Raheem Morris discussion thread

[Tumak61]

Really hope Morris gets the Colts job. His Defense is effective, but so hard to watch without going crazy.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Hardly scientific but…

McVay’s offense has avg each season: 30, 33, 25, 23, 27 and 18ppg this past season.

Morris’ defense allowed 18ppg which would be good enough in every other season with the exception of this most recent year where the points scored fell off a cliff.

An upgrade at DC should always be considered, but to bag on this years D seems near-sighted to me considering the offensive woes.

I mean, Wade’s Super Bowl D in 2018 gave up 24 per game.

 

[Ram Ts]

I like Morris and think that last year was partly due to the offensive issues…and lack of pass rush. Right or wrong. But overall he’s pretty good and I think valuable.

Having said that, I like draft picks better. So due to that dumb rule, I’d love to get two extra 3rd round comp picks.

 

[Merlin]

The way we play defense is definitely a problem vs the Shitters. Those guys can't get underneath throws all day long because Shanny will take them and balance up the run game and beat your ass. You gotta take away the pitch and catch BS.

But our problems extend on offense too. We are way too easy to shut down in our own run game. So both need to be addressed this offseason because the Shitters are the standard now in the division because of these things.

 

[OldSchool]

Not a big Turfshowshittimes but this made me laugh it's so accurate.


View: https://twitter.com/bgrisakDTR/status/1618289886452416512

 

[Tano]

Not a big Turfshowshittimes but this made me laugh it's so accurate.


View: https://twitter.com/bgrisakDTR/status/1618289886452416512

Yeah great defense by Morris this year

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris

So - Morris had a few good games but overall he gave up way too many points to a few crappy QBs that no way should have dominated us like they did

I would have given Morris a pass if his defense played like they did against Herbert Mahomes and Allen and played the other QBs better than they did against all teams other than Murray Carolina 4th string QB TB Carr and Wilson

So basically half of his games were played poorly against mediocre QBs (I don't care what you say but Crapola is a mediocre QB) and the way Rodgers played this year - he was a mediocre QB

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah great defense by Morris this year

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris

So - Morris had a few good games but overall he gave up way too many points to a few crappy QBs that no way should have dominated us like they did

I would have given Morris a pass if his defense played like they did against Herbert Mahomes and Allen and played the other QBs better than they did against all teams other than Murray Carolina 4th string QB TB Carr and Wilson

So basically half of his games were played poorly against mediocre QBs (I don't care what you say but Crapola is a mediocre QB) and the way Rodgers played this year - he was a mediocre QB

You're right he's straight shit it's amazing McVay didn't fire him after the Buffalo game

 

[Mojo Ram]

Yeah great defense by Morris this year

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris

So - Morris had a few good games but overall he gave up way too many points to a few crappy QBs that no way should have dominated us like they did

I would have given Morris a pass if his defense played like they did against Herbert Mahomes and Allen and played the other QBs better than they did against all teams other than Murray Carolina 4th string QB TB Carr and Wilson

So basically half of his games were played poorly against mediocre QBs (I don't care what you say but Crapola is a mediocre QB) and the way Rodgers played this year - he was a mediocre QB

All of that still adds up to 18 ppg surrendered.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I actually wouldn’t mind seeing new blood in there at DC because teams must evolve in this league to stay competitive. Having said that, if the Rams fix the problems on O and stay healthy I’m fine with Morris returning.

 

[PARAM]

Yeah great defense by Morris this year

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team (in reality, 18 pts; 26 yd blocked punt return TD and a safety when Powell ran out of the end zone)
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse( 17 pts; Pick 6 by SF)
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr (16 pts; FR TD & -3 from blk P at Rams 20; 13 pts)
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game (3 pts; Pick 6 by Carolina)
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game (poss. @ 30 after Fumble, 7 pts; poss @ 25 after int, FG)
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr (2 FGs from possessions started at Rams 9 & 27; KC was 1 of 6 in red zone. TD, 4 FG, INT)
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr (GB got the ball 3 times in Rams territory; 35, 47 and 34....scored 7 pts off that)
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris (Yeah, we had that game won if not for 4 questionable calls)

