Ramsey traded to Miami for ‘23 3rd rd pick(#77 overall) and TE Hunter Long

[fanotodd]

Per overthecap.com here are the cap savings from post June 1st trades. I believe they can designate the trade as happening after June 1 (not sure whether that still helps us get under the cap before the upcoming league deadline though).
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If I’m reading this right, the dead $$ is on the left and the cap savings on the right, why do the Rams have to trade Ramsey?
They can dump both Robinson and Allen and save a truckload of $$. Their combined dead $$ is peanuts compared to Ramsey. That’s if I’m reading this right.

Allen looks like a no brainer. There are several Centers to pick from with the Rams’ 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Robinson might not have to go, because our WR corps other than Kupp, isn’t gonna scare anybody. I would just have a much easier time losing Robinson over Ramsey.

 

[Corbin]

And yet, Morris presided over a defense that ranked 5th in the NFL in passer rating allowed in 2021.

and yet we gave up 6.9 Yards per play and a 67.4 comp %.

 

[PhillyRam]

If I’m reading this right, the dead $$ is on the left and the cap savings on the right, why do the Rams have to trade Ramsey?
They can dump both Robinson and Allen and save a truckload of $$. Their combined dead $$ is peanuts compared to Ramsey. That’s if I’m reading this right.

Allen looks like a no brainer. There are several Centers to pick from with the Rams’ 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Robinson might not have to go, because our WR corps other than Kupp, isn’t gonna scare anybody. I would just have a much easier time losing Robinson over Ramsey.

Problem is you can't designate a trade as a June 1st trade unless it actually happens after June 1st. So those savings are not realistic unless they actually find a trade partner in camp due to an injury, which could happen, but that doesn't help them in the 23' FA period since the savings are too late.

 

[AvengerRam]

and yet we gave up 6.9 Yards per play and a 67.4 comp %.

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In 2021 we gave up 5.2 y/p (tied for 7th) and a completion % of 66.6%. Not sure where you’re getting your numbers from.

 

[fanotodd]

Problem is you can't designate a trade as a June 1st trade unless it actually happens after June 1st. So those savings are not realistic unless they actually find a trade partner in camp due to an injury, which could happen, but that doesn't help them in the 23' FA period since the savings are too late.

Oh, I wasn’t talking about trading Allen or Robinson. I was ready to flat out cut them if it meant keeping Ramsey.
Although I do see that cutting Robinson could be dependent on who is ready to step up out of those prospects the Rams have in the WR stable. Allen could easily be replaced by a draftee.

Again, I might be wrong here, but it is my understanding that you CAN cut those guys pre June 1rst but designate them as POST June 1rst cuts—freeing up the $$ now.

 

[majrleaged]

Neither are players. Ramsey could blow out a knee in preseason and never return to form. Every decision involves risk.

True, but really the injury risk is always there no matter how the FO builds the team.

 

[OldSchool]

And yet Morris presided over a defense that ranked between 14 and 18 depending upon the metric in 2022. Don't forget that under Staley that defense ranked #1 then dropped two consecutive years under Morris. People call that trending downwards. You can't ignore they went from #1 to #18 in two years under Morris.

Merlin got it right. Morris at best is mediocre. He plays his defense hoping for an offensive mistake. Staley played his defense trying to create those mistakes. Sorry but you can't take Morris' performance in isolation.

Not the same defense. I know this is hard to understand but not the same players. That makes all the difference. Staleys defense this year? Yeah right behind the Rams in yards and tied in PPG. Players on the roster will elevate a coach from middle of the pack to top of the pack it's not a hard concept to get. By your own argument Staley is mediocre as he proved this year.

With Derwin James arguably the best safety in the game. The best OLB duo and some very good young CB he was bang average and disappointing.

 

[PARAM]

Problem is you can't designate a trade as a June 1st trade unless it actually happens after June 1st. So those savings are not realistic unless they actually find a trade partner in camp due to an injury, which could happen, but that doesn't help them in the 23' FA period since the savings are too late.

