Rams Defeat Cards MEDIA FALLOUT

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

kurtfaulk

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Sep 7, 2011
Messages
16,440


The Rams d has given up the 3rd most receptions to wrs and 4th most yards.

And some people, or maybe just one person, wonders why most people were frustrated with Morris throughout the season.

It's just frustrating seeing all those completions made. It seems so unnecessary with the talent on this defense.

We wanted to see what we saw in the wild card game.

.
 

Merlin

Damn the torpedoes
Rams On Demand Sponsor
ROD Credit | 2023 TOP Member
Joined
May 8, 2014
Messages
38,866
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #83
The Rams d has given up the 3rd most receptions to wrs and 4th most yards.

And some people, or maybe just one person, wonders why most people were frustrated with Morris throughout the season.

It's just frustrating seeing all those completions made. It seems so unnecessary with the talent on this defense.

We wanted to see what we saw in the wild card game.

.
No doubt. But for me as I keep saying Morris just learned a new defense on the job. And he did do enough for us to win 12 games. And the defense seemed to improve as he got more and more comfortable calling it. Prior to that 9er game they had strung together some great games.

I think it's entirely possible that Morris is in the zone now with a fresh reminder in his head about letting up on his calls courtesy of the fortyshitters.
 

thirteen28

I like pizza.
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
8,486
Name
Erik
I meant, "Well the bright side for him is he's trending towards only 3 losses." :laugh1:

I listened to another podcast today and agreed with the hosts that speculated that Kingsbury just doesn't make adjustments in midseason. The league gets about 7-8 games of film on his teams and figures out how to slow them down but they keep doing the same thing.
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,419
Yeah it's gonna be interesting. This is a big, big, big game. IMO the Rams right now can taste that ring. They can feel it. How can they not. They know how close they are. None of these teams are overpowering. This Rams team is on par with the best teams, they have enough this year to get it done.

I mean 2018 I couldn't believe we got to the dance. Should have won it too. But that team had a gimped Gurley. That team was missing Kupp.

The 2021 team is like the opposite. No idea if they can do it. But they are getting stronger. The defense has been improving every week and was dominant in the wildcard win. The Rams have two WRs who can win vs a top corner. Think about that. When was the last time a McVay team could say that in a key playoff window? And it's a recent thing that Odell has emerged enough to where he's that level of threat.

They got Akers back and he's pissed and he's fast as fuck still. WHAT??? HOW. Maybe even Jones for this weekend. Holy shit.

It just feels to me like McVay's previous teams would have something missing in the big games. They always felt a bit undergunned. But this year's team oh no man. This team is loaded and it's only weakness is in the secondary and those weaknesses are countered by the strength of our DL.

I'll say this re: the Bucs... I think our DL wins the LOS. I think we stuff their run game and harass Brady and make things hard for him. But I'm not sure our OL can win the LOS. That's the game IMO. That's what will determine things. But the more I look at this team the more I see a ton of great signs of things aligning for them.
You want I should take Vita Vea, out?

09Gz8o6.gif
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,419
I've been spending time at azsportsfans.com on a goodwill tour. It seems that they hate us as much as Niner fans now. We have elevated ourselves after Monday Night. I found the missing DVontel over there, licking his wounds. Even he thinks Murray is a fraud. I think I saw more positivity with Lions fans and their team than the Cards fans and their 11 win squad.
 

Merlin

Damn the torpedoes
Rams On Demand Sponsor
ROD Credit | 2023 TOP Member
Joined
May 8, 2014
Messages
38,866
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #90
I've been spending time at azsportsfans.com on a goodwill tour. It seems that they hate us as much as Niner fans now. We have elevated ourselves after Monday Night. I found the missing DVontel over there, licking his wounds. Even he thinks Murray is a fraud. I think I saw more positivity with Lions fans and their team than the Cards fans and their 11 win squad.
You are truly a man of the people.
 

Karate61

There can be no excellence without effort.
Rams On Demand Sponsor
SportsBook Bookie
Camp Reporter
Joined
Sep 10, 2014
Messages
6,875
Name
Jeff

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,419
Brady:
"Retire? Don't talk about—Retirement?! You kidding me? Retirement?! I haven't even played for the 49ers yet. Retire? Yeah, right...never!
LoyalRam:
"Then we'll make you."
 

oldnotdead

Legend
Joined
May 16, 2019
Messages
5,406
But for me as I keep saying Morris just learned a new defense on the job.

All due respect but he hasn't been playing Staley's scheme. Staley would give the QB one look then shift into another at the snap. Staley played a zone with man concepts. Neither of those things are what Morris played for the bulk of the season. He played a very soft passive zone. He would switch up and play man but it was clear before the snap he was in man coverage, he didn't play zone with man concepts. Staley played aggressively, defending all passing levels. Morris routinely left the short zone uncontested. That is why Kyler had a field day in their first win. Simply plotting Kyler's passes shows how the vast majority of his passes were within 10 yds. Morris ignored that in the first game or he didn't do his homework.