The defense allowed less than 20 points in 9 games and we went 5-4. Yeah, fans can blame that on Morris but if you asked McVay, "if we give up 19 or less, should that be enough to win", he'd say ABSO-FUCKING-LOOTLY!!!! And that's not counting the 6 times our offense shit the bed and gave opponents the ball in scoring position. 26 points there thanks to the D for forcing 4 FGs!!! I realize revisionist history can paint a completely different picture but when you hold teams to 17 pts (SF), 16 pts (Dallas; Tampa) and 19 points (Seattle), you have to win those if you have an NFL caliber offense. Sure the D had a horrible game vs New Orleans but we were down by 10 and could only muster 2 FGs in the last 21 minutes. Against Tampa they let Brady go down and score.....like that hasn't happened a hundred times! But we know what the problem was in 2022 and it wasn't the defense.

In the first 6 games of the season, the defense allowed 31, 18, 12, 17, 16 and 3 and we were 3-3. How in the hell does that happen?

 

[Flatlyner]

I'd be more then happy for the Colts to sign him as a HC. I like draft picks and honestly think he deserves a shot at HC. If we can sign a guy like Evero (provided he doesn't get HC), I think it's win win. Sure Morris was awful this year, but, refusing to adjust later in the game is seriously unexplainable. Catering your defensive game plan to exactly fit what the whiners do every single game is also baffling.

 

[Snaz]

It's not the points the defense gives up, they did pretty well there.
It's the time consuming drives that allow offenses to move down the field, chew up clock , and not give the poor offense more chances.

Playing so off giving up first downs like giving candy to Halloween Trick or Treaters.

 

[PARAM]

It's not the points the defense gives up, they did pretty well there.
It's the time consuming drives that allow offenses to move down the field, chew up clock , and not give the poor offense more chances.

Playing so off giving up first downs like giving candy to Halloween Trick or Treaters.

That ain't it. They had 176 possessions this year. That's 10.3 per game. The NFL average was 184 or 10.8 per game. The Rams offense averaged 1.7 points per possession this season. So they'd need 4 more possessions per game to score less than a TD (6.8). It wasn't the Rams didn't have enough possessions. It was the Rams didn't do enough with the possessions they had. Last year, they had 181 possessions (5 more on the season) and they averaged 2.5 pts per possession. So in 10.3 possessions per game, they would have averaged 25.8 points per game. I'll bet you we would have have a few more wins!

 

[Mackeyser]

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team (in reality, 18 pts; 26 yd blocked punt return TD and a safety when Powell ran out of the end zone)
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse( 17 pts; Pick 6 by SF)
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr (16 pts; FR TD & -3 from blk P at Rams 20; 13 pts)
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game (3 pts; Pick 6 by Carolina)
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game (poss. @ 30 after Fumble, 7 pts; poss @ 25 after int, FG)
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr (2 FGs from possessions started at Rams 9 & 27; KC was 1 of 6 in red zone. TD, 4 FG, INT)
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr (GB got the ball 3 times in Rams territory; 35, 47 and 34....scored 7 pts off that)
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris (Yeah, we had that game won if not for 4 questionable calls)

The defense allowed less than 20 points in 9 games and we went 5-4. Yeah, fans can blame that on Morris but if you asked McVay, "if we give up 19 or less, should that be enough to win", he'd say ABSO-FUCKING-LOOTLY!!!! And that's not counting the 6 times our offense shit the bed and gave opponents the ball in scoring position. 26 points there thanks to the D for forcing 4 FGs!!! I realize revisionist history can paint a completely different picture but when you hold teams to 17 pts (SF), 16 pts (Dallas; Tampa) and 19 points (Seattle), you have to win those if you have an NFL caliber offense. Sure the D had a horrible game vs New Orleans but we were down by 10 and could only muster 2 FGs in the last 21 minutes. Against Tampa they let Brady go down and score.....like that hasn't happened a hundred times! But we know what the problem was in 2022 and it wasn't the defense.

In the first 6 games of the season, the defense allowed 31, 18, 12, 17, 16 and 3 and we were 3-3. How in the hell does that happen?

Denver had the exact same problem issue

 

[PARAM]

Denver had the exact same problem issue

Our D allowed 35 TDs last year and 30 FGs
Our D allowed 35 TDs this year and 36 FGs

I don't think 6 FGs is enough to go from 12-5 to 5-12.
And opponents averaged 2:57 TOP per drive last year and 3:00 this year. It wasn't about the "long time consuming drives our defense allowed" that made the difference.

