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Miklasz: Rams’ On-Field Product Isn’t Good Enough for Los Angeles

Listen to Bernie
Blah blah blah blah...parting shots....blah blah....parting shots. Didn't say one word here about the fans in the Lou, which is the ONLY tragedy here.
Who's Bitter Bernie going to dump and rag on now?
 

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I truly feel sorry for the St-Louis fans out there and no one should ever question their fandom, hope you'll heal of this wound and are able to enjoy this great sport at its fullest again somewhere in the near future. I've flown to St-Louis 4 times in the last 3 years and had a blast each and every time. The Seattle game this past year will remain one of the best experiences of my life.

I quess I will have to fly a little bit further if I want to see the rams in their hometown again.
 

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Stan kronke has apparently decided on a helmet change
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, one of the infinitely wise leaders of the National Football League.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry smh.

EDIT:
Not sure why the tweet isn't showing up, but it says:
Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch
Steve Ross: "Everybody won."
Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch
Asked if the St. Louis fans won tonight, Steve Ross said: "Well, somebody has to lose."
 

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There will never be football in this city again. "Must exhaust all options." freaking hilarious.Over 400 million public dollars raised in under a year and every hurdle thrown at us hurdled in an extraordinarily short time.

I don't think that is true, User. I think the NFL recognizes the city of STL is a future partner, they just do not rank above LA in terms of importance to the league. This is a business, and their television contract is going to boom with the LA coverage they now have. The overall financial health of the league is more important than anything else.

I mentioned this to a bud of mine who is a Raiders fan over a year ago... Neither Davis nor Spanos had the money or expertise to bring the NFL back to LA. It was always going to be Stan because he has both those things and when he put together that over-the-top stadium plan it was game over.

But again, don't think the NFL does not recognize how quickly the city almost cobbled together a plan on the waterfront. IMO at least.
 

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As A 52 year old LA native and Ram fan I can not be clear enough on how much empathy and sadness I have for all my friends and board mates in St Louis. I truly have not yet acknowledged the excitement and opportunity this brings me and my family to view them close by as my heart feels for those affected.
As I did 20 something years ago you will most likely mend and root for what is a deeper connection than you may know.
Hit me up when you head west to watch us crush the water hoarding No Cals and I will show you my town.


Water hoarding Nor Cals? You can call the 9ers anything you want, but Water hoarding Nor Cals? Heh. We haven't had any rain, but we still send OUR water down to you. You should be very thankful as you don't get any water from anywhere but us!

Heh. Sorry... that was funny.

Can't wait to meet up with you!
 

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Water hoarding Nor Cals? You can call the 9ers anything you want, but Water hoarding Nor Cals? Heh. We haven't had any rain, but we still send OUR water down to you. You should be very thankful as you don't get any water from anywhere but us!

Heh. Sorry... that was funny.

Can't wait to meet up with you!
Hell yeah can't wait to get a group together.
The water hoarding No Cal thing is a blast from the Days of the old LA Rams vs The Niners. no disrespect intended (as you know) I am grateful for my morning shower. Trying to bring a smile to my brothers in the Lou
 

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I heard some say that the Carson recommendation was to apply pressure on Stan to give a good deal to Spanos... They did a secret vote and that allowed some vocal Carson supporters to jump over to Inglewood, and that probably completely changed the game.. Obviously those who felt that Carson had the edge vastly overestimated their support. Inglewood made better sense financially, but I thought the pull that Spanos had was significant. A few reporters mentioned that Spanos (Fabiani) were really good about putting out PR hits to make it seem like they were in the lead.

It was a fascinating process, the end result equally so.
 

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Hell yeah can't wait to get a group together.
The water hoarding No Cal thing is a blast from the Days of the old LA Rams vs The Niners. no disrespect intended (as you know) I am grateful for my morning shower. Trying to bring a smile to my brothers in the Lou
Sounds like a line from the old Jim Rome days on the mighty 690....his terms for NorCal teams were good stuff. Battery chuckers etc. Saw him at a Nationsl Sports Grill venue...dude is extremely short, but was good back in the day.
 

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David Hunn of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch spent more than a year covering and reporting on the Los Angeles relocation saga. He was in Houston Tuesday when the NFL approved and announced the Rams’ relocation to Los Angeles. Hunn joined The Ryan Kelley Morning After on Wednesday to discuss the Rams leaving and the possibility of St. Louis getting another NFL team.

