Rams sign Bobby Wagner

[wolfdogg]

Took a little less to play in LA


View: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1511100145877897221

Smart move by rams to let him opt out if he balls out and can get test the market again. If I'm wagner that is worth more than the slightly less money over first 2 years.

 

[ottoman89]

Oh, my bad, I got your self described description below your avatar mixed up. It's, beer slamming, hog "farming".

Totally on me man

I'm kind of retarded so I'm sure I messed it up. Haha.

 

[So Ram]

Capitalizing HATE for Reeder is an exaggeration. I don't think people here hate him, they just hate too many of his decisions, too many mistakes, and too many missed tackles.

I love the guys effort and apparent dedication and availability, which I call as I see it, but I'm also gonna call the results on the field every time.

I have no problem with the rams keeping him, although I doubt they will, I just don't like him starting.

Well I don’t see any reason to keep him really at this point.Bobby Wagner signing for 5 years & such an upgrade it’s better to develop a younger player & solid on special teams.

 

[Ranma]

Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk (NBC Sports) 4/4/2022

Reported as a five-year, $50 million deal, the contract pays out $6.5 million in 2022, with another $3.5 million guaranteed in 2023.

Here are the full details:

1. Signing bonus: $5 million.

2. 2022 base salary: $1.5 million, fully guaranteed.

3. 2023 90-man roster bonus: $3.5 million, fully guaranteed as of April 8, 2022.

4. 2023 base salary: $7.5 million.

5. 2024 90-man roster bonus: $2.5 million, guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2023 league year.

6. 2024 base salary: $8.5 million.

7. 2025 90-man roster bonus: $2.5 million.

8. 2025 base salary: $8 million.

9. 2025 90-man roster bonus: $2.5 million.

10. 2026 base salary: $8.5 million.

Inside the Bobby Wagner deal​

 

[Riverumbbq]

Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk (NBC Sports) 4/4/2022

Inside the Bobby Wagner deal​

$2.5M CAP hit for 2022.

Bobby Wagner

Bobby Wagner contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

 

[Allen2McVay]

I'm not even certain what that means ... 'Pays Out"?!? Not impressed by Mike Florio.

There are two numbers that matter to Wagner. The $ he receives in 2022; and the total guaranteed-$.

To a Rams' fan, the number that most matters is Neither of the above. It's the 2022 Cap-Hit to the Rams.

$6.5M seems Low to me for $ Wagner will receive in 2022.

$6.5M seems High to me for the Cap-Hit to the Rams.

Just got to wait-and-see on Wagner's deal.

It looks like Mike Florio got it right ... Damn! I hate to say that!!

Per Spotrac, the amount 'paid-out' to Wagner for 2022 is only $6.5M. Good job Mike Florio! Kill-Me-Now.

However, most important, the details are very cap-friendly to the Rams for 2022 ... just $2.5M.

 

[IE Rams]

Richard Sherman gives a nice breakdown of Bobby Wagner--the signing, what he brings, etc. Also Sherman breaks down the NFC West, Mayfield, and other stuff. Enjoyable listen.


View: https://youtu.be/ZQ-UKl-mT2o

 

[FrantikRam]

I recall Jeff Fisher had a phase “Bobby Wagner mad” he’d use every once in a while to Snead, as a measure of disagreement

I believe he used that in reference to us drafting Mo Alexander (that he would be "Bobby Wagner mad" if we didn't take him).

Goes to show you that for every Bobby Wagner there's a....well, a Mo Alexander.

 

[Riverumbbq]

New Rams LB Bobby Wagner on sudden Seahawks exit: 'It could have been a simple conversation'

"I shouldn't have had to find out the way I found out."

www.yahoo.com

 

[thirteen28]

View: https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1511105154480672770?s=20&t=PoLg2Nu64VdIRvxIbyuvpw


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Good rule to live by.

Yes, a very good rule to live by.

Given what we know now, would anyone have been pissed if we had taken Kupp in the 2nd round instead of the 3rd? Or for that matter, had we, instead of taking Robinson at pick 2 in 2014, taken AD instead. In both cases, the Rams would have been ripped for taking a player higher than he should have gone, but also, in both cases, those players would have made those arguments moot. Kupp has provided us value that is usually reserved for WRs taken in the top 5 of the first round, and Donald has outperformed numerous guys taken #1 overall.

