Petition to Replace Vinovitch with a Different Ref

[Dodgersrf]

Someone pointed out that Al Riveron makes the final call on challenges, so it wasn't Vinovich who screwed the Hekker placement upon review.

Let's get that petition rolling, elm.

 

[jrry32]

Haha. I had no idea. I and many others thought it was the ref on the field.

It was the refs on the field. They spotted the ball terribly, which forced a challenge that teams rarely win without a down-the-line angle. Plus, as others mentioned, if the ref continues to defend the call to the replay official during the review, the NFL tends not to overturn it.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Let's get that petition rolling, elm.

I didn’t start it nor post it

 

[Mackeyser]

???

Gambling addict. I was a bookie in 8th grade and realized in HS that I was a addicted and not just a little.

I was aware of it enough that I made sure to promise to my then fiancée now wife of nearly 30 years that I wouldn’t gamble and other than $20 in Vegas during a bachelor party and some Powerball tix (never more than $20 and only if the jackpot is over $300M except I did $40 when the jackpot was over $1B), I haven’t gambled.

I tried betting ROD bucks and it really doesn’t make any difference. My hands would shake just making a ROD bet, so I had to stop.

I’m fortunate. But I still get sick to my stomach in a casino (a hard to avoid place aboard a cruise ship), so I know it’s still a thing I have to be vigilant about.

 

[tomas]

The Rams will essentially win or lose based on how they play, not on who the officials are.

 

[Prime Time]

Gambling addict. I was a bookie in 8th grade and realized in HS that I was a addicted and not just a little.

I was aware of it enough that I made sure to promise to my then fiancée now wife of nearly 30 years that I wouldn’t gamble and other than $20 in Vegas during a bachelor party and some Powerball tix (never more than $20 and only if the jackpot is over $300M except I did $40 when the jackpot was over $1B), I haven’t gambled.

I tried betting ROD bucks and it really doesn’t make any difference. My hands would shake just making a ROD bet, so I had to stop.

I’m fortunate. But I still get sick to my stomach in a casino (a hard to avoid place aboard a cruise ship), so I know it’s still a thing I have to be vigilant about.

I have an addictive personality. Just look at my post count, lol. Knew better than to ever get involved in gambling.

Had a roommate back in the 70's, who unknown to his dad, sold his machine shop to two different companies and bankrupted him to cover gambling bets. His dad keeled over and died the next day.

Back in those days in San Jose, CA they had card clubs that were open 24-hours a day. This guy would spend most of his time over there always losing. I once walked into a 7-11 and saw him stealing lunch meat cause he had no money.

According to his mom he went over to her house acting crazy so she called the cops. They came over, rolled him into a rug on the kitchen floor and carried him out straight to the nuthouse. It's a sickness for some.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Almost 7,000 sigs

 

[bubbaramfan]

I listen to a lot of radio and today on LA's biggest radio station KFI, 640am, (not a sports talk) they talked about fans from both games complaining about both head officials. Most of the bitching done by Patriot and Rams fans due to their history with Clete Blakeman and Vinobitch. Then later on am 570ESPN with Fred Rogin and some talking head from New Orleans radio station and they have been talking about Vinobitchs" history With the Saints. (they have won most of their games with Vinobitch).

While it's still a bad appointment with the Rams, at least its getting national exposure and may bring Vonobitchs' one sided officiating and make him think twice about Phuc-ing the Rams and risk getting blasted in the media if he calls a one sided game.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Almost 7,000 sigs

Seriously? W0W!

 

[VegasRam]

@Mackeyser - how exactly were you a bookie in the 8th grade?

 

[Tano]

@Mackeyser - how exactly were you a bookie in the 8th grade?

Must have been a thing back then because I was a bookie one week in the 8th grade for the bowl games in 1976 with other class mates.

However most of the other times it was a dude in my 8th grade science class that was the bookie.

 

[RamFan503]

@Mackeyser - how exactly were you a bookie in the 8th grade?

You never watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

 

[dang]

Patriot fans complaining about officiating. Is that because the obvious bias will taint the greatness of their beloved Patriots legacy?

 

[IE Rams]

It almost certainly won't do anything, but I figured it can't hurt to sign:
https://www.change.org/p/roger-good...m_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

Share everywhere you can. Let's get as many Rams fans to sign as possible. At minimum, if we get media attention, it might pressure Vinovitch into calling a fair game.

jrry32, thanks for going through with this hare-brained idea. Because of you, the announcers WILL be talking about Vinovich and the petition, and Vinovich will now be better scrutinized. For once in a long time I’m looking forward to what the announcers are gonna say.
Thanks, and good work. :cheers:

 

[Selassie I]

You never watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

That better not be true. If it is... I'll send him a copy right away.

