(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

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Which QB are you starting?

  • The Wolf

  • Perkins

  • Bortles

  • Hekker the Wrecker

  • Case Keenum

  • Cam Akers

  • Dieter Brock


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CGI_Ram

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Wolford scrambles, confuses them enough, and wins against AZ.

Rams advance.

Goff and Whitworth come back round one of Playoffs. Rams shock everyone, and advance to round two...

I am going with THAT at the moment! :horns: :biggrin:
 

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what a fucking nightmare, our 1st string QB is out and we will play our backup QB in a game that decides if we make the playoffs or not. As bad as this is, I feel worse that Goff is not going to get better. 2 years of watching him get worse. Locking on to WRs, not able to read defenses, making dumb decisions. He's been doing this too long to not see some type of improvement. I'm so fucking bummed right now. I still have faith in McVay to get this shit fixed next season but I'm afraid that Goff is not the answer.
Unfortunately I think our QB had hit his “ Peters Principle” as a QB under McVay. I think McVay knows it too. McVays insistence on neck up play seems to have short circuited Jared. I don’t think I’ve seen McVay call so many 3 yard passes than he did on Sunday before Jared’s thumb injury....shattered confidence.
 

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I don’t think I’ve seen McVay call so many 3 yard passes than he did on Sunday before Jared’s thumb injury....shattered confidence.

Wait, last week all I read was that those two long throws at the end of the game in a short yardage situation were on Goff. Now McVay is dictating pass length? I can't keep up.
 

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Wolford scrambles, confuses them enough, and wins against AZ.

Rams advance.

Goff and Whitworth come back round one of Playoffs. Rams shock everyone, and advance to round two...

I am going with THAT at the moment! :horns: :biggrin:

I am hoping this is the case. As much as a Goff backer I am, if Wolford plays extremely well i would personally play the hot hand in the playoffs. A scrambling QB would potentially be more productive behind our blocking issues. Goff is a special talent but it does depend on solid protection and we don't have that. I also heard Mcvay mention some wrinkles possible for Wolford which by all indications are RPO's. The element of surprise may win a few games as we saw with Jalen Hurts.
 

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You know that Goff converted 9 3rd downs yesterday right? Made some really good throws. I'd rather Goff take a knee than throw the head scratching, "what the fuque was that?" throws he is becoming famous for, but how do we replace the stuff he does very well??

This is what has become increasingly frustrating:
How is it Goff can make 2-3 really good throws in a row and then suddenly look lost as if a switch was just flipped? Missing easy passes and being a high risk with the ball is what lead to those conservative and predictable plays on the goal line.

He has played MUCH better.

The Rams are in a tunch next week, but this thread is about optimism, right? I hope that bubble doesn’t burst in the 1rst qtr. I’m not expecting the big arm throws that Goff can make, but I think taking care of the ball can keep the Rams in the game until someone makes a big play or two.

Replacing Goff? That won’t be handled this season and I expect him to be starting in 2021. May this subject not have to be revisited then.
 

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a lot of people gave him props for that... and like i said no one that plays in the nfl is "soft"

most us would piss down their legs.

Just being honest though - poping a thumb back into place really isn't that scary...

what is really scary is a 325lb man coming after you that can run like a horse... now that is fucking scary.

In a high school game my brother dislocated his shoulder. Before the half. He was a team leader and played guard and DE. He told the coaches to tape it up. He finished the game and other than in the huddle you could barely tell he’s shoulder was hurting.
 

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After watching Donald break tackles to get after Wilson I sure wish they would have tried him at running back in that situation.

Just sending him out there at FB near the goal line would cause the defense to think...
 

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At least he is getting a full week of practice in. I’m sure McV will try to protect him and play to his strengths.
 

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This pretty much puts an end to what was once a promising season. They may make the playoffs and even win if we play the east. Losing 3 games to losing teams really hurt. But let's be honest, this team is done. Not being negative just being realistic.

Man, if you are forced to eat humble pie, wont we all be happy :)

I get how you feel
 

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Bortles did take the Jags to the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP. Who knows lol
 

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I really hope McVay doesn’t go into more of a shell with Wolford.
He likely will.
Arizona has more sacks than any other team the last several weeks.
If McVay just runs and throws WR screens the Rams will have a hard time doing anything.
I’d expect to see 10 defenders within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.
 

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It's Wolford's game, plain and simple. Bortles is only an emergency option. If they promote Perkins as well, I am hoping they draw up some plays for him. It's crazy how this team may look, despite being the biggest game of the year, we could see some players who havent had a shot yet, Calais, Jones, Perkins, Hopkins and of course The Wolf.... After hearing McVay presser, I wouldnt expect any RPO or anything of that nature, but the insertion of the fresh legs will make plays like the roll outs, QB draws and end arounds look different. We cant change the situation but that doesnt mean we cant enjoy it. As always, the NFL off season is so dreadfully long, got to soak up as much enjoyment as we can while it lasts.
 

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We had 4 plays from the 1 and couldn't punch it in, either. See how losing was a team effort?

The video showed the ball over the goal when loose. A recovery by the Rams would be a touchdown.
They states no clear recovery though, but if they gave possesstion to the Rams and the ball was over the goal line, is that not a touchdown?
 

