Ogletree traded to Giants

[Mikey Ram]

Ok.

That came out of the blue.

In isolation, I don’t have an issue with moving on from Tree. He doesn’t consistently wrap up when tackling and is a liability in the run game. The Rams gave up in excess of 4 yards per rush up the middle last season and Tree, as a MLB, was part of that problem.

However when you take into account the already gaping hole at LB and the players’ reactions, I’m a little concerned about the impact this could have.

To me, I think the player's reaction was to Tree the person, not really Tree the MLB...

 

[DaveFan'51]

Anybody got the outdated ass draft value chart? What could the Rams theoretically get if they just bundled all those 6th round picks? A third rounder maybe?

45-55 points!

 

[Dieter the Brock]

And another trade: Rams trading LB Alec Ogletree to the New York Giants for two 2018 draft picks, per league source. -


View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/971489536164417537

Holy fucking Shit

 

[Dieter the Brock]

 

[Prime Time]

OK! We get the 2nd pick #102 in the 4th round, But the Giants don't have a 6th round pick, that I can find, per Drafttek, so what 6th rounder do we get!!?

View: http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Giants-2018-NFL-Draft-picks-are-set/292ca10f-ff3a-4e8a-b056-bd9bdf20517a

6th round/ 2nd pick/ 176th

 

[Giles27]

It' not like I have a problem with trading tree I'm just confused.
Tree did have problems last year look no further than the playoff loss for a clear example.
The good news is this is a great draft for 3-4 Ilb

 

[thirteen28]

Quinn was in his prime when he signed that contract. I wouldn't loop him in with the others.

Ditto. Quinn was anything but marginal when he signed, and in fact, was one of the most feared pass rushers in the game.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Les, you better hit on these new contracts and FAs! I understand we have to fix our cap but damn, we lost our two veteran leaders on defense. I guess Brockers and Donald will be captains next year.

If we've waited too long to be good and IF we regress..........let's just say that better not happen.

The Rams have coaches who are also known to be good teachers, they will develop some of this young talent and trade others up, this is a deep draft at positions where we require quality depth. jmo.

 

[Adi]

Wade is being given alot of power and trust. He is going to have a completely different defense next season.

 

[JIMERAMS]

AO was horrible last year im not sure why people are upset over this. tackling has nothing to do with playing MLB or outside he just doesn't tackle well at all. bad angles you name it.

 

[BonifayRam]

Assistant Head Coach & LB'er coach Joe Barry is going to have some fun for a while. Barry got a real up close & personal meeting with the best of this years LB'ing prospects during the combine. Think he had some serious recent meetings after the combine with Snead/McVay & Wade?

Its also a very good UFA year for outstanding interior LB'ers ready for new contracts. In addition the 2018 draft prospects appear to be very deep in the amounts of good LB'ers but not at the top of the draft.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:lb

Not sure what will happen with LB/Safety Mark Barron. Is he still a Ram because he is still rehabbing from surgery & not fully healed? Or is Wade looking at beefing up the run stopping from the safety positions with moving him back in @ strong Safety?

Finally Snead is going to have one serious busy third day of the draft this year. Snead has 8 draft selections {@ the moment} on the 3rd day. A 4th, 4th,5th, & five 6th rounders!:seizure:

 

[1maGoh]

OK! We get the 2nd pick #102 in the 4th round, But the Giants don't have a 6th round pick, that I can find, per Drafttek, so what 6th rounder do we get!!?

We're getting comp picks for both, so not the 102.

And yes, they can be traded. It was discussed earlier.

 

[So Ram]

@So Ram you really like Price that much? Why? He hardly played and didn’t look good when he did. He is small and weak.

I admit liked the pick in round 7 because of potential but I don’t ever expect them to make a huge impact.

I think he will be a piece , but not a starter to tell you the truth right now. In training camp & preaseon he kept showing up.
He has more bull power than Quinn imo though. Quinn still has Pro bowl talent. I think he comes more off the left side though.
Longacre really is another piece. Morgan Fox is a grinder & plays the edge well.

—I think The Rams do an excellent job in scouting , & will find the right pieces. I think competition is King !!

Week in & week out you never know who will be healthy.

 

[Riverumbbq]

OK! We get the 2nd pick #102 in the 4th round, But the Giants don't have a 6th round pick, that I can find, per Drafttek, so what 6th rounder do we get!!?

Dave, Draftek didn't account for a 'conditional' pick with Pittsburgh where the Giants received a 6'th (#176) and Pitt received a 7'th (#220). That 6'th (#176) came to us today. Also, that 4'th round pick looks like it may actually be the Giants #135 pick, not the #102 pick we were hoping for. jmo.

 

[lockdnram21]

Whoa there.

Those were facts...

 

[lockdnram21]

Thing is, we HAD a good 4-3 defense before Wade got here. He comes in, and sure we ranked top ten overall, but that's only because teams were running for 7 ypc against us instead of passing. Now we end up getting rid of all of our players to build a 3-4. We're probably two years away from having a middle of the road defense now at this rate.

We had a OK defense

 

[JonRam99]

#yikes NFL = not for long

I heard things here & there about AO but didn't realize he was that bad in our 3-4 scheme. The PFF rank on him? wow. vs. the PFF rank on Joyner.... I did notice a lot of arm / whiff tackles that I thought would stop after Williams left - diving at the ball carrier only to blow past him / above him / etc.
You simply can't miss that many tackles & be an NFL MLB. A WILL maybe. & you can't get paid like a Billy Wagner & tackle like a Pisa T.

 

[Memento]

#yikes NFL = not for long

I heard things here & there about AO but didn't realize he was that bad in our 3-4 scheme. The PFF rank on him? wow. vs. the PFF rank on Joyner.... I did notice a lot of arm / whiff tackles that I thought would stop after Williams left - diving at the ball carrier only to blow past him / above him / etc.
You simply can't miss that many tackles & be an NFL MLB. A WILL maybe. & you can't get paid like a Billy Wagner & tackle like a Pisa T.

Whoa, whoa, let's not bag on Pisa Tinoisamoa. He's one of my favorite defensive players. Seriously.

Also, who is this Billy Wagner you speak of?

 

[JonRam99]

Whoa, whoa, let's not bag on Pisa Tinoisamoa. He's one of my favorite defensive players. Seriously.

LOLOL I was hoping someone would get that reference!
I wonder what ol Pisa T's CTE brain scan looks like... dude hit like a truck, but many times after a nice 5-7 yd gain. One of my fav Rams too from the STL era, he made them worth watching many times. He backed up a very porous DT line IIRC. If we had Pisa T backing up AD now, wowsers.....

 

[Ellard80]

Feels like we should have gotten better than a 4th...