Rams 2023 coaching changes

[Elmgrovegnome]

WOW Going to extremes to play the victim that's impressive. I never said anything you just replied to me about your opinions. You've been arguing that Kromer wasn't a good OL coach and under him our OL wasn't good. Your words your arguments not me putting words in your mouth.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yeah, that's best.

He watches only once and sees all he needs to see with the OL

Or

He watches twice, sometimes 3 times to focus on the OL/DL

I guess the truth depends on who's involved in the discussion and what viewpoint they bring.

I know what I saw re-watching the games and that's enough for me. Let's see what the guys who really know what's going on decide to do.

Some people just like to twist words to fit their argument.

I watch the original game. Then that week I watch two more times.

You are trying to make it sound like I said something different. You had the problem figuring it out ( no idea why since a pre schooler knows what that means) and you put your foot in your mouth claiming Noteboom is a stud. Now you are redirecting.

On top of that you are now complaining to another person about me instead of addressing me directly. Seems like a cowards way around things.

We can put each other on ignore. I had you on it for over a year and just took you off. Now I recall why I did it originally.

 

[OldSchool]

Some people just like to twist words to fit their argument.

I watch the original game. Then that week I watch two more times.

You are trying to make it sound like I said something different. You had the problem figuring it out ( no idea why since a pre schooler knows what that means) and you put your foot in your mouth claiming Noteboom is a stud. Now you are redirecting.

On top of that you are now complaining to another person about me instead of addressing me directly. Seems like a cowards way around things.

We can put each other on ignore. I had you on it for over a year and just took you off. Now I recall why I did it originally.

You've literally been debating with anybody who says the OL got better when Kromer joined or that he did a good job for several pages. Yet we're twisting your words? Ever since I posted we were close to hiring his assistant and people came in support of him partly because of that relationship to Kromer you've been telling everybody that Kromer wasn't as good as we're saying and his OL wasn't either. Your words not ours not us twisting what you say.

 

[PhillyRam]

Yes, we need younger, stronger, healthier, more talented Olinemen. Quit going cheap, Les, and no more toy WR's.

Our oldest OL didn't get hurt...the young guys did.

 

[Loyal]

Our oldest OL didn't get hurt...the young guys did.

There are more adjectives in there besides "younger."

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You've literally been debating with anybody who says the OL got better when Kromer joined or that he did a good job for several pages. Yet we're twisting your words? Ever since I posted we were close to hiring his assistant and people came in support of him partly because of that relationship to Kromer you've been telling everybody that Kromer wasn't as good as we're saying and his OL wasn't either. Your words not ours not us twisting what you say.

I literally said he’s an average Oline coach. In 2017 it looked great. Once teams learned how to attack McVays offense it looked bad. The real holes showed up. NFL defensive coaches find the weak spots. In 2019 both Noteboom and Allen combined played poorly under Kromer. Blythe has never been good. I don’t see the miracles that anyone is talking about. I acknowledged that he did well with Edwards. So you read too much into it. I don’t hate Kromer. I don’t think he was no good. I even said he was better than Carberry. I’ll add Boudreaux and Loney to that list of coaches he was better than. But that does not mean He was really good. He’s average.

You exaggerated again just now to support your argument. I disagreed with praise from one person who I felt gave Kromer too much credit. I also disagreed with another who thinks Noteboom is a stud. I added you because you were mocking me indirectly. That’s two about that I disagreed with on Kromer.

 

[RocknRam29]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1624774071681695744

 

[ottoman89]

Why can't our bad coaches get poached? Lol

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1624774071681695744

No third round comp pick for a coach going to OC is there?

 

[dieterbrock]

No third round comp pick for a coach going to OC is there?

No
Only for Head coach or primary executive

 

[thirteen28]

You've literally been debating with anybody who says the OL got better when Kromer joined or that he did a good job for several pages. Yet we're twisting your words? Ever since I posted we were close to hiring his assistant and people came in support of him partly because of that relationship to Kromer you've been telling everybody that Kromer wasn't as good as we're saying and his OL wasn't either. Your words not ours not us twisting what you say.

I'll say Kromer was good until he wasn't. Started out strong for a couple of years, but had trouble integrating the new guys. Not bringing in better talent in the group hampered him though, that's not his fault but more on McSnead.

 

[blackbart]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1624774071681695744

Ugh, we saw what happened in the RB Room when Brown wasn’t involved. McVay tried letting Brown pick the new guy last year and that was a disaster. Filling that hole will be worrisome

 

[Merlin]

The worried party should be anyone who hires Brown to be OC.

 

[PressureD41]

I wonder were John Benton OL coach is planning to coach next season? Rams need this guy. If Thomas leaves maybe a OL run game coaching gig in LA opens up for Benton to accept?

