Raheem to ATL

[Merlin]

I seriously doubt Morris will try to poach guys McVay doesn't want him to take. He's not gonna pull a Staley. Him and McVay are boys.

 

[JYB]

Right?
Seems like the odd man out at this point.
Maybe he wanted more money and power than ATL were willing to part with.

Yeah, Rich McKay wanted no part of a power struggle. He's happy being subpar, so long as he's in charge.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah, Rich McKay wanted no part of a power struggle. He's happy being subpar, so long as he's in charge.

He's no longer in charge. He doesn't run football operations anymore thats the GM now

 

[Dodgersrf]

Yeah, Rich McKay wanted no part of a power struggle. He's happy being subpar, so long as he's in charge.

I think there better off with Morris and a GM, then Cheat filling both positions. (Which I’m sure Cheat wanted)

It didn’t work for Parcells and it doesn’t work with Cheat.

 

[oldnotdead]

The assumption in the media is that Pleasant will be leaving with Morris. That's an interesting perspective so it would mean the Rams will be bringing in someone from outside the organization. Their interest in Durde is also interesting. Working under Quinn he got a very good look at how Quinn disguises his basic coverages. Not sure how that would play with their current roster.

McVay loves to stick with people he knows so Staley is definitely going to be in the mix. Though again with the current roster it's hard to assess his implementation with the current personnel. That said I think the safeties are better than when Staley was DC and of course there is no Ramsey. But Durant has potential and I think they are going to use a second day pick on a CB.

There are a lot of other possibilities and the Rams would be a draw for coaches on the rise. Large market with an outstanding HC and GM would make it hard for an available DC not to want to come here. A friend of mine and I were talking football and he mentioned Mike Pettine and we both agreed that his aggressiveness is something we both liked. We worried about his reliance upon man coverage if you don't have the CBs for it but the defense was predicated upon pressure up front not forcing the DBs to cover forever. He used a lot of cover 3 as well if I remember correctly.

It will be interesting to see who McVay goes with as the new DC.

 

[OldSchool]

Falcons phase out Rich McKay -- again -- as Raheem Morris comes on board as coach

When the Atlanta Falcons began their search for a new head coach, Rich McKay was sitting side by side with owner Arthur Blank.

apnews.com

 

[OldSchool]

Hmmmm Jayden Daniels a target here?


View: https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1751057189043593588?s=46&t=fwgmryeTanENut7u28ScCA

 

[Kupped]

The assumption in the media is that Pleasant will be leaving with Morris. That's an interesting perspective so it would mean the Rams will be bringing in someone from outside the organization. Their interest in Durde is also interesting. Working under Quinn he got a very good look at how Quinn disguises his basic coverages. Not sure how that would play with their current roster.

McVay loves to stick with people he knows so Staley is definitely going to be in the mix. Though again with the current roster it's hard to assess his implementation with the current personnel. That said I think the safeties are better than when Staley was DC and of course there is no Ramsey. But Durant has potential and I think they are going to use a second day pick on a CB.

There are a lot of other possibilities and the Rams would be a draw for coaches on the rise. Large market with an outstanding HC and GM would make it hard for an available DC not to want to come here. A friend of mine and I were talking football and he mentioned Mike Pettine and we both agreed that his aggressiveness is something we both liked. We worried about his reliance upon man coverage if you don't have the CBs for it but the defense was predicated upon pressure up front not forcing the DBs to cover forever. He used a lot of cover 3 as well if I remember correctly.

It will be interesting to see who McVay goes with as the new DC.

McVay didn’t know Staley.

 

[Merlin]

He's no longer in charge. He doesn't run football operations anymore thats the GM now

He'll probably fuck up the coffee and croissants.

 

[JimY53]

Their interest in Durde is also interesting. Working under Quinn he got a very good look at how Quinn disguises his basic coverages. Not sure how that would play with their current roster.

It's important to note that Dallas disguises their coverages among the least -- about 78% no disguise--- as we know the Texans do it the least at 83.5% not disguising.

Not saying it is a good thing or a bad thing to play what you show. There are teams all along the spectrum that made the playoffs but Dallas really doesn't disguise its basic coverages.

From Cody Alexander ---

 

[WestCoastRam]

McVay loves to stick with people he knows

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[Corbin]

Raheem Morris as Falcons Coach

It's pretty hilarious. I don't think I found one person so far that is happy for the hire lol

Good luck to them. He’s been below average statistically his whole career. I’d rather them do better than the Aints. ( their rival) in that divisional.

 

[OldSchool]

Good luck to them. He’s been below average statistically his whole career. I’d rather them do better than the Aints. ( their rival) in that divisional.

I saw a very long discussion between 2 fans one a Falcon the other a Steelers fan about what his DC rankings have to do with being a good HC. The success rate of the good or better coordinators at HC isn't exactly stellar. And the success of the mediocre coordinators or the largely unknown ones is about the same with a few outliers that were really good. If Raheem is smart and we know he is he brings in leaders at both coordinators that can and are willing to implement his vision and sit back and be a leader and organizer.

