Raheem Morris discussion thread

[dieterbrock]

Legitimately have no idea.

I don’t think he’s in any top tier.. but what is it going to take to bring a top tier guy into Denver with that Wilson mess?

I think it’s possible the new, very rich, owners throw a ridiculous amount of money at a top guy and say…” we’ll ride out the Wilson situation with you”… but I could easily see top candidates not wanting the hassle.

There’s only 32 head coaching gigs. And some guys may not get many shots at it. Denver is far from being a Cleveland, NY Jets or Houston kind of historical mess and as long as they are offering the money and control that some guys want, they can land probably anyone
I’m with you on Morris. Decent coach, not all world. Don’t need to see him go but don’t think he’s irreplaceable either. As a head coach? I don’t see anything he does that makes me think he can be the guy to take a team to the next level

 

[OldSchool]

There is a reasonable chance we change DC this offseason. I think fans forget that McVay routinely makes the tough calls. He moved on from Wade when he wanted to learn the Fangio scheme. He moved on from Goff when a lesser head coach would have addressed the OL and crossed his fingers. He moved on from Cooks due to the injuries and stink of the SB loss. He moved on from DJax quickly in spite of their history together. Say what you want about him but he puts the team first.

So no idea if it happens or if it does what the moves end up looking like. But I would guess that since he has such a deep trust with Raheem he might slide him over to offense as asst HC, though that would require a demotion or firing of Brown who currently holds said title. Or some other job in the org. You can't have enough leaders like Raheem on a team that's for sure. I respect the hell out of him in that regard. But he is not dynamic enough as a gameday caller or as a gameplan preparer and that has to change. I will be surprised if a move does not get made at that coordinator spot.

He moved on from Wade when Wades contract was up. He moved on from Bones when his contract was up. Raheem likely signed a 3 year contract like it seems all of our coaches/coordinators do.

 

[TSFH Fan]

I think the only the only Rumors regarding Morris as a HC candidate in Denver are from posters creating them on Rams MB's Lol

So far, this seems correct.


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[Merlin]

Josina is out of her depth in the HC realm IMO. She seems to have some good player info time to time but I doubt she's got good teams contacts. Her generalized takes reinforce that too I think.

Denver is a longshot at best for Asshole Face or Harbaugh. They aren't going to attract a top candidate, it will need to be a coordinator elevation type hire. And that's fine, you can hit on those guys. But I have seen nothing from Denver's front office to think they will make a good choice either.

Edit: one other possibility for them is the college ranks. But they won't get a top guy there either. You're talking someone like David Shaw.

 

[Kupped]

There’s only 32 head coaching gigs. And some guys may not get many shots at it. Denver is far from being a Cleveland, NY Jets or Houston kind of historical mess and as long as they are offering the money and control that some guys want, they can land probably anyone
I’m with you on Morris. Decent coach, not all world. Don’t need to see him go but don’t think he’s irreplaceable either. As a head coach? I don’t see anything he does that makes me think he can be the guy to take a team to the next level

I have no idea.
I know he’s respected and he’s doing a solid job in a rough year.

If a team believes in a CEO-type model, I think he is a solid candidate.

But, again… I have no real idea.

As far as Denver goes… it’s likely a very rough 23 and you have to cap issues the two years after that. They can be overcome.. but are there more attractive jobs? That’s the question for the top guys.

I think Quinn takes the Denver job.. I think it’s a better situation than Indy, for example.

 

[Snaz]

I think the only the only Rumors regarding Morris as a HC candidate in Denver are from posters creating them on Rams MB's Lol

Untrue, saw multiple articles and tweets

 

[OldSchool]

Asshole face imo is the sucker bet guaranteed to make sportsbooks money.

 

[oldnotdead]

McVay should hire Brian Flores as DC. He's one of the best at running a 3-4 hybrid. He plays a very aggressive front. His scheme is an attacking, penetration defense, which is how the scheme is designed to be played. Also, if Sean decides to leave then Flores would be a very good follow-up HC.