Listen to Hunn Interview

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How did it go from the committee reccomending Carson 5-1, to Inglewood getting a 30-2 vote?

"I have no idea. I asked that very question in the press conference...Bob McNair got up to answer...and I cannot tell you what he said. It was one of those answers that didn't answer. I tried to follow up...and even then he didn't really answer. It was a frustrating moment for me. I still don't know."

What's your gut feeling on what happened?

"I do think the reason is probably pretty straightforward. They weren't going to get the deal done. It wasn't going to happen otherwise. I didn't know...how much the other owners liked Kroenke's plan. I talked to some insiders after the meetings ended...and they said the ownership came in just enthralled by the majesty of Kroenke's Inglewood plan. And that's what won them over. The LA Committee, who's dug into this for a year, made the recommendation for the Carson plan...and it didn't matter."
 

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Rams' move to Los Angeles rekindles rivalry for 49ers
By Paul Gutierrez

http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francis...eles-rekindles-norcal-socal-rivalry-for-49ers

The St. Louis Rams receiving permission to move to Los Angeles in time for the 2016 NFL season rekindles that classic California rivalry -- Bay Area vs. Los Angeles.

You see and hear it when the San Francisco Giants face the Los Angeles Dodgers. Or when the Golden State Warriors play the Los Angeles Clippers and/or Lakers. Or even when the San Jose Sharks hit the ice against the Los Angeles Kings.

It hasn't really been a thing in the NFL, though, since the Rams bolted Anaheim for St. Louis in 1995, leaving the San Francisco 49ers without an L.A. adversary for 20-plus years. (The matchups with San Diego just don’t have the same feel to them.)

Or, as Niners receiver Torrey Smith tweeted Tuesday night:

Pretty cool that the Rams are coming to LA....now the NFC West makes sense to me.

Faithful, get your “Beat L.A.” chants in order, because the last time the Rams had “Los Angeles” in their name, in the 1994 season, the 49ers won the Super Bowl. It is their most recent Lombardi Trophy.

Since the Rams moved to St. Louis, the 49ers are 25-16-1 against them in 42 meetings. The Niners were 11-10 in St. Louis.

The 49ers’ driest stretch against the Rams came from 1999 through 2004, when they went a combined 2-10 against them, including 0-6 in St. Louis.

In fact, the Niners have a losing record against the Rams when they’ve called Los Angeles home, going 40-48-2 versus the L.A. Rams.

None of that, though, could have been on Niners CEO Jed York’s mind this week as he attended the NFL owners relocation meetings in Houston, right?

“In general, I’m in favor of teams being in markets that work,” York, who was on the stadium committee, said last week when asked if he was in favor of a team moving to Southern California.

“And, if you can prove that Los Angeles works and that the existing markets are tough and they’re not workable for long-term stadium deals, then I think you have to do what’s best for the overall league. But, you have to exhaust every effort possible to make sure that teams are staying in their own markets.”

Unless, of course, it reawakens that old S.F.-L.A. rivalry.
 

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Five things to know about Rams owner Stan Kroenke
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...-things-to-know-about-rams-owner-stan-kroenke

HOUSTON -- When it comes to the NFL returning to Los Angeles, turns out that Rams owner Stan Kroenke was the chosen one.

The league's owners confirmed as much Tuesday when they approved Kroenke's relocation to Los Angeles and his planned Inglewood stadium project. For those unfamiliar with the man who brought football back to Los Angeles, here's five things you should know.

1. He's had a home in the LA area for years: While it's pretty well known that Kroenke has longstanding ties to the midwest, he made it a point to let the world know that he's maintained a home in the Los Angeles area for more than 20 years. That residence is actually in Malibu, not far from where the Rams practiced with the Dallas Cowboys in Oxnard last summer. Kroenke told a story Tuesday about an employee's mother seeing a fan in a Rams hat in the Los Angeles area who said the Rams returning to Los Angeles would be the best week of his life.