Morris played the same soft zone he used with the Falcons and which probably led to his being switched to being a WR coach. It's only towards the end of the season that he has begun to play his secondary aggressively. His scheme dropped this #1 ranked defense to around the 16th ranked unit, being ranked in the top 5 in some of the negative pass defense rankings in the process.

Has he begun to change? He still loves his soft zone which allowed the Niners to go down and tie up the game in less than 40 seconds. But the replay of the pick 6 against Murray shows how he changed in playing the Cards in both the wins. His secondary was covering Kyler's first two short reads which allowed Reeder time to get to him. Morris was in man coverage on that play which in itself is a change from earlier in the season.
 

Merlin

Damn the torpedoes
Rams On Demand Sponsor
ROD Credit | 2023 TOP Member
Joined
May 8, 2014
Messages
38,866
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #95
All due respect but he hasn't been playing Staley's scheme. Staley would give the QB one look then shift into another at the snap. Staley played a zone with man concepts. Neither of those things are what Morris played for the bulk of the season. He played a very soft passive zone. He would switch up and play man but it was clear before the snap he was in man coverage, he didn't play zone with man concepts. Staley played aggressively, defending all passing levels. Morris routinely left the short zone uncontested. That is why Kyler had a field day in their first win. Simply plotting Kyler's passes shows how the vast majority of his passes were within 10 yds. Morris ignored that in the first game or he didn't do his homework.
Staley installed Cover 4 and ran it with his own twist for personnel. But it wasn't like he called only that. Rams simply ran Cover 4 and 6 most, and were one of the most frequent teams in that scheme in 2020. Staley also had added wrinkles which was part of his buzz along with how good the defense was statistically.

When I say Morris was learning that is because McVay hired him to run the defense he wanted, which included the use of match quarters that had stymied him so often. Now I don't count our formations but we run a heavy two deep safety scheme and he disguises and moves shit around post-snap. I'm sure there's plenty of cover 4 calls in there. Plenty of cover 4 with match and plenty as drop and it's the drop call that everyone bitches about. In that call you have 4 DBs deep, so the field is quartered, and the outside corners are back too far for say a third and short situation.

So it's accurate to say he learned that scheme while on the job. I think that's how shit went down and I figure he improved as the year went on with his gameplanning and calls.
 

CGI_Ram

Hamburger Connoisseur
Moderator
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
48,893
Name
Burger man
I've been spending time at azsportsfans.com on a goodwill tour. It seems that they hate us as much as Niner fans now. We have elevated ourselves after Monday Night. I found the missing DVontel over there, licking his wounds. Even he thinks Murray is a fraud. I think I saw more positivity with Lions fans and their team than the Cards fans and their 11 win squad.

I like reading that board occasionally. It is generally level headed, but they took the loss hard.

Lots down on Murray.

Lots ready to fire Kingsbury.
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,419
I like reading that board occasionally. It is generally level headed, but they took the loss hard.

Lots down on Murray.

Lots ready to fire Kingsbury.
I like to help those guys laugh and encourage them to stay the course. You don't want to be too hasty in getting rid of the Midget. You also don't want to to dump a HC that seems to make few mid-season adjustments when they're figured out after week 8.

Unless they can get Wisenhunt and Rosen back.....
 

majrleaged

Hall of Fame
Joined
Sep 10, 2016
Messages
4,145
I've been spending time at azsportsfans.com on a goodwill tour. It seems that they hate us as much as Niner fans now. We have elevated ourselves after Monday Night. I found the missing DVontel over there, licking his wounds. Even he thinks Murray is a fraud. I think I saw more positivity with Lions fans and their team than the Cards fans and their 11 win squad.
I think on the first sack we got on him with AD and Gains, that all he had to do was step to the right and run up the middle. Instead he went down like those goats that when you scare them they stiffen and fall over. The Rams were in his head from the jump. He played scared all game.
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
30,419
I think on the first sack we got on him with AD and Gains, that all he had to do was step to the right and run up the middle. Instead he went down like those goats that when you scare them they stiffen and fall over. The Rams were in his head from the jump. He played scared all game.
I think Murray has to be more scripted by a HC/OC that knows how to male mid-season adjustments. Kingsberry is good for about the first 8 games in a season and is for shyte after that. Murray is athletically talented, but is a little guy in a big man's league. Hell/ I'd be scared seeing 320 lb monsters coming after me, too....
 

majrleaged

Hall of Fame
Joined
Sep 10, 2016
Messages
4,145
I think Murray has to be more scripted by a HC/OC that knows how to male mid-season adjustments. Kingsberry is good for about the first 8 games in a season and is for shyte after that. Murray is athletically talented, but is a little guy in a big man's league. Hell/ I'd be scared seeing 320 lb monsters coming after me, too....
When they drafted him and signed Kingsberry I said it was a mistake. He is the smallest QB in the league ever and Kingsberry's record was a losing one. Other than working for McVay he had nothing going for him.
The second half of the season is a thing tho. We have seen it with McVay and he struggled with it at first. Kingsberry, true to form hasn't. LOL