I get trying to match value to the position in the draft where a player is taken, but sometimes there is too much focus on that and causes people to overthink shit. If you like a guy and know he can help you, you've got to tune that shit out and just take him when you can.

 

[PARAM]

That's why I shake my head when somebody says, "they didn't need to draft him there, they could have got him later". If you like the guy and you trust your scouts, as the Rams obviously do, take him. Much better to have the guy earlier than he's "projected", than not having him at all.

 

[So Ram]

That's why I shake my head when somebody says, "they didn't need to draft him there, they could have got him later". If you like the guy and you trust your scouts, as the Rams obviously do, take him. Much better to have the guy earlier than he's "projected", than not having him at all.

Yeah ok, let’s talk Gerald Everett & Mcvay. Still drafted him & got Kupp later. John Johnson was a nice Free Bonus.
I hear what your saying,but there is examples both ways.Think more in earlier rounds with so much scouting on those players.

 

[Kupped]

It looks like Mike Florio got it right ... Damn! I hate to say that!!

Per Spotrac, the amount 'paid-out' to Wagner for 2022 is only $6.5M. Good job Mike Florio! Kill-Me-Now.

However, most important, the details are very cap-friendly to the Rams for 2022 ... just $2.5M.

So much for any narrative about big philosophy change.
I thought 6 million for this year.. wasn’t far off.
Totally reasonable deal.

 

[TexasRam]

Sherman has a surprisingly good radio voice to go with a very unbiased take on most things. He is also well spoken.

I hope he gets it together and leaves the anger stuff in the past. I hate seeing anyone self destruct.

 

[PARAM]

Yeah ok, let’s talk Gerald Everett & Mcvay. Still drafted him & got Kupp later. John Johnson was a nice Free Bonus.
I hear what your saying,but there is examples both ways.Think more in earlier rounds with so much scouting on those players.

They don't all work out. Another angle is, if you don't take them, they definitely don't work out for you. Gotta trust your scouts. Everett, Johnson and Kupp was a great draft, even with Everett not working out and JJ leaving via FA. Sure we could plug in a couple of names for Everett and it would have been better but it was a great draft anyway. They don't all work out.

 

[RocknRam29]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mehpmTdp5s

 

[Stl2La]

View: https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1511156411589349377?s=21&t=3PWTniueOfS3qMyh_l1BEA

 

[PhillyRam]

If Snead selects Wagner in '12, maybe they don't get a crack at AD. Butterfly effect.

Yeah, funny how that could work out. Maybe the Rams D is much better, maybe Fisher gets a winning season & holds onto his job a yr longer & McVay is now coaching the Niners?

Used to think the same about the disasterous Bettis trade and what happens if they never had traded him? So if he stays then Faulk never arrives and maybe no SB? Maybe Banks plays a little better and Warner is never signed.

 

[oldnotdead]

His contract is an incredible sweetheart deal for this year. As expected it's 3 years by it's structure with an option to play longer. If he retires or is released after 3 years the dead cap is easily managed.

I expect OBJ to sign next as his contract should have a minimal impact this year and be primarily incentive-driven. I see it being a 4 year deal understanding that this year is questionable. After OBJ then Michel, followed by Gay and Howard.

I really think the Rams will begin to incorporate incentives into their contracts in ways they haven't done previously. Each year if a player performs he gets extra if not he doesn't.

 

[So Ram]

They don't all work out. Another angle is, if you don't take them, they definitely don't work out for you. Gotta trust your scouts. Everett, Johnson and Kupp was a great draft, even with Everett not working out and JJ leaving via FA. Sure we could plug in a couple of names for Everett and it would have been better but it was a great draft anyway. They don't all work out.

Yeah George Kittle was on my draft list around 4th.
Cook
Kupp
Kittles
2017
I would have missed on the Bills wr Z.Jones, which makes things funnier. I liked D. Cook & I believe Z.Jones was traded from The Rams.

Anyway no looking back