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Stan Kroenke is the NFL's second-richest owner, valued at $7.7 billion as of Tuesday.
2. He's the NFL's second-wealthiest owner: According to Forbes, Kroenke is worth $7.7 billion as of Tuesday. But that number is only expected to grow as the value of his team does upon arrival in Los Angeles. That total places Kroenke second on Forbes' list of the wealthiest owners and No. 63 on the list of richest Americans as of last September. Kroenke has made his wealth developing strip malls all over the country but also has long made a habit of collecting sports properties. Kroenke is the owner of the Colorado Avalanche, Denver Nuggets, Major League Soccer's Colorado Rapids and the Colorado Mammoth of the National Lacrosse League. He is also the majority stakeholder in Arsenal FC soccer club. His holdings also include everything from media entities to wineries.

3. Although he's moving to LA, his Missouri roots run deep: Kroenke was born in tiny Cole Camp, a small town in central Missouri, and was named after two legendary St. Louis Cardinals baseball players, Stan Musial and Enos Slaughter. Kroenke's central Missouri ties only grew further when he went to college at the University of Missouri-Columbia, where he earned a bachelors degree and a masters of business administration. Kroenke has long owned a home in Columbia and his son, Josh, played basketball for the Tigers.

4. He doesn't speak much to the public: When Kroenke addressed the media here on Tuesday night, it was the first time he spoke publicly about his football team since the media conference to announce the hiring of coach Jeff Fisher in 2012. Kroenke has earned the moniker "Silent Stan" for his reclusive approach to media appearances, only speaking when he absolutely has to. As the NFL's leader of the charge back to Los Angeles, it's fair to wonder if Kroenke will now step into the spotlight on a more regular basis.

5. He's married to the daughter of Wal-Mart co-founder Bud Walton: Kroenke met his future wife on a ski trip to Aspen, Colorado, in 1971. It just so happened to turn out that his new love interest was Ann Walton, the daughter of Wal-Mart co-founder Bud Walton. To Kroenke, she was a nursing student at his college. They married three years later. Today, the Kroenkes are worth about $12 billion combined.
 

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ESPN's Jemele Hill: Why do you need two teams in L.A.?

Jemele Hill explains why she would like to see the Chargers and Raiders to stay in their respective cities and not move to Los Angeles. (1:08)

Watch Hill Talk LA Relocation
 

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Even after NFL approval, traveling Rams have a lot to prove in Los Angeles
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...eling-rams-have-a-lot-to-prove-in-los-angeles

HOUSTON -- With a glimmer in his eye and excitement in his voice, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announced Tuesday night that the Rams will return to Los Angeles to build Stan Kroenke's $1.86 billion stadium in Inglewood.

"This was an opportunity for the ownership to re-enter into the Los Angeles market, returning the Rams to their home market with a project that we think is going to change not just NFL stadiums and NFL complexes, but I think sports complexes around the world," Goodell said Tuesday. "I think this is going to be one of the greatest complexes in the world. It's part of Stan's vision and I think the ownership supported that."

The announcement didn't come as much of a surprise for anyone paying attention. Really, it shouldn't have been much of a surprise for those not paying attention, either. This wasn't a choice about which team or teams deserved to take over the league's second-largest market. This was a choice almost exclusively based on which owner had the financial wherewithal to make all of the league's Los Angeles dreams a reality.

Among the NFL's 32 owners, only Seattle's Paul Allen has pockets deeper than Kroenke's -- but the Seahawks aren't looking to move. The San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders are. When considering Chargers owner Dean Spanos or Raiders owner Mark Davis, or a combination of the two, it was no contest: Kroenke and Inglewood were the runaway winners.

One needs only to listen to Goodell's words about the Inglewood project to understand why.

"It's more than just a stadium," he said. "It's a project and an entertainment complex that we believe will be responsive to the kind of things we need to be successful with our fans in the Los Angeles market."

Sure, it didn't hurt that the Rams, who called Los Angeles home from 1946 to 1994, have a built-in fan base that has been longing for their team to return. But the biggest reason Kroenke emerged victorious is this: He can write the biggest check.

"St. Louis is a fabulous city in a fabulous state, and certainly they're an NFL city, it's just that Stan Kroenke is in an exceptional situation and he has great sports interests and great willingness to put serious resources toward his enthusiasm," Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "Those are called angels in the NFL. He will be such a face of that franchise, and what he's done just by the sheer fact that he's willing to commit several billion, not just the cost of the stadium, but the cost of the whole development around it. And it's not on paper. It's not options. This is the real deal. That really ruled the day in the NFL, and it should rule the day."

