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WestCoastRam said:
Most likely Staley to SF.
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I am not sure about that, are they going to change to a 3-4 and put Nick Bosa in coverage? I have a feeling Shanahan wants to go internal and that will be Nick Sorenson IMHO.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
I think (but I also forget things now) that, while hirings get leaked and reported via media sources, the Rams (in recent years) have waited and announced the majority of the hirings at one time.

With the Combine less than two weeks away; and Free Agency just a little over three weeks away, my guess would be that most of the important hires are in-place or being finalized.
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In years past they've announced all the position coach and assistants hirings at one time only really putting the bigger hires out individually.
 
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I love the NFL off-season. Combine is coming-up. 2024 League Year and Free Agency right after that.

There is a quick dismantling of rosters, followed by a slow rebuild. Cap decisions. Strategy. It's fun to follow.
 
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PARAM said:
I saw this a couple of days ago.....from SB Nation

"There has been a lot of coaching news in the NFC West this week. Not only are the Seattle Seahawks rebuilding the staff from top-to-bottom under Pete Carroll successor Mike Macdonald, but the San Francisco 49ers and Los Angeles Rams have a lot of work left to do too. The 49ers fired defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, necessitating a change at arguably the second-most important coaching job on the entire team, while the Rams lost yet another assistant coach to a promotion within the league.

For the second time in three years, the Seahawks poached an offensive assistant to help call plays in Seattle.

There’s no doubt about it: Not only does McVay have the Super Bowl championship that Shanahan craves and can’t achieve, he’s also doing a lot more for his assistants and for that reason will likely continue to outbid his divisional buddy for the top candidates. They know it, we know it, it is far better to get a job with the Rams under McVay than to get a job with the Niners under Shanahan.

As I wrote before the Super Bowl, McVay’s coaching tree is ridiculously more expansive than Shanahan’s

Shanahan's head coaching tree: Robert Saleh (Jets), Mike McDaniel (Dolphins), DeMeco Ryans (Texans)

McVay’s head coaching tree: Matt LaFleur (Packers), Zac Taylor (Bengals), Brandon Staley (Chargers*), Kevin O’Connell (Vikings), Raheem Morris (Falcons)

Then there’s coordinators:

Shanahan’s coordinator tree: Mike LaFleur (Rams OC), Bobby Slowik (Texans OC), Klint Kubiak (Saints OC)

McVay’s coordinator tree: Joe Barry (Packers DC*), Ejiro Evero (Panthers DC), Shane Waldron (Bears OC), Liam Coen (Bucs OC), Wes Phillips (Vikings OC), Thomas Brown (Bears passing game coordinator), Jimmy Lake (Falcons DC), Zac Robinson (Falcons OC), Jake Peetz (Seahawks passing game coordinator), Jeremy Springer (Patriots special teams coordinator)

McVay’s tree grows so quick, I may have even missed a name in there somewhere.

Yes, there are times when McVay has to move on from a coach, which was the case a year ago after L.A. struggled to the tune of 5-12. He fired offensive coordinator Liam Coen, offensive line coach Kevin Carberry, special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis, and running backs coach Ra’Shaad Samples, among others.

And yet, one year later, Coen is back in the NFL set to call plays with the Buccaneers in their hopes to retain Baker Mayfield at quarterback. Carberry is now Tampa Bay’s offensive line coach.

And their replacements, like offensive line coach Ryan Wendell, seem to be quick on the rise. Wendell seems to be the best pickup of 2023 as the offensive line vastly surpassed expectations, but then you can’t discount the impact that Mike LaFleur has had on the offense since replacing Coen and he could be the next to become a head coach. (Although technically he would be off of both trees.)

Open coaching jobs on the Rams right now would include quarterbacks, passing game coordinator, linebackers, and then McVay has some options including assistant head coach, run game coordinator, and various assistants at certain positions. Where would you want to be, under McVay where coaches keep getting promoted or under Shanahan right after he fired a defensive coordinator who had a reasonably good defense.

(I don’t want to imply that Steve Wilks was the third-best defensive coordinator in the NFL just because the 49ers ranked third in points allowed because that’s not fair, but coaches are certainly going to look at that and wonder if he did as good of a job as anyone could have.)

Going 12-5 and being considered the most complete team in the NFC, if not the NFL, the 49ers had zero coaches promoted to head coach in the NFL. In fact, Wilks and assistant head coach Anthony Lynn barely had a look during the interviews. Shanahan is solely credited for offensive success. Kubiak was the only assistant promoted. Quarterbacks coach Brian Griese only got looked at by a couple of teams and wasn’t promoted anywhere.

Meanwhile, the Rams went a respectable and surprising 10-7, were knocked out in the wild card round by the Lions, but produced a head coach (Morris), four new coordinators (Lake, Robinson, Peetz, Springer), Eric Henderson became the co-defensive coordinator at USC, and technically Chris Shula became a defensive coordinator too because McVay promoted him to replace Morris.

McVay or Shanahan?

Whether measuring by Super Bowl wins or coaching wins, there can only be one obvious answer."

>>>>>>FWIW, he left out Thomas Brown, who was hired as Carolina's OC last off season. And Jedd Fisch who was head coach at U of Arizona, now U of Washington.
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With the annual poaching McVay basically has to compete against himself like no other coach. As McVayness spreads around the league, he has to continually exceed and have answers for it, which can't be an easy task.
 
