Odell Beckham available for trade?

[Mackeyser]

Honestly it's just a progression of the game, it was the same when X player was the first 10 million dollar player, so on and so forth until today. If we want to play in the best of the best player on our team game they have to be paid like #1 and that's just a reality. Which is why I still don't get Rams fans infatuation with OBJ, mathematically it doesn't work and he's not willing to work with us whatsoever. Donald's contract won't hamper us in the future and obviously any money will have to be differed for the remainder of the contract. Both sides just need to come to an agreement.

You don't win championships with a #1 offense, we need to keep together and complete our team which we are doing with the D and if we want to keep the best defensive player in the league he's going to be the highest paid ever. Next year that will change when someone gets more money and so on and so forth. I'm just ready to set the boundaries sign him and move on.

My point was it was possible to have OBJ come to the Rams with some creativity.

If AD is gonna be above Mack who I think will get around $21/yr, then it's just not going to happen.

I think any wiggle room is lost at that price for AD.

Which is a shame because with as much as AD wants to win, his contract will ultimately be an impediment just like Suh's was. Even if we don't pay Gurley and only pay Goff and maybe Peters, presuming he works out, we're still going to have issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think we're going to be able to compete with anyone. That said, the deep threat on offense is pretty important for spacing.

Thus the idea of having a transcendent talent on the outside was beyond intriguing.

It might have worked.

Now? I can't see any way it does and that feeling I had has really dissipated.

 

[Corbin]

My point was it was possible to have OBJ come to the Rams with some creativity.

If AD is gonna be above Mack who I think will get around $21/yr, then it's just not going to happen.

I think any wiggle room is lost at that price for AD.

Which is a shame because with as much as AD wants to win, his contract will ultimately be an impediment just like Suh's was. Even if we don't pay Gurley and only pay Goff and maybe Peters, presuming he works out, we're still going to have issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think we're going to be able to compete with anyone. That said, the deep threat on offense is pretty important for spacing.

Thus the idea of having a transcendent talent on the outside was beyond intriguing.

It might have worked.

Now? I can't see any way it does and that feeling I had has really dissipated.

I'm sorry Mack him coming here is not going to happen.
It might be nice to think about but it's not going to happen. We aren't going to to trade even close to what's asked for him and then pay him for 20 millish on top of that?

It's fun to talk about but it's not reasonable and all these sights blowing it up more than what it is. We inquired and it's out the price range.

Ps Giants using this to negotiate with him as well... in closing it's called the take away close. They will let him simmer for a bit etc.

 

[dieterbrock]

But but but we can afford to pay all the players!!!

Don’t need blue font. They can

 

[dang]

Rams don't just need a deep threat. They need a red zone target with strong hands. I believe all but one of Watkins TDs were in the red zone including some pretty nice strong handed catches in traffic.

 

[Legatron4]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n=fb-nf-sf185876748-sf185876748&sf185876748=1

 

[Legatron4]

It would take a huge haul to pry Odell BeckhamJr. from the New York Giants, but the team's decision to not put the kibosh on trade talks will keep rumors flying.

The team rumored to be most interested in acquiring the game-changing receiver is the Los Angeles Rams. Sean McVay's team is deep into all-in mode this offseason, and it's believed its interest in possibly acquiring OBJ is real, per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero.

It feels like L.A.'s No. 23 overall pick in the draft has a huge 'for sale' sign on it if the return is a great veteran player. Beckham is the crème de la crème.





It would take a lot to pair OBJ and the Rams. First, L.A. would need to bowl over the Giantswith an offer. Then New York would have to admit they're in full-on rebuild mode and don't want to pay Beckham for the long-term. Then the Ramswould have to decide whether to give the mercurial but uber-talented receiver a massive contract extension.

The one thing that wouldn't be a roadblock in the Beckham-to-L.A. fantasy: how he'd fit in the offense.

"There's always enough snaps," running back Todd Gurley, speaking hypothetically, said grinning on Tuesday, via the Los Angeles Times. "There's always enough snaps.

"If we had him, man, it would be awesome. I'd be happy, [Jared] Goff will be happy, coach [Sean] McVay will be happy, [owner Stan] Kroenke, the whole team would be."

