(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

[12intheBox]

The nice thing is that they are so different - it makes it difficult for GB to prepare for both.

 

[So Ram]

One could almost say that it comes down to McVay choosing the ‘least worst’ option.

I leaned slightly toward Wolford last week against the Cards but I now lean slightly toward Goff against the Packers.

Here’s my reasoning...

Goff’s had another week to heal.
Goff has the higher ceiling in case a special type throw becomes necessary.
Packers are a far superior team to Cards and even current Seahawks and I don’t think Wolford is quite ready for a shootout with the Packers whereas Goff just might be.
Goff is better at taking snaps under C which makes it easier to enhance Akers’ running game. Wolford was a 90% shotgun QB vs Cards. This is a huge factor in my thinking.

Look, McVay and the Rams are between a rock and a very hard place here no matter what choice they make.

Playing the #1 seed away and in frigid temps with either a QB with a recently fractured thumb on his throwing hand and possibly experiencing some lack of confidence OR the inexperienced Wolford that seems to need too much shotgun to be effective. Goodness.

But, it’s the playoffs and all teams must play the hand that they’re dealt.

Here is the only scenario that I see where Rams win this game and it’s quite a parlay.

Start Goff.
Establish run game somehow, some way. Won’t be easy because Packers will be selling out to stop the run.
If McVay is saving trick plays then now is the time to use them. Akers on RPO, for example.
Rams D has to play out of their mind again.
Rams need to be +1 on turnovers, maybe +2.
Rams D must make Rodgers VERY uncomfortable for 60 minutes.
ST units must shine. Hekker, Gay, coverage, and return units all must be superb. One error here could be disastrous.
McVay must come up with a ‘genius type’ game plan. Ho hum just won’t do.
Staley must also come up with schemes to frustrate a terrific Packer O. This is the key to the entire game, IMO.
AD must play and play well. This is huge.
One or more Ram players must make ‘hero’ plays in this game. Could be on O, on D, or on ST. Lots of candidates for the Rams, but there better be a few that just do it.

Lots of stuff listed there above, the question is how many can the Rams bring to bear? If Rams accomplish enough of the above then they win. But if the Rams do not or cannot then the Packers win and move on.

If ever there was a game where the Ram teammates need to rally around an injured QB, this is it. I am hopeful that these underdog Rams will rise up and leave it all on the field. Nothing less will do. There are many reasons why the Packers are 7 point favorites. Heck, I’m surprised that it’s not more.

DON’T Know how to even explain this one? The Cards??

There is not even a choice unless Jared Goff’s thumb is worse than playing against The SeaHags.

This is just Ridiculous think as a Rams Fan there is a QB controversy.I go back to a long ways as a Ram Fan. Thinking like this always upsets me.

No disrespect,but COME ON MAN!!

I’ll give you this much insight though.Sean Mcvay thinks outside the Box & will always try to give The Rams the best chance to win! ESPECIALLY in the PLAYOFFS.New Orleans runs Hill out on the field for Drew Bree’s a HOF QB the past 3 seasons. I think Wolford getting experience & having McVays trust you probably will see him on the field against Green Bay if healthy.
Then again Goff has to prove he is healthy.Last week Goff was disappointed he wasn’t starting,but proved he could help advance The Rams another week.
Goff not playing was only because of his health & risk of hurting his thumb more.It had been what? 3 Day? To bring the Zona game up imo is Totally Ridiculous. - enough said.I’ll wait till game time to post about this again,if at all. Peace! Go Rams

 

[HellRam]

Well McVay thought Goff was healthy enough to have a majority of his snaps under center as well as QB sneak where defenders would be attacking the football in which Goff is holding.

So I'd imagine he would be healthy enough for GB after anouther week of healing.

 

[thirteen28]

I would go with Goff if his thumb is better than it was against Seattle.

That being said, one of the great things this season has revealed to us is that we have a backup QB that we can have confidence in and that the team will rally around should Jared go down some season (knock on wood). Wolford was a big questions mark all season, one that we never had to answer until the final week - when we needed a win to get in. He answered that question, and we can now be secure in the knowledge that the team won't panic if he has to go in.

 

[RamWoodie]

Goff seemed to settle down as he went on in the game. He did a great job buying time to get that ball to Akers for that long run...and he looked like himself when he threw the TD to Woods. He was really fired up after that.