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LARAMSinFeb. said:
With the annual poaching McVay basically has to compete against himself like no other coach. As McVayness spreads around the league, he has to continually exceed and have answers for it, which can't be an easy task.
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No, it isn't easy. But look at the guys he's found due to departures. Staley. Wendell. O'Connell. Morris. Gould. Robinson. Thomas Brown. And the list just keeps growing. Hell he might be as talented at finding assistants as he is at designing offenses. It certainly doesn't hurt to know being a McVay assistant coach is a stepping stone to bigger and more profitable opportunities.
 
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I love the NFL off-season. Combine is coming-up. 2024 League Year and Free Agency right after that.

There is a quick dismantling of rosters, followed by a slow rebuild. Cap decisions. Strategy. It's fun to follow.
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some boring weeks tho
 
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The problem I had with Raheem was how he didn't play to his roster's strength.

If you are going to play a relatively passive secondary, in a cover 2 or cover 3, and play a Fangio style front 7 you aren't going to get much QB pressure. We saw that even in 2021. Raheem had to switch to a one gap front and play more aggressively with his secondary to get stops. That legitimately raised the question of why not play that way on every down.

The key to a Fangio front is having a legitimate 2 gap NT. The Rams used Turner and Brown who both are better suited to play a IT, not a 0T. This DL roster can get pressure more frequently by playing a one gap penetration style scheme. It's how Donald and Turner are best played. All this "reading" slows the DL down and takes away their aggression. Turn the dogs loose on every down. Don't concede early down passing by focusing on stopping an assumed early down run play on every series.

The reason I can see them not focusing upon an Edge early in this draft is because I think we will see Donald playing Edge more often. I think Turner has proved he can be a very good 3T. This will give them a front of Donald, Brown, Turner, and Young. That's a pretty good front if you play a one gap scheme. Relying upon Jones and whoever they decide to play next to him on covering the inside gaps should be enough to control early down inside runs. It wouldn't surprise me if they moved Mathis, Desjuan Johnson or Hoecht to ILB. All three IMO play better inside than outside. They would bring size and strength inside. I like Rozeboom but IMO he's a good rotational talent not a starting ILB. They need more "beef" inside next to Jones. Mathis showed he can play well inside, especially as an early down run stopper in college.

I can see Donald becoming more situational in how he's used this season.

They should draft a CB on the second day but sign Witherspoon to be a bridge starter for a year or two. They have their two starting safeties in Lake and Yeast but they will need depth as they probably don't extend Fuller.

DK's actual long speed looks to be closer to 4.6 but that is too slow to play boundary CB. If they want to move him to a #3 safety he would have value there in a zone concept where he can play downhill most of the time. Especially on a compressed field when they are backed up inside the red zone.

Shelley was played outside at times under Morris. IMO he's strictly a SCB and in that role he's probably their best option. This year will be a make or break year for Durant. He needs to show more consistency in his technique growth. He has the athleticism to be a good boundary CB. Tomlinson is too undersized to play boundary. His best bet to being one of the primary CBs would be to learn from Shelley how to play SCB which in reality is the toughest of all 3 CB positions to play.

Shula has a good core of talent to build upon. He simply needs to do a better job than Morris in identifying their strengths and playing to them. Not everyone is plug-n-play where you need them. Play to their strengths and in doing so you maximize their usage. Again I don't care what base scheme they play as long as it's played aggressively no matter what the field position is. Every time the defense forces a punt that is stealing a possession for the offense. That is how you win consistently with this team. The Ram offense has shown it can be very good and with Sean's improved scheme, he can better control the flow and in doing so the clock.
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Just a question- Raheem & The Rams win a SuperBowl in 2021 & your saying we saw what happened? HECK YEA !!

Then you question the DC style The Rams ran & The DC himself got fired twice since then.Wht was that.

Add Raheem Morris kept his job & just got hired as The Head Coach of the Falcons!!

My math isn’t adding up well.
 
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He's DAMN solid. And his QB this year is the son of former Rams TE Anthony Becht.
 
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Memento said:
At least it isn't any of Iowa's offensive coaches (sorry, @ottoman89 , but the Hawkeyes were awful offensively all year). Iowa State, I trust.
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No reason to be sorry my brother! That's why I want all the Hawkeye defenders and only right ends lol!
 
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I really like the Offensive coaching additions of Streicher, Scheelhaase and Ragone.

Streicher is reported to be a well thought of, impressive young mind, has worked under Vrabel and might be a positive and innovative voice in McVay's ear. Scheelhaase is reported to be a fast-rising young coach with a solid college playing and coaching background. Ragone was an NFL QB and has been in coaching for some time but is still just 44; plus he has NFL offensive coordinator experience.

Seems like a nice blend of youth, experience and potential, with some real diversity.

Of course, these are just media reports but I am trying to be optimistic, like my friend @PARAM.

Now, hoping there are one or two quality defensive additions, to go along with DL-coach Giff Smith.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
I really like the Offensive coaching additions of Streicher, Scheelhaase and Ragone.

Now, hoping there are one or two quality defensive additions, to go along with DL-coach Giff Smith.
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We still need a LB coach right? Really hope we get a good one.
 
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PARAM said:
We still need a LB coach right? Really hope we get a good one.
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Maybe.

Chris Beake coached the Secondary last year but was the Inside-LB-coach the year before; and they have Joe Coniglio who was the OLB-coach last year. McVay likes to move coaches around, so they could be the primary LB coaches.

Regardless, the Rams have to add at least one more defensive position coach, and designate someone as the Pass-Rush-Coordinator (Shula also had that title last year); plus, probably add a couple low-level assistants to replace K.J. Black and Nick Jones,
 
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