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Bortles knows the O terminology and is familiar to McVay.
But he didn’t take the Jags anywhere.
He road a very good defense and running game.
He played a solid game at Pittsburgh, after Marrone put them in stall ball and Pittsurgh charged back he led them to a late TD drive that put that game away. He also lit up New England in the Champ game but Maronne took the air out of the ball and played scared and they lost.
That said, Bortles wont play unless there's an absolute emergency
 

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Bortles knows the O terminology and is familiar to McVay.
But he didn’t take the Jags anywhere.
He road a very good defense and running game.
I agree, but he at least managed the game. We don't need much from whoever, just don't turn the ball over.
 

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Let's move onto some further analysis of what Wolford brings to the table, based on in-depth research and film study.

Measurables/Athleticism

Wolford's main problem is his lack of size. He's listed at 6-foot-1 but actually measured in at 5-foot-11½ at his pro day. That's probably the main reason for the lack of NFL interest.

Nevertheless, his athletic numbers are very good. His 40-time was above average, his short shuttle and three cone drill were very good and his broad and vertical jump were about average.

Arm Strength

Wolford doesn't have a cannon for an arm but uses a pump fake to good effect and can get the ball downfield with adequate touch and timing:

He will usually put enough zip on the ball on out-breaking routes, throwing a tight spiral on this pass:


His numbers when throwing downfield last season were solid and a vast improvement on his first three seasons.

Accuracy

Wolford's ball placement seems to be pretty good. He can hit players in stride and has a good understanding of when to lead a receiver and when to put the ball in a spot where only he can make a play on the ball.

He will at times throw slightly behind his man or low on intermediate passes, but did not throw a lot of reckless interceptable passes last year.


His numbers when throwing downfield last season were solid and a vast improvement on his first three seasons.

Accuracy

Wolford's ball placement seems to be pretty good. He can hit players in stride and has a good understanding of when to lead a receiver and when to put the ball in a spot where only he can make a play on the ball.

He will at times throw slightly behind his man or low on intermediate passes, but did not throw a lot of reckless interceptable passes last year.

His numbers when throwing downfield last season were solid and a vast improvement on his first three seasons.

Accuracy

Wolford's ball placement seems to be pretty good. He can hit players in stride and has a good understanding of when to lead a receiver and when to put the ball in a spot where only he can make a play on the ball.

He will at times throw slightly behind his man or low on intermediate passes, but did not throw a lot of reckless interceptable passes last year.


His completion percentage in his final season was much better than in the past and he ended up 20th in the nation.

Under pressure

As noted, Wolford was sacked over 100 times in his first three years, but Wake Forest's offensive line got better and better over the course of his career and he started to trust his protection more and throw from within the pocket with more success.

Wolford shows an ability to anticipate and get rid of the ball quickly, but still holds onto the ball too long at times when waiting for plays to develop. As you'd expect there is a drop-off in his completion percentages when under pressure, but he shows an ability to beat a blitz.

While his pocket presence is generally good, he does sometimes fail to keep the ball adequately protected and can be susceptible to losing fumbles, usually when on the move. On this play, he doesn't anticipate the rush off the edge and isn't able to get his throw off. The fumble was returned for a score:


He seems to be good at moving within the pocket and changing up his arm angle to get passes off cleanly, which is essential for a short quarterback. He only had five passes batted down at the line last year.

Footwork/Technique

Wolford admits that his footwork was not ideal in his first three seasons and his improved play in his senior year is probably in large part due to the hard work he carried out during the offseason.

Wolford's throwing motion is sound and he has a quick, compact release. However, there are times when he will bail out of a throw under pressure. He also has a tendency to throw the ball across his body when rolling out, which is something he doesn't look as comfortable doing as you might expect.

Decision Making

Wolford played in a simplistic offense in college, which often predetermined where the ball was supposed to go based on pre-snap reads. However, he at least showed that he can come off his primary option and check down underneath at times. He shows off his ability to read the field here:


Mobility

Wolford is a good runner, capable of scrambling out past the second level and picking up chunks of yardage on read option looks. In one game last season, he passed for 363 yards and three scores and rushed for another 136 yards and three more scores. Here's how dangerous he can be on designed runs:


Scheme Fit

There might be some level of adjustment required for Wolford to be ready to handle a pro-style system, but he is regarded as smart and has a good command of the huddle, so this is something he might be able to cope with.

Injuries

The diminutive Wolford has dealt with plenty of injuries during his time at Wake Forest, although he showed some toughness by often playing hurt. He ended up starting 47 games.

He was knocked out of a game in his freshman year when he landed on his head at the end of a scramble and missed the Clemson game with a shoulder injury last year. He's also had foot/ankle injuries in the past.

Intangibles

Wolford's teammates and coaches speak in glowing terms about his intangibles, praising his smarts, toughness and team-first mentality. He is regarded as a hard-worker with a high level of competitiveness.

He has no character red flags but had a tangential association to a scandal when it emerged that the team's former announcer had been feeding information about the playbook to other teams and his father suggested that this might have been a factor in him being sacked so much in his first three years.

 

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Well, whoever the new QB turns out to be, I hope he carries on Goff's tradition of letting a member of the OL spike the ball after every TD run.

:hope:
 

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Agreed, but barring a miracle that Wolford is the 2nd coming of Drew Brees I doubt we put up enough points to beat the cards. I hope I'm wrong of course

i know high lite films only show a players good plays and i always watch them and think this player is the greatest thing since sliced bread. but still wolford had some very good film in college and i don't think we should count him out before we see him in action