Is it true @VegasRam ? Please tell me it ain't so.

 

[T-REX]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ved-from-nfc-championship-game-and-heres-why/

Angry Rams fans have started a petition to get ref removed from NFC Championship game and here’s why

• By John Breech
• 10m ago • 1 min read

Rams fans are so upset with the NFL's decision to have referee Bill Vinovich officiate Sunday's NFC Championship that they've actually started a petition to have him removed from the game.

The reason Rams fans are mad is that because they seem to lose every single game that Vinovich is involved in. As we noted earlier this week when the officiating teams were announced, Vinovich has been the ref for eight games involving the Rams since 2012 and they've gone 0-8 in those games. Not only that, but the Rams have been hit with more penalty yardage in seven of the eight games (In the other game, they ended up with the same amount of penalty yardage).

During the 2018 season, the Rams went 0-2 with Vinovich as their referee and that includes their first game with the Saints. During the Saints' 45-35 win over the Rams back in Week 9, there were six accepted penalties in the game with four going against Los Angeles and two going against New Orleans.

The fan who started the petition seems especially frustrated that the league is having the referee from the first game officiate the second game.

From the petition:

"There is no reason to repeat the exact same officiating crew for the rematch in the playoffs, other than to stack the odds for Drew Brees to go out with a ring," the petition states. "There are TONS of other combinations the NFL could have chosen. Whether or not the bias is intentional, there is too much data to demonstrate a pattern, and for a corporation as big as the NFL to not see this pattern is highly unlikely. The magnitude of this game is too large and the referees should be neutral, plain and simple."

The Change.org petition has gained some serious steam this week with more than 7,000 Rams fans signing it as of Saturday morning. Unfortunately for Rams fans, even if 500,000 people sign this petition, there's basically a zero percent chance that the NFL will be pulling Vinovich from the game.

Of course, there is a small silver lining in all of this for the Rams. If they beat the Saints on Sunday, the referee for Super Bowl LIII is John Parry and the Rams have never lost a gamethat he's officiated (7-0).

 

[Mackeyser]

@Mackeyser - how exactly were you a bookie in the 8th grade?

I took bets from kids on fights and ballgames. What’s bad is that I couldn’t spend the money because my parents would have known. The toughest kid in school collected for me and I just let him keep what he collected. I stopped because it was work for nothing.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

The Rams will essentially win or lose based on how they play, not on who the officials are.

There in lies the angst. We all want a fair game that is cleanly called. If that happens then the Rams have a great chance to win. But, after seeing bad calls by Vinovich for the last 6 years that aided in changing momentum, or changed the outcome, it's difficult to trust the guy. It's worse than just losing a fair game. Having something stolen from you is a bad feeling.



The possibility of the NFL choosing winners instead of just letting teams play is another reason many of us worry. Just give us a fair game.

I listen to a lot of radio and today on LA's biggest radio station KFI, 640am, (not a sports talk) they talked about fans from both games complaining about both head officials. Most of the bitching done by Patriot and Rams fans due to their history with Clete Blakeman and Vinobitch. Then later on am 570ESPN with Fred Rogin and some talking head from New Orleans radio station and they have been talking about Vinobitchs" history With the Saints. (they have won most of their games with Vinobitch).

While it's still a bad appointment with the Rams, at least its getting national exposure and may bring Vonobitchs' one sided officiating and make him think twice about Phuc-ing the Rams and risk getting blasted in the media if he calls a one sided game.

Or it could poss him off, because Rams fans are questioning his credibility. If he's crooked hell be angry for being exposed. If he's not, hell be angry for accused. I hope that if the NFL does order refs who to help win, that they told Vinovich to call an even game to kill this view that he throws games on purpose.

 

[-X-]

I took bets from kids on fights and ballgames. What’s bad is that I couldn’t spend the money because my parents would have known. The toughest kid in school collected for me and I just let him keep what he collected. I stopped because it was work for nothing.

That's why I chose to be an entrepreneur instead. In 8th grade I used to walk to school, and each day I'd pick up 4 packs of Bubble Yum for a dollar at the corner store on the way. Each pack had 5 pieces, and I would sell each piece of gum for a quarter throughout the day. Net gain of $20 by the end of the week. Then, in order to destroy the evidence, I'd go to the Arcade every Saturday and blow it all on Asteroids and Space Invaders.

Walking into an arcade at age 13 (in 1979) with two rolls of quarters? Boy, I was a straight PIMP.

 

[UKram]

I’ve said it before it’s not just the calls vinovitch and crew will make tonight it’ll be about what they don’t call as well