Right!

They're not going to "get there" with just cuts, just restructures or a trade here or there. It's gotta be a combo. These proposed cuts and trades are to get the Rams 'under the cap'. But they need to be considerably under the cap in order to sign free agents. So, in my mind, without knowing who you will probably be able to sign, cutting quality players doesn't make a lot of sense to get there. Cause you might be out the quality player and the free agent you 'thought' you might be able to sign. A bird in the hand.......

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Oh, I wasn’t talking about trading Allen or Robinson. I was ready to flat out cut them if it meant keeping Ramsey.
Although I do see that cutting Robinson could be dependent on who is ready to step up out of those prospects the Rams have in the WR stable. Allen could easily be replaced by a draftee.

Again, I might be wrong here, but it is my understanding that you CAN cut those guys pre June 1rst but designate them as POST June 1rst cuts—freeing up the $$ now.

Man I'd cut Allen and or Robinson in a flash to keep Ramsey, no questions asked.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Man I'd cut Allen and or Robinson in a flash to keep Ramsey, no questions asked.

According to Over-the-Cap, Cutting Robinson post-June-1 carries $18M of Dead-$, with 0 cap savings.

Zero.

 

[OldSchool]

According to Over-the-Cap, Cutting Robinson post-June-1 carries $18M of Dead-$, with 0 cap savings.

Zero.

Cutting Robinson is a terrible idea no benefit to us at all, not saying you're endorsing that just quoting you for simplicity and I'm a simple kind of guy.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

According to Over-the-Cap, Cutting Robinson post-June-1 carries $18M of Dead-$, with 0 cap savings.

Zero.

Hey I'm hypothetically speaking buddy, don't call me out on the numbers cuz I obviously didn't look at them lol... Just simply saying I'd get rid of those 2 before Ramsey

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I guess I might as well state the obvious after my last post lol, I'm not looking at what the cap savings are based on whatever player is traded or cut. I'm just simply saying you need to find a way to keep Ramsey on the team that is reasonable. I personally believe it can be done if I see teams like the Saints signing people even though their cap situation is horrible too

 

[Allen2McVay]

Hey I'm hypothetically speaking buddy, don't call me out on the numbers cuz I obviously didn't look at them lol... Just simply saying I'd get rid of those 2 before Ramsey

You really think my comment was 'calling you out'?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

You really think my comment was 'calling you out'?

Nah man, I'm joking hence the lol..... don't worry, I'm not a sensitive booty .....don't take that outta context now!

 

[Allen2McVay]

Nah man, I'm joking hence the lol..... don't worry, I'm not a sensitive booty .....don't take that outta context now!

I didn't think so. You're the "Tingling Testicles Guy" ... Right?

By-the-Way, if you're going to use words like 'hence' when posting, this Forum may not be the place for you.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I didn't think so. You're the "Tingling Testicles Guy" ... Right?

By-the-Way, if you're going to use words like 'hence' when posting, this Forum may not be the place for you.

Yup that's me hahahaha....I'm the nut job.......but I like the word "hence".....what do you suggest as a replacement cuz that's why is so boring

 

[PhillyRam]

Oh, I wasn’t talking about trading Allen or Robinson. I was ready to flat out cut them if it meant keeping Ramsey.
Although I do see that cutting Robinson could be dependent on who is ready to step up out of those prospects the Rams have in the WR stable. Allen could easily be replaced by a draftee.

Again, I might be wrong here, but it is my understanding that you CAN cut those guys pre June 1rst but designate them as POST June 1rst cuts—freeing up the $$ now.

You can designate two early releases as post June 1st, but only two.

 

[Stl2La]

View: https://twitter.com/steelersdepot/status/1630378687534354432?s=46&t=qbbrYip4wzh7b2DGbqq1dA

 

[dieterbrock]

Staleys defense this year?

Can you imagine what the masses would think about a defense that gave up a 27-0 lead in playoff game?