McVay you want another ring? Fire Morris and hire Brian Flores as your DC. Then allow him the freedom to play the defense while McVay focus' on the offense. Flores will have this defense playing as a top 5 unit. McVay doesn't accept mediocrity from his players why is he so content with a mediocre DC?

 

[Kupped]

McVay should hire Brian Flores as DC. He's one of the best at running a 3-4 hybrid. He plays a very aggressive front. His scheme is an attacking, penetration defense, which is how the scheme is designed to be played. Also, if Sean decides to leave then Flores would be a very good follow-up HC.

McVay you want another ring? Fire Morris and hire Brian Flores as your DC. Then allow him the freedom to play the defense while McVay focus' on the offense. Flores will have this defense playing as a top 5 unit. McVay doesn't accept mediocrity from his players why is he so content with a mediocre DC?

If they can upgrade from Morris.. someone like Fangio… Eviro looks great as well..

Flores?

2019 Miami D .. 30th in yards and gave up almost 31 points a game.
2020 20th & 21 points a game.
Pittsburgh D he’s helping with this season? Significantly behind the Rams.

If it’s a suggestion, it’s a bad one… if it’s trolling, it’s sad.

 

[oldnotdead]

Flores in Pittsburgh is doing less with more. They are only one spot behind the Rams in the defensive rankings. He doesn't have AD, Wagner and Ramsey. In Miami they were rebuilding. You can see the improvement from 2019 -2020. Morris in 2022 with stars at all 3 levels is basically even with Miami in 2020? The only reason Morris' defense is where it's at is due to playing the hapless Raiders and Broncos.

My point was there are good DCs out there, who would play this defense better. When he plays it aggressively they play well. Then the next game he sits back for 3 quarters in his prevent. If you are good with that fine. Personally, I'm not, this team wants another ring, and to get it the defense has to be more consistent.

 

[Kupped]

Flores in Pittsburgh is doing less with more. They are only one spot behind the Rams in the defensive rankings. He doesn't have AD, Wagner and Ramsey. In Miami they were rebuilding. You can see the improvement from 2019 -2020. Morris in 2022 with stars at all 3 levels is basically even with Miami in 2020? The only reason Morris' defense is where it's at is due to playing the hapless Raiders and Broncos.

My point was there are good DCs out there, who would play this defense better. When he plays it aggressively they play well. Then the next game he sits back for 3 quarters in his prevent. If you are good with that fine. Personally, I'm not, this team wants another ring, and to get it the defense has to be more consistent.

Lol… high comedy on the excuses.

As I said… if the Rams can upgrade, great!!

Just make sure it’s an upgrade.

 

[Classic Rams]

McVay should hire Brian Flores as DC. He's one of the best at running a 3-4 hybrid. He plays a very aggressive front. His scheme is an attacking, penetration defense, which is how the scheme is designed to be played. Also, if Sean decides to leave then Flores would be a very good follow-up HC.

McVay you want another ring? Fire Morris and hire Brian Flores as your DC. Then allow him the freedom to play the defense while McVay focus' on the offense. Flores will have this defense playing as a top 5 unit. McVay doesn't accept mediocrity from his players why is he so content with a mediocre DC?

McVay is not going to fire Morris. Morris will take a HC job before any of that even crosses McVay's thoughts.

 

[So Ram]

McVay is not going to fire Morris. Morris will take a HC job before any of that even crosses McVay's thoughts.

AGREE!!! Wow , how some posters think. Mcvay has one of the best coaching trees out there.

Morris is a big part of The Rams right now & why Hoecht has been give his opportunity as DE/OLB from a DT/De.

 

[dieterbrock]

Untrue, saw multiple articles and tweets

From Rams fans lol

 

[OldSchool]

Untrue, saw multiple articles and tweets

Please share with the group.

 

[Merlin]

I would consider Flores to be a big upgrade over Morris. Have a ton of respect for him. He and McVay would be a fearsome duo.