I'd like him to start...and I'm sure the med staff will do all they can to have the thumb at 100. All I want him to do is be willing to take off and run when there's plenty of daylight in front off him.

 

[Ellard80]

Our passing game has to be better against the packers - for nearly all the game last week until the very end when we got some rythm it was almost non-existent outside a couple plays.

We had 5 straight 3 and outs and were like 4-15 passing. Goff's thumb is not 100%. If you watched that game last week it was pretty clear.

I think Goff will start, but I hope that extra week really gets hit thumb better.

But McVay going to keep em guessing all week I'm sure...

 

[I like Rams]

Alot of questions going into preparing for this game.

1. Is Goff able to play and did him playing against the Shithawks prolong his recovery?

2. What is the real consensus on Wolfs injury? Neck injuries are nothing to mess with.

3. Do we use Bortles in practice in case he is needed?

 

[Rams8821]

My take is that its going to be Wolford. Reading between the lines in McVays's presser it seemed to me like he was leaning Wolford. But maybe be is just throwing folks off the trail.

Tough call, JG didnt look right to me in Seattle but he made some really nice plays when we needed it. Wolford looked good before the cheap shot took him out.

Bottom line I trust McVay to roll with whoever gives us the best chance to win. And whoever is under center needs to take care of the ball, he doesnt have to win the game, but he cant lose it for us.

 

[iamme33]

i wanted goff to start (if healthy) how ever long we last in the playoff but i was so impressed with the wolfman that i wanted an open competition for qb in training camp next year. i thought this would save us a draft pick and motivate goff. after seeing the wolfman injured in a little over 1 game i am worried that he will be injury prone. now i think we should spend our first pick on a qb because i don't think it is good for goff to think he has the starting qb job wrapped up. if we can hit on a good back up after a couple of years we could trade him for some good draft picks. still wish the wolfman could be the competition but injuries worry me to much.

 

[badnews]

whatever McVay decides, I'll be behind

This right here.
McVay has coaching gifts, a pulse on his team and a much clearer image of our 2 QBs strengths and weaknesses and how their injuries factor into those traits..

If it was Bonamego’s choice on who should kick, I might feel inclined to really have an opinion. But between these QBs in these situations, whatever Sean McVay decides will be good with me.

 

[Rams43]

DON’T Know how to even explain this one? The Cards??

There is not even a choice unless Jared Goff’s thumb is worse than playing against The SeaHags.

This is just Ridiculous think as a Rams Fan there is a QB controversy.I go back to a long ways as a Ram Fan. Thinking like this always upsets me.

No disrespect,but COME ON MAN!!

I’ll give you this much insight though.Sean Mcvay thinks outside the Box & will always try to give The Rams the best chance to win! ESPECIALLY in the PLAYOFFS.New Orleans runs Hill out on the field for Drew Bree’s a HOF QB the past 3 seasons. I think Wolford getting experience & having McVays trust you probably will see him on the field against Green Bay if healthy.
Then again Goff has to prove he is healthy.Last week Goff was disappointed he wasn’t starting,but proved he could help advance The Rams another week.
Goff not playing was only because of his health & risk of hurting his thumb more.It had been what? 3 Day? To bring the Zona game up imo is Totally Ridiculous. - enough said.I’ll wait till game time to post about this again,if at all. Peace! Go Rams

A very confusing reply there, So Ram. I’m not at all clear about what you’re trying to say.

I believe that starting Goff is the ‘least worst’ choice for McVay this week. If you feel differently, please make your case, man.

 

[MachS]

I posted this in the other thread, but listen to McVay talk to the media yesterday..seems pretty clear Wolford getting the start again in GB.

Listen to his answers to these questions:

Gary Klein - 5:03 - 6:40

Jourdan Rodrigue - 8:31 - 10:55


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0uJXXcssw

 

[Faceplant]

A very confusing reply there, So Ram. I’m not at all clear about what you’re trying to say.

I believe that starting Goff is the ‘least worst’ choice for McVay this week. If you feel differently, please make your case, man.

Lolz. I have a tough time reading some of his posts as well. I was particularly confused by that one.....

 

[dieterbrock]

I posted this in the other thread, but listen to McVay talk to the media yesterday..seems pretty clear Wolford getting the start again in GB.