Undoubtedly, the Inglewood project has all the makings of a complex on par with or better than any sports and entertainment venue anywhere in the world. But here's where the ownership might have erred in its view of Kroenke's planned palace: To really be successful for the long haul in Los Angeles, the Rams can't simply just show up.

Like any sport in any market, the success of the NFL in Los Angeles will be tied to its success on the field. Kroenke's track record as a sports owner -- particularly in the NFL, where his Rams have gone 36-59-1 since he became majority owner in 2010 -- doesn't offer nearly as much hope to be Hollywood's next smashing success as his wallet might.

The Rams own the NFL's longest streak of consecutive losing seasons (nine) and haven't been to the playoffs since after the 2004 season. Adding to that equation is a metropolitan area that already is home to two NBA teams, two MLB teams, two NHL teams and potentially another NFL team -- not to mention two major college sports programs (USC and UCLA). And Kroenke thought the St. Louis Cardinals offered stiff competition for ticket sales and sponsorships?

Los Angeles not only demands a winner in exchange for its dollars, it also wants to be entertained. It is the home of the "Showtime" Lakers of yesteryear and the "Lob City" Clippers of today. Upon the Rams' return, it's important to note that the "Greatest Show on Turf" isn't walking through that door.

Make no mistake, Kroenke isn't going to lose on this deal. The Rams will likely be a hot ticket in town upon returning to Los Angeles. Nostalgia and curiosity could form the perfect storm for a few years, even if the team doesn't win, and plenty of people will show up for what could be the NFL's first red-carpet event for a football game when the Inglewood stadium opens in 2019.

That stadium will almost certainly land Final Fours and college football championship games and other major events. But the NFL approved Kroenke because it believes he gives it the best chance to enjoy sustained NFL prosperity in the City of Angels.

"The ownership I think personally believes that the project at Hollywood Park was the kind of signature project that is going to help make us successful in Los Angeles for the long term," Goodell said.

The Rams are now property of Los Angeles, but they might as well bring their former home's state motto with them in their 1,840-mile move to Inglewood. The NFL told us Tuesday that the Rams are what's best for Los Angeles long term. Now it's time to show us.
 

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Just to put it out there, if anyone really wants to see the woodchipper, I'll put you up for free. Besides, we also have a Stevie Ray Vaughn walk of fame autograph and imprint. And that's way more cool.
One of my biggest musical regrets is deciding that we shouldn't spend the money on tickets to see Stevie and Joe Cocker in concert together two weeks before Stevie died. He is on of my all time favorites and it kills me to this day that I didn't go see him.
 

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Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith share their thoughts on if football will be able to succeed in Los Angeles, and what would need to happen in order for it to gain traction. Bayless doesn’t think there should be 2 teams in L.A. (2:18)

Watch Bayless and Smith Talk LA Market
 

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Gotta' say, pretty pleased about this. It's hard to describe how it'll feel to see them in the coliseum again - where I saw them for the first time 48 years ago.
Also, 11 guaranteed 1:00 pm games - (maybe more, depending on the Sun, Mon and Thurs nite schedules) - they'll be playing on grass, no long road trips to play division rivals,
and most likely a a change back to (one of) their old uniforms. Goes without saying I know how y'all feel in St Louis, but I hope you stay.
 

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So, in conclusion, it may remove LA from the extortion roulette wheel the NFL owners used to use, but it just put St Louis on it (again, if St. Louis wants to be on it) in addition to San Antonio.
I'm actually not sure it does put LA out of the leverage position. If SD and Oak put together plans to keep their teams in light of the additional $100 million, the ability for the Inglewood stadium to house a second team carries the possibly greater cache that a team could move any time and not have to play in a temporary venue.

I would agree however that St Louis and San Antonio hold the best option as it sits.
 

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Blah blah blah blah...parting shots....blah blah....parting shots. Didn't say one word here about the fans in the Lou, which is the ONLY tragedy here.
Who's Bitter Bernie going to dump and rag on now?
Wow, I really didn't see that light at the end of the tunnel coming :)
 

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Shout out to all my St Louis Ramily. This must be horrible for you. To all my LA Ramily, keep them in your thoughts and remember how you felt when it happened to you.
Still hope to see you all in the UK this year
I'm setting the bar high for everyone this year. Home opener in LA and a trip to London this season.
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