 

[fanotodd]

Absolutely not. Kromer had the OL playing very well. He utilized Jamon Brown, who started 14 games the previous 2 seasons (at G & T) and he played well in the 2017 season. Then in 2018 he replaced him with Blythe, starter of 1 G in his career to that point and he was servicable....at 2 positions. Didn't we make the SB? In 2019 he had Noteboom and Allen playing well (28 PPG on offense the first 5 weeks) prior to JNs injury. And then 3 weeks later when Allen and Big Rob went down in week 9, he coached up Edwards, Corbett and believe it or not Evans. In fact, at that time, Evans was considered to have a brighter future than the other two. We did finish 9-7 that season. A lot better than the 5-12 this year but of course we had 5 times the amount of injuries in 2022.

See the problem with Noteboom and Allen is their injuries. But some fans allow that to cloud their judgement of their actual talent. I have heard fans say how bad the OL played early in the season, particularly Noteboom. And I read some fans quoting PFF stats like "Noteboom leads the league in sack and pressures allowed". But upon review.....rewatching every game including the Buffalo game I call BS. Those numbers were bogus. The dude is a stud at LT. Quick kick step, balance, good punch, etc. I watched him handle Bosa with ease. I watched him handle 4 guys on the Cowboy DL too....they moved Parsons opposite Havenstein after 4 tries vs Noteboom because he couldn't get more than a yard into the backfield. The problem I have is I don't watch that part of the game when the game is live so I don't dispute those misconceptions until I've rewatched the games and focused on the player (or players) in question.

I don't know what they plan on doing in 2023 but I wouldn't be shocked if nothing changed on the OL. I like Allen at C but his knees are shot. You can't realistically rely on a guy who needs to have them drained every other week. Noteboom? He should be the LT and he'll probably be ready in time for camp. Jackson playing along side him would give the Rams a very good left side of the line. If Shelton doesn't opt out and starts at C, with Anchrum or Bruss at RG, the weak link in the OL will be Havenstein. He gets beat often in pass pro. But we'll see. It could be they go a different direction but I don't expect it. Drafting a C? Absolutely. How high? I don't know.

But I would ask anybody who thinks...expounds....repeats what they hear about Noteboom not being any good to rewatch the game and focus just on him.

I have always felt Noteboom proved himself at LT. He was drafted to be big Whit’s replacement and got plenty of practice reps and some legit game reps accordingly. He was the guy the Rams HAD to re-sign after the SB. It was his time. Based on his performances, I had no issue with that.
…but the injuries.

He is suited to be a backup but simply cannot be relied upon to start week in and week out.

In another thread I didn’t even list him as a member of my ideal OL moving forward because I wasn’t sure when he’d be ready. You say opening day? That changes things. Kicking Jackson inside suddenly makes the OL look a lot better.
But for how long?

The Rams have Noteboom signed to a large contract. They will have to keep their fingers crossed that he can hold up. That’s a tall order though, proven his track record.

 

[Corbin]

@ROD can we get back and focus on the subject at hand on how our DC as averaged a 22 ranked defense throughout his HC and DC career please?

And how we can get a 3rd for him being the Colts HC?

 

[PARAM]

I have always felt Noteboom proved himself at LT. He was drafted to be big Whit’s replacement and got plenty of practice reps and some legit game reps accordingly. He was the guy the Rams HAD to re-sign after the SB. It was his time. Based on his performances, I had no issue with that.
…but the injuries.

He is suited to be a backup but simply cannot be relied upon to start week in and week out.

In another thread I didn’t even list him as a member of my ideal OL moving forward because I wasn’t sure when he’d be ready. You say opening day? That changes things. Kicking Jackson inside suddenly makes the OL look a lot better.
But for how long?

The Rams have Noteboom signed to a large contract. They will have to keep their fingers crossed that he can hold up. That’s a tall order though, proven his track record.

The injuries are a concern. But I have a long memory and can recall when Saffold would be injured because our center farted. He turned his career around. However, I've been corrected by some fans saying, "but those were shoulder injuries" like chronic injuries are limited to the lower half. The recovery time is anywhere from 8 to 10 months. So he should be ready June to August. We'll see.

 

[ottoman89]

The injuries are a concern. But I have a long memory and can recall when Saffold would be injured because our center farted. He turned his career around. However, I've been corrected by some fans saying, "but those were shoulder injuries" like chronic injuries are limited to the lower half. The recovery time is anywhere from 8 to 10 months. So he should be ready June to August. We'll see.

What sucks is our LT, LG, C and RG are usually injured lol

 

[Corbin]

What sucks is our LT, LG, C and RG are usually injured lol

Hence why we need to draft many O Linemen and d linemen this coming draft baby!

 

[RocknRam29]

View: https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1625638048552873984