Listen to his answers to these questions:

Gary Klein - 5:03 - 6:40

Jourdan Rodrigue - 8:31 - 10:55


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0uJXXcssw

I almost feel like Bortles has a chance to start after that. Wolford is still day to day

 

[dolphinlover123]

I posted this in the other thread, but listen to McVay talk to the media yesterday..seems pretty clear Wolford getting the start again in GB.

Listen to his answers to these questions:

Gary Klein - 5:03 - 6:40

Jourdan Rodrigue - 8:31 - 10:55


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0uJXXcssw

I didnt hear it the same way. I think hes trying to keep people guessing.

 

[Merlin]

I expect him to start Wolford. Assuming that injury was just a stinger which is sort of amazing given how much pressure his neck took from that hit, you have a backup who has shown he can run the offense with good efficiency so you use him and keep QB1 in reserve.

Expecting that we're going to get the old Goff now, after he has struggled in so many games down the stretch and with the thumb injury, is not realistic IMO. Our chances for advancing right now are defense and the run game. So be smart and rest QB1 so maybe you get him back for the much nastier defense in New Orleans.

Now maybe in that scenario Jared will be further along if we can beat Green Bay and I think that increases our chances of getting the Good Goff when we will need him more vs the better defense. Because next week it will be either Tampa or New Orleans both of whom have outstanding defenses, especially in comparison to Green Bay.

 

[HellRam]

On NFL network just now Micheal Silver hinted McVay and Goff are not seeing eye to eye right now. He didn’t get into specifics but after hearing this I wouldn't be surprised if Wolford starts again. Even if Goff is close to being fully healthy.

 

[Giles]

On NFL network just now Micheal Silver hinted McVay and Goff are not seeing eye to eye right now. He didn’t get into specifics but after hearing this I wouldn't be surprised if Wolford starts again. Even if Goff is close to being fully healthy.

Well that's not good.

 

[MachS]

I didnt hear it the same way. I think hes trying to keep people guessing.

McVay isnt going to give GB a strategic advantage by naming a starter...same as last week. But if you read b/w the lines (below) it was pretty telling based on how he answered IMO. Goff wants to start, he's a tough dude. And it seems like he wanted to start last week too based on some of these comments. But McVay doesn't think the thumb is in good enough shape to execute at his usual level. And if Wolford is ready to go, I think McVay believes Wolford can make all the throws right now. But Goff wants to start, that much is clear...and it seems like during their internal discussions Goff wasn't happy with not starting last week. But it's his damn throwing hand thumb, you cant blame McVay for the tough decision he has to make. I think it was interesting how much info he gave answering these questions tbh.

-McVay to Gary:

"Yea like I said I'm going to take it one day at a time. But it affected him yesterday. I mean you watch the game... it did. It might not have been painful...and he did a great job battling, being ready to go. There were some things that he's typically is able to execute and it seems like it was a factor."

-McVay to Jordun:

"I never want him to be anything but honest with you guys(the media), but it was my understanding that he was telling you guys about the pain (or lack there of). I've got a job as a coach to evaluate the ability to execute the things we're asking of each of the positions..............I think the pain is separate from the ability to have the functionality and what that entails...........we always make sure we're communicating with them (the QBs), and make the best decisions for the team accordingly. And sometimes those things are good for everybody, but you cant always accommodate everybody.... that's what my job is, and I'm going to be clear, honest and upfront about it...............Its just clearly communicating the thought process, and how you come to decisions, and where you're at with how those decisions are being made, to try and create a clear understanding. And sometimes those things might be agreed on, sometimes they might not be. But that's the responsibility you have (as a head coach)

 

[Malibu]

This is a huge decision. I am s Goff fan but trying to ve fair i think i go with Goff. Heres why - Goff has massively more experience and a good deal of his turn overs this season are mostly to blame in the OL not holding up for any length of time. Bo pocket and any pocket he got wasnt wide. These are confidence killers. Now that Whit is back Goff i am sure feels somewhat better.

I liked Wolfords AZ game, but not outstanding and GB overall is better. He threw a long sideline throw to Kupp that was inches from being a pick 6. That actually scared me about him does he have the arm strength. I like his mobility, but he is 6 feet even which is 5 inches shorter than Goff and in Seattle game Jared got several balls batted down.

I just think Goff is way more battle tested than Wolford. He will check out and into a better play.