Also he would bring the interior workings of the Belichick defensive approach which McVay could learn about if he were to be added to this staff. A lot of coordination and gameplanning is using the rules of the opponent against them in your scheme so I think that would be a good growth opportunity for McVay to add him. And the Rams would be a better team for the addition.

Of note with Flores is that he wasn't the DC in name in New England. So his defenses that were his were the Dolphins units. His first season in Miami wasn't too hot, but he was transitioning a bottom feeder unit and functioning as head coach. But we saw his defense fully the second season, that defense was damn good. His units are physical and aggressive, two elements I value greatly. And his secondary knowledge is on point. We'd have disguised looks and confused QBs playing us just like we saw under Staley.

 

[Kupped]

I would consider Flores to be a big upgrade over Morris. Have a ton of respect for him. He and McVay would be a fearsome duo.

Also he would bring the interior workings of the Belichick defensive approach which McVay could learn about if he were to be added to this staff. A lot of coordination and gameplanning is using the rules of the opponent against them in your scheme so I think that would be a good growth opportunity for McVay to add him. And the Rams would be a better team for the addition.

Of note with Flores is that he wasn't the DC in name in New England. So his defenses that were his were the Dolphins units. His first season in Miami wasn't too hot, but he was transitioning a bottom feeder unit and functioning as head coach. But we saw his defense fully the second season, that defense was damn good. His units are physical and aggressive, two elements I value greatly. And his secondary knowledge is on point. We'd have disguised looks and confused QBs playing us just like we saw under Staley.

Based on track record, I don't know how you could go with "big upgrade."

He might be, I just don't know how that washes out. When Morris got the personnel.. his unit was doing exactly the things you attribute to Flores unit.

That's probably the point that I don't understand.

 

[OldSchool]

I would consider Flores to be a big upgrade over Morris. Have a ton of respect for him. He and McVay would be a fearsome duo.

Also he would bring the interior workings of the Belichick defensive approach which McVay could learn about if he were to be added to this staff. A lot of coordination and gameplanning is using the rules of the opponent against them in your scheme so I think that would be a good growth opportunity for McVay to add him. And the Rams would be a better team for the addition.

Of note with Flores is that he wasn't the DC in name in New England. So his defenses that were his were the Dolphins units. His first season in Miami wasn't too hot, but he was transitioning a bottom feeder unit and functioning as head coach. But we saw his defense fully the second season, that defense was damn good. His units are physical and aggressive, two elements I value greatly. And his secondary knowledge is on point. We'd have disguised looks and confused QBs playing us just like we saw under Staley.

So with the right personnel he'll do exactly what Morris did in winning us a Super Bowl? I'm as frustrated as anybody with the soft coverage, ok not even close to some people, but we've seen Morris with a pass rush and 2 corners who can press. He also needs competent safety play to back them up. We haven't seen that from players this year. By and large our defense is the way it is because players aren't/weren't making plays.

Also to counter your support for Flores I'll call him based on your description of him the defensive Hackett. Made a name supporting other peoples defense.

 

[Corbin]

Some rumors Morris to Denver.... but fans hopes and rumors are not fact... yet.

Please for the love of God make this happen

 

[Angry Ram]

Flores in Pittsburgh is doing less with more. They are only one spot behind the Rams in the defensive rankings. He doesn't have AD, Wagner and Ramsey. In Miami they were rebuilding. You can see the improvement from 2019 -2020. Morris in 2022 with stars at all 3 levels is basically even with Miami in 2020? The only reason Morris' defense is where it's at is due to playing the hapless Raiders and Broncos.

My point was there are good DCs out there, who would play this defense better. When he plays it aggressively they play well. Then the next game he sits back for 3 quarters in his prevent. If you are good with that fine. Personally, I'm not, this team wants another ring, and to get it the defense has to be more consistent.

He has TJ Watt, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and Cam Heyward, and to a lesser extent Devin Bush. I'd say they are pretty similar, which reflects on the standings.

But hey, when all else fails...guess we can blame both coordinators now right?