 

[OldSchool]

It's not the points the defense gives up, they did pretty well there.
It's the time consuming drives that allow offenses to move down the field, chew up clock , and not give the poor offense more chances.

Playing so off giving up first downs like giving candy to Halloween Trick or Treaters.

Now see this is where the anti Morris crowd gets funny they try to say things like this. For the season we had 29:48 TOP a game our opponents had 30:30. Clearly a massive difference that was game changing to our season. So our offense couldn't sustain a drive yet we were virtually even over the course of 17 games.

 

[Snaz]

Now see this is where the anti Morris crowd gets funny they try to say things like this. For the season we had 29:48 TOP a game our opponents had 30:30. Clearly a massive difference that was game changing to our season. So our offense couldn't sustain a drive yet we were virtually even over the course of 17 games.

22nd in 3 down % and 31st on 4th down % for the Defense.
We were not getting teams offense off the field.

 

[Tano]

31 points against Buffalo - game over by the end of the 3rd qtr
27 points against a crappy Atlanta team (in reality, 18 pts; 26 yd blocked punt return TD and a safety when Powell ran out of the end zone)
12 points against Kyler Murray who we have his number
24 points against San Francisco - first game started by Crapola or it would have been worse( 17 pts; Pick 6 by SF)
22 points against Dallas - made a back up QB look awesome - game over by end of 3rd qtr (16 pts; FR TD & -3 from blk P at Rams 20; 13 pts)
10 points against Carolina - 4th string QB who didn't make one complete pass over 5 yards the entire game (3 pts; Pick 6 by Carolina)
31 points against SF - again game over by early 4th qtr
16 points against TB - actually a good game plan until the 4th qtr and then he went soft zone shit when he was aggressive first 3 qtrs
27 points against Arizona - 2nd string QB was HOF bound from that game (poss. @ 30 after Fumble, 7 pts; poss @ 25 after int, FG)
27 points against NO - another HOF performance by the great Andy Dalton
26 points against KC - game over by end of 3rd qtr (2 FGs from possessions started at Rams 9 & 27; KC was 1 of 6 in red zone. TD, 4 FG, INT)
27 points against Seattle - another Geno Smith HOF game
16 points against Las Vegas - that was a good game by Morris
24 points against Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers who had been playing crappy up to that point took advantage to the soft zone shit - game over by end of 3rd qtr (GB got the ball 3 times in Rams territory; 35, 47 and 34....scored 7 pts off that)
14 points against Denver - we have Wilson's number
31 points against LA Chargers - Herbert is a good QB
19 points against Seattle - we had that game won - good game plan by Morris (Yeah, we had that game won if not for 4 questionable calls)

The defense allowed less than 20 points in 9 games and we went 5-4. Yeah, fans can blame that on Morris but if you asked McVay, "if we give up 19 or less, should that be enough to win", he'd say ABSO-FUCKING-LOOTLY!!!! And that's not counting the 6 times our offense shit the bed and gave opponents the ball in scoring position. 26 points there thanks to the D for forcing 4 FGs!!! I realize revisionist history can paint a completely different picture but when you hold teams to 17 pts (SF), 16 pts (Dallas; Tampa) and 19 points (Seattle), you have to win those if you have an NFL caliber offense. Sure the D had a horrible game vs New Orleans but we were down by 10 and could only muster 2 FGs in the last 21 minutes. Against Tampa they let Brady go down and score.....like that hasn't happened a hundred times! But we know what the problem was in 2022 and it wasn't the defense.

In the first 6 games of the season, the defense allowed 31, 18, 12, 17, 16 and 3 and we were 3-3. How in the hell does that happen?

Offense did suck but I still think our defense had the players to get more turnovers and sacks in the first 11 games before Donald got injured to help the offense out.

 

[Tano]

Plus we still made some crappy second string QBs look like HOF in a few of those games

 

[OldSchool]

22nd in 3 down % and 31st on 4th down % for the Defense.
We were not getting teams offense off the field.

And yet our offense that couldn't sustain drives matched those offenses that we couldn't get off the field. The logic is astounding when presented with those numbers.