

[FrantikRam]

I do. We watched the game.

You’re problem is you’re looking at all the penalties as if that is relevant. Refs get obvious encroachment and false start penalties right 99% of the time. You have to look at 50-50 calls, which 12 out of 12 went against the Rams.

Just not possible without having head in the sand. Unless you’re OK with 4096 to 1 odds?

If so, you’re a lost cause.

Show me these 12 calls.

You didn't respond to my last post - so I'll say again - the only way someone can truly gauge whether a team is getting "screwed over" by the refs is by watching every play on the all 22 with another person who isn't biased toward the Rams, and calculating the penalties that should have been called on both teams.

Did you do that to come up with these 12 calls?

 

[dieterbrock]

Some of these people are living in an incredibly false and bizaare reality where they think officiating doesn't have an impact on who wins and loses a game.

I think its a bizarre reality when one ignores a team's ineptitude in a game only to focus on blaming officials. Steelers flagged 13 times in the game, cant sell me on favoritism.
I don't apologize for the Rams winning the NFC championship with a missed call. Because the game is 60 minutes long and the Saints had their chances. Same with the Steelers game, had all game to make up for bad plays.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I don't know how anyone can honestly blame anyone but the Rams for the Pittsburgh loss.
My goodness, how lucky were the Rams in the 1st place? Gift td with Fowler fumble 6 gave the Rams a 7-0 lead.
So remove each gift TD and Pittsburgh wins 10-5
And Pittsburgh called for 13 penalties in the game. 13! So I have a hard time seeing where the refs were "on their side"

What's next? If Baltimore gets called for PI on Kupp in Rams 1st drive, they beat the Ravens??

Why do your want to take away the rams td? They earned it. The stealers, on the other hand, were gifted a td from an incomplete pass that the fuckwits in New York somehow green lighted even though it was obviously an incomplete pass.

We know the rams played like shit. Nobody is arguing that. But what those fucks in New York did to them was unethical.

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[kurtfaulk]

Same with the Steelers game, had all game to make up for bad plays.

They did make up for it. Goff threw a perfect strike to Reynolds on 4th down in the endzone. However he got mugged and couldn't catch the ball. Mugged. No flag. And then the fucks in new York green lighted that mugging. How do the rams make up for that?

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[Ellard80]

I think its a bizarre reality when one ignores a team's ineptitude in a game only to focus on blaming officials. Steelers flagged 13 times in the game, cant sell me on favoritism.
I don't apologize for the Rams winning the NFC championship with a missed call. Because the game is 60 minutes long and the Saints had their chances. Same with the Steelers game, had all game to make up for bad plays.

Well the Rams were penalized 10 times.. so yeah the only thing I get from that is that the refs called a lot of penalties... changes nothing about what I said.

Officiating can dictate results of games no matter the sport... Like when the official in the nba was dicating games for money. They have tremendous influence on the outcome of the game - even more so in close games.

 

[gabriel18]

They did make up for it. Goff threw a perfect strike to Reynolds on 4th down in the endzone. However he got mugged and couldn't catch the ball. Mugged. No flag. And then the fucks in new York green lighted that mugging. How do the rams make up for that?

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It was pretty far away from us , but it looked like the DB ran straight through him without turning his head . I taped the game , but couldn't bring myself to watch it again . I did fast forward to the so called Goff fumble to see what I missed . It looked the same on TV as it did live . Bullshit call

 

[majrleaged]

Anyone who thinks the refs are NOT the reason why the Rams are likely to miss the playoffs has not been watching the games. Fixed it for you.

Just because you could argue that if we played better, it wouldn't matter, doesn't mean you throw away the bad calls. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Yes, we could have played better and won anyway (see yesterday's game). But we'd be 9-3 with even average officiating.

The problem that I have with this thinking is, the eye test tells most of us our team is not as good as last year and making way to many mistakes it didnt make last year. Every team can point to bad calls. Our team needs to play better and overcome the bad calls like they did last year and like all good teams do.

 

[fearsomefour]

OK, you're completely missing the point.

If I told you the reason your car isn't parked in the driveway is that a thief stole it last night and I have video evidence, would you counter with "Yeah, but the only reason I have to park outside is that my wife won't get a job. It's HER fault!"

Yes, we could have played better and won a few of those games. Not the point.

My post is about my frustration that if these poor calls (whether coerced, paid for, or influenced by fans/stupidity) were called properly, we are in the driver's seat for the playoffs.

It is a fact and all your talk about how we could have earned it is irrelevant. True, but irrelevant.

True but irrelevant.......a rare accomplishment.

