Refs cost us this year. Pisses me off as we now have to win 4 more.

[fearsomefour]

Every team can't make that argument because I've seen that play happen 6 times and only in the Rams game did I see it called a fumble.

I don't disagree with you in some ways, nor do I believe in conspiracies, but I also do not believe that "all things even out."

If what you are saying is totally true... then there would be no point in trying to bribe officials...

In regards to that exact specific call, you’re right. You’re OCDing out with the play and not seeing the bigger picture.
No game comes down to one call.
Who is trying to bribe officials?

 

[fearsomefour]

I'm not much for correcting anyone , but we scored 12 . 9 of them directly by the D . It was an awful game to watch on both sides , but there were some obvious huge calls against the Rams that swayed the game . Still no way to defend the 3 points the Rams mustered. Since I live in Steeler country I can't tell my buddies about the crappie calls or I'd hear the boo hoo blame the refs statement. If I had a $1 for everyone that asked me " what happened to your Rams " , I'd have lots of beer money . Especially after the Ravens game . Not much I can say

It baffles me, completely baffles me, that fans can not see past their loyalties when watching a game.
I can tell if a fumble is fumble or not in slo mo whether it’s a Ram or not. Same with flags.
I just don’t get that level of myopia.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

In regards to that exact specific call, you’re right. You’re OCDing out with the play and not seeing the bigger picture.
No game comes down to one call.
Who is trying to bribe officials?

Here we go again. Never claimed officials are being bribed. Maybe, maybe not. Irrelevant.

If these calls went the way they should, we'd be set up for easy playoff berth. Can't argue that with how we could have/ should have played better. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. (please repeat 7000 times)...

I agree that if we were as in tune as our 2001 Rams (don't get me started on Brady's intentional grounding and spygate), it wouldn't matter and we'd be cruising into the playoffs anyway.

 

[Mojo Ram]

OP:
I feel ya, but the Rams are 7-5 because we got sucker punched by Tampa, weren't prepared for San Fran and got smoked by an elite Ravens team.

The Pitt game was the only loss i'd consider putting on some horrific, conveniently timed officiating.

As for the officiating as a whole in the league? It's a clusterfuck and it's never been worse.

 

[LesBaker]

I do. We watched the game.

You’re problem is you’re looking at all the penalties as if that is relevant. Refs get obvious encroachment and false start penalties right 99% of the time. You have to look at 50-50 calls, which 12 out of 12 went against the Rams.

Just not possible without having head in the sand. Unless you’re OK with 4096 to 1 odds?

If so, you’re a lost cause.

Name those plays and post video supporting your claim.

Some of these people are living in an incredibly false and bizaare reality where they think officiating doesn't have an impact on who wins and loses a game.

Yes of course it has an impact, the Rams got a call their way that was terrible versus NO which impacted the outcome. But the narrative that games are rigged is bullshit.

Here we go again. Never claimed officials are being bribed. Maybe, maybe not. Irrelevant.

Yes you did.

My post is about my frustration that if these poor calls (whether coerced, paid for, or influenced by fans/stupidity) were called properly, we are in the driver's seat for the playoffs.

Paid to make poor calls is a bribe.

 

[LesBaker]

OP:
I feel ya, but the Rams are 7-5 because we got sucker punched by Tampa, weren't prepared for San Fran and got smoked by an elite Ravens team.

The Pitt game was the only loss i'd consider putting on some horrific, conveniently timed officiating.

As for the officiating as a whole in the league? It's a clusterfuck and it's never been worse.

Tampa won because the Rams Boy Wonder called SEVENTY pass plays versus ELEVEN running plays, turned the ball over FOUR times and let the Bucs convert 3rd downs at the rate of 8-13. Giving up 55 points is a really bad day. That game was so difficult to watch. The 4th quarter was hideous. McVay deserved a dickpunch for that. And I really like him as a play designer and HC.

SF is just a better team as we now know.

The Steelers game was a repeat of sorts of the Tampa Bay game.

The Bucs and Steelers games should have been wins. But it wasn't the refs that put the two games in the L column.

 

[fearsomefour]

Here we go again. Never claimed officials are being bribed. Maybe, maybe not. Irrelevant.

If these calls went the way they should, we'd be set up for easy playoff berth. Can't argue that with how we could have/ should have played better. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. (please repeat 7000 times)...