OC and obviously QB are his biggest must hit targets though. Most DC's that succeed at HC hit the QB position (most lets not look at Staley ) Heck look at Wade, nobody will argue his DC greatness. He had Doug Flutie and Rob Johnson in Buffalo. Dallas he had Romo and was largely successful until a terrible start that last year.

 

[dieterbrock]

Most DC's that succeed at HC hit the QB position

Might just be that the DC who have succeeded understood how to cultivate a QB?
A lot goes in to who ultimately is successful, and I think the only true given is that there is no recipe that works

 

[OldSchool]

Might just be that the DC who have succeeded understood how to cultivate a QB?
A lot goes in to who ultimately is successful, and I think the only true given is that there is no recipe that works

I'd say that's part of hitting the QB position honestly.

 

[Corbin]

I saw a very long discussion between 2 fans one a Falcon the other a Steelers fan about what his DC rankings have to do with being a good HC. The success rate of the good or better coordinators at HC isn't exactly stellar. And the success of the mediocre coordinators or the largely unknown ones is about the same with a few outliers that were really good. If Raheem is smart and we know he is he brings in leaders at both coordinators that can and are willing to implement his vision and sit back and be a leader and organizer.

OC and obviously QB are his biggest must hit targets though. Most DC's that succeed at HC hit the QB position (most lets not look at Staley ) Heck look at Wade, nobody will argue his DC greatness. He had Doug Flutie and Rob Johnson in Buffalo. Dallas he had Romo and was largely successful until a terrible start that last year.

100% Great post

I've seen in my own personal life great leaders who weren't great individually but know how to lead, facilitate, and delegate properly and seen rock stars at a particular job but are complete shit as a leader or manager.

Raheem can be highly successful, I just personal think he is flawed in his defensive philosophy and is slow to adapt over all. People can't argue when he left, Tampa and got to Atlanta and when he came to the Rams he keeps trying to run Tampa 2 or variants of it, however in these last 1-2 years I've seen him grow his scheme more than previous and especially this last year.

I personally hope he does well, I like him as a man and person.

They need homeruns with their first 3 picks for sure, and first is getting a legit QB talent.

 

[JimY53]

The success rate of the good or better coordinators at HC isn't exactly stellar.

I don't know the numbers but a scouting firm that advises about half the NFL teams did a study and I'm told the top 2 things for successful coaches is maturity and not being committed to a single scheme - offense and defense. There was tons more but that is all I remember -- the top 2.

What you bring up is interesting ... because maybe coordinators, all too often, (1) young and a hot commodity and (2) committed to their scheme -- what was successful ---

Maybe that second point is valid. I never read the full study but it it could be done as far as your point ... look at guys who went of OC or DC and how successful they were and then compare to years of experience as a coord.

 

[Kupped]

100% Great post

I've seen in my own personal life great leaders who weren't great individually but know how to lead, facilitate, and delegate properly and seen rock stars at a particular job but are complete shit as a leader or manager.

Raheem can be highly successful, I just personal think he is flawed in his defensive philosophy and is slow to adapt over all. People can't argue when he left, Tampa and got to Atlanta and when he came to the Rams he keeps trying to run Tampa 2 or variants of it, however in these last 1-2 years I've seen him grow his scheme more than previous and especially this last year.

I personally hope he does well, I like him as a man and person.

They need homeruns with their first 3 picks for sure, and first is getting a legit QB talent.

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I appreciate people see him differently.. but, to me.. one of his biggest strengths is the ability to adapt.
He never ran a fangio scheme.. came in… learned it.. incorporated new players.. and had the defense absolutely kicking ass in the playoffs.
21 had health issues and a lack of a second real edge opposite Floyd… that hurt.
This year? If you listen to guys outside the Rams bubble.. Raheem was fantastic and, “trying cool shit” in the back end.

I think the perception of him is colored strongly by the aesthetics of his defense… not its effectiveness.

Obviously, people around the league think he can coach his ass off.

 

[dieterbrock]

Yeah honestly... we know the value that Raheem has but I didn't think he would get hired in Atlanta because of being there before.

That's exactly why I was convinced they would hire him

 

[Merlin]

They need homeruns with their first 3 picks for sure, and first is getting a legit QB talent.

Yeah Atlanta badly needs a face of the franchise. Teams like them are why I am thinking maybe we see a run on QBs in round 1. Last time I counted the teams ahead of us there were 8ish that I think are in need, so we might get helped out here by seeing guys like Nix, Penix, McCarthy go off the board before us and bump down a player we need.

If it wasn't for the injuries I'd put Penix very high. But this particular year with other QB options there's a good chance he slides a bit, though probably not too far due to QB need in this league. McCarthy I think is a 2nd round talent but he has the title. Nix is a hell of an athlete and fits WCO of which damn near everyone is running it or wants to.

So I'm hoping 6 QBs go off that board before 19. Then we get the 13th ranked non-QB to kick this class off.