 

[fearsomefour]

Teams haven't been able to score on pittsburgh at home all year for the most part. The way the game went down is the way most games have went down on Pitt;s home field. They have a good defense that dominates at home. Some games you aren't going to score points, and you still have to find a way to win. When the officials blow a call that awards the other team a touchdown - then its fucking you x10 hard. Against the cardinals they litteraly could have called holding on us at the beginning of every possesion and we still would have scored. Officiating plays out differently in different games.

When it's a close game, calls are magnified and can be way more costly.

And every team can make this argument this year.....and most years.
Bad calls, missed calls, over turned calls, calls not over turned that should have been.
It’s like the person making the case that the guy missing a free throw at the end of the game cost the game. Meanwhile his team missed two layups, eight open jumpers, ten free throws and turned the call over 8 times during the game.
I agree things don’t exist in a vacuum. One thing can’t be added or removed without other potential changes.
Basically, its excuse making nonsense that bad teams do.
It is the weakest of weak sauce in my humble opinion.

 

[Ellard80]

And every team can make this argument this year.....and most years.
Bad calls, missed calls, over turned calls, calls not over turned that should have been.
It’s like the person making the case that the guy missing a free throw at the end of the game cost the game. Meanwhile his team missed two layups, eight open jumpers, ten free throws and turned the call over 8 times during the game.
I agree things don’t exist in a vacuum. One thing can’t be added or removed without other potential changes.
Basically, its excuse making nonsense that bad teams do.
It is the weakest of weak sauce in my humble opinion.

Every team can't make that argument because I've seen that play happen 6 times and only in the Rams game did I see it called a fumble.

I don't disagree with you in some ways, nor do I believe in conspiracies, but I also do not believe that "all things even out."

If what you are saying is totally true... then there would be no point in trying to bribe officials...

 

[gabriel18]

Teams haven't been able to score on pittsburgh at home all year for the most part. The way the game went down is the way most games have went down on Pitt;s home field. They have a good defense that dominates at home. Some games you aren't going to score points, and you still have to find a way to win. When the officials blow a call that awards the other team a touchdown - then its fucking you x10 hard. Against the cardinals they litteraly could have called holding on us at the beginning of every possesion and we still would have scored. Officiating plays out differently in different games.

When it's a close game, calls are magnified and can be way more costly.

I'm not sure about their dominant D at home . Hags 28 Ravens 26 Colts 24 even the Phins were up 14-0 Browns 13 all in Pittsburgh Bungels and Rams scored 3
That's far from dominant against good teams . The Rams game plan was inept , but there were still plays that could've been made . I'm still pissed I have to wait another 8 years till they come back to town again . No Ben , Bell , or Brown and still couldn't get the win . That will turn out to be a killer loss .

 

[Ellard80]

I'm not sure about their dominant D at home . Hags 28 Ravens 26 Colts 24 even the Phins were up 14-0 Browns 13 all in Pittsburgh Bungels and Rams scored 3
That's far from dominant against good teams . The Rams game plan was inept , but there were still plays that could've been made . I'm still pissed I have to wait another 8 years till they come back to town again . No Ben , Bell , or Brown and still couldn't get the win . That will turn out to be a killer loss .

Yeah perhaps... they avg giving up 17ppg at home and we scored 17 pts. I'm not defending the Rams poor play - I'm just saying sometimes games are ugly and close, and calls are more crucial. In the 1990's the refs could have called 15 penalties on the 49ners per game and we still couldn't have beaten them.

 

[gabriel18]

Yeah perhaps... they avg giving up 17ppg at home and we scored 17 pts. I'm not defending the Rams poor play - I'm just saying sometimes games are ugly and close, and calls are more crucial. In the 1990's the refs could have called 15 penalties on the 49ners per game and we still couldn't have beaten them.

I'm not much for correcting anyone , but we scored 12 . 9 of them directly by the D . It was an awful game to watch on both sides , but there were some obvious huge calls against the Rams that swayed the game . Still no way to defend the 3 points the Rams mustered. Since I live in Steeler country I can't tell my buddies about the crappie calls or I'd hear the boo hoo blame the refs statement. If I had a $1 for everyone that asked me " what happened to your Rams " , I'd have lots of beer money . Especially after the Ravens game . Not much I can say

 

[gabriel18]

Every team can't make that argument because I've seen that play happen 6 times and only in the Rams game did I see it called a fumble.

I don't disagree with you in some ways, nor do I believe in conspiracies, but I also do not believe that "all things even out."

If what you are saying is totally true... then there would be no point in trying to bribe officials...

I've never seen that called a fumble in any game I can remember. Rudolph had 3 in the same game that looked a lot worse . They didn't wait long to confirm it either . I was still in shock at what the call was since it happened right in front of me . I didn't even get excited when the DB ran right by me for the gifted TD . No replay on the jumbo and within a minute their kicking the extra point . The only thing I could figure I missed is the defender swatted it forward. Nope
I'm getting pissed again just thinking about it . Where's the dead horse emoji from last year .