I agree that if we were as in tune as our 2001 Rams (don't get me started on Brady's intentional grounding and spygate), it wouldn't matter and we'd be cruising into the playoffs anyway.

Ellard mentioned the bribery thing.
So.....this whole convo is irrelevant?
I agree.

 

[gabriel18]

It baffles me, completely baffles me, that fans can not see past their loyalties when watching a game.
I can tell if a fumble is fumble or not in slo mo whether it’s a Ram or not. Same with flags.
I just don’t get that level of myopia.

Yea I had to try and defend the call in NO last year to my buddies. My only defense was that bad calls are made every game , and it eventually equals out . Even I don't believe that one

 

[Ellard80]

Ellard mentioned the bribery thing.
So.....this whole convo is irrelevant?
I agree.

Yeah understood my point about bribes you are trying to dilute it.

My point is pretty clear - if officiating has nothing really to do with the outcomes of games, then why historically have their been and so many crooked bribes and gambling plans with officials?

You basically are saying that in general officiating has nothing to do with wins and losses - so is Les and that's total BS sorry.

It has nothing to do with myopia for me, I have and will always admit when the Rams get a benefit of a call. I always try to see things for what they are - not what I want them to be.

 

[fearsomefour]

Yea I had to try and defend the call in NO last year to my buddies. My only defense was that bad calls are made every game , and it eventually equals out . Even I don't believe that one

There was no defending that call.
But, a flag is a flag no matter the team.

 

[fearsomefour]

Yeah understood my point about bribes you are trying to dilute it.

My point is pretty clear - if officiating has nothing really to do with the outcomes of games, then why historically have their been and so many crooked bribes and gambling plans with officials?

You basically are saying that in general officiating has nothing to do with wins and losses - so is Les and that's total BS sorry.

It has nothing to do with myopia for me, I have and will always admit when the Rams get a benefit of a call. I always try to see things for what they are - not what I want them to be.

Obviously reffing and flags can affect the outcome of games.
What I am saying is everyone falls victim to it over the course of a year.
A team losing a 60 minute game because of one call? No. Not buying that.
It’s still about quality of play.

 

[Ellard80]

Obviously reffing and flags can affect the outcome of games.
What I am saying is everyone falls victim to it over the course of a year.
A team losing a 60 minute game because of one call? No. Not buying that.
It’s still about quality of play.

Do you think one play can determine the outcome of a game?

 

[fearsomefour]

Do you think one play can determine the outcome of a game?

We are talking about different things I think.
It’s a sixty minute game.

 

[dieterbrock]

Why do your want to take away the rams td? They earned it. The stealers, on the other hand, were gifted a td from an incomplete pass that the fuckwits in New York somehow green lighted even though it was obviously an incomplete pass.

We know the rams played like shit. Nobody is arguing that. But what those fucks in New York did to them was unethical.

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It was a fluke Td. They didn’t cause the snap to fly over the qb head or cause the ball to bounce perfectly in to Fowler’s hands.
It was fortunate.
On the other hand, Goff may not have fumbled but Pitt was at least putting a rush on causing the controversial play.

 

[dieterbrock]

Well the Rams were penalized 10 times.. so yeah the only thing I get from that is that the refs called a lot of penalties... changes nothing about what I said.

Officiating can dictate results of games no matter the sport... Like when the official in the nba was dicating games for money. They have tremendous influence on the outcome of the game - even more so in close games.

Pittsburgh penalized 30% more, but the refs favored them. Yeah. Mkay

 

[Ellard80]

Pittsburgh penalized 30% more, but the refs favored them. Yeah. Mkay

Not sure about that math bro lol.... but I never said the Refs "favored them" or were out to get the rams or any shit like that.

I just said that one call can sometimes cost teams a game... just like one play can. The Rams and Pitt both played bad on offense and good on defense... rams were penalized 10-95 years and pitt 13-107.

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If you look at the stats... the game was pretty even and why that blown sack fumble call was even more catastrophic..

 

[kurtfaulk]

Pittsburgh penalized 30% more, but the refs favored them. Yeah. Mkay

what was the precentage of the rams getting fucked by the fuckwits in new york? 100%? no it was less because they took 5 minutes to work out everett was a yard inbounds on a sideline run.

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