A generational talent who carried a decrepit offense the last several years? I think every team could make room for that. In L.A., Beckham would morph the NFL's highest-scoring offense into a hazardous pick-your-poison operation that would make defensive coordinators weep during film sessions.

This is all hypothetical, of course.

Gurley was asked whether Beckham personally expressed interest in joining L.A.

"Hmm, I don't want to say all that," he said with a smile, per The Times. "That's my boy."

Unless sides pull the trigger on a massive, landscape-changing deal, that's all Beckham and Gurley will be: boys, not teammates.

 

[DaveFan'51]

OBJ may be the most 'Famous' Football Player around today but that doesn't mean he's worth Breaking the Bank and ruining the Locker Room over!

 

[Mackeyser]

After all this...hand-wringing, I'm over it.

I'll cheer for whoever they get. If OBJ comes, fine. If not, fine.

I'm increasingly finding that the juice isn't worth the squeeze to play fantasy GM.

And I don't want any of this to ruin my enjoyment of what is almost sure to be very entertaining and hopefully with lots of wins including the Super Bowl!

 

[Loyal]

I want AD signed and I want the defense finished with goo LBers/edge rushers and maybe some OL depth. But hey, if Snead/McVay decide that OBJ is a must, then so be it. They know more than I...

 

[Mackeyser]

I want AD signed and I want the defense finished with goo LBers/edge rushers and maybe some OL depth. But hey, if Snead/McVay decide that OBJ is a must, then so be it. They know more than I...

Yeah, I totally agree.

 

[Loyal]

After all this...hand-wringing, I'm over it.

I'll cheer for whoever they get. If OBJ comes, fine. If not, fine.

I'm increasingly finding that the juice isn't worth the squeeze to play fantasy GM.

And I don't want any of this to ruin my enjoyment of what is almost sure to be very entertaining and hopefully with lots of wins including the Super Bowl!

BINGO

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://i.imgur.com/h8a8Vhm.gifv

 

[Ramhusker]

Overthecap is good for what they do, but I'm not going to trust their work (and this writer's work) over Demoff. When have we ever been in cap trouble under Demoff? The guy knows what he's doing. I bet their numbers aren't accurate.

Yeah, something doesn't add up. I thought not long ago, we had $29M in cap space with the draft class already accounted for and the only transactions I can think of was Suh (29-14=15) and Ramik Wilson which I have no idea what the amount of his signing cost us. Wasn't Sullivan already signed before we landed Suh? If not, we'd still have $10M because you don't add incentives to current year right since you don't know if they are going to be met. Then minus Ramik's deal right? Anybody know what he inked for?

 

[Farr Be It]

I need to make an apology to Jake Ellenbogan from DowntownRams. I really thought that I heard a source which I mentioned here. I was totally wrong. Please don't blame him for revealing a source,which he did not do. I am so sorry.

@LoyalRam got Jake kidnapped by the North Koreans!!

 

[XXXIVwin]

Overthecap is good for what they do, but I'm not going to trust their work (and this writer's work) over Demoff. When have we ever been in cap trouble under Demoff? The guy knows what he's doing. I bet their numbers aren't accurate.

But but but blue font comments!

 

[Akrasian]

Yeah, something doesn't add up. I thought not long ago, we had $29M in cap space with the draft class already accounted for and the only transactions I can think of was Suh (29-14=15) and Ramik Wilson which I have no idea what the amount of his signing cost us. Wasn't Sullivan already signed before we landed Suh? If not, we'd still have $10M because you don't add incentives to current year right since you don't know if they are going to be met. Then minus Ramik's deal right? Anybody know what he inked for?

Initially sites like Over The Cap did not list Sullivan's cap hit, since it was not known. Later on, it was listed. Whether any incentives count for the 2018 league year depends on whether they are likely to be achieved. That depends on what happened in 2017. So if he gets an incentive per game started, and he started 15 games in 2017, the amount of incentives that count towards 2018 is what the contract calls for 15 starts. If he starts fewer, then there is a rebate that counts towards the 2019 year. If he starts all 16, then a little extra salary counts towards 2019.

Also, the Rams need to keep space for the practice squad - around 1.25 million for them, sometimes slightly more. They also need to keep cap space for emergencies - injuries, bonuses paid to UDFAs who don't make the team, etc. Last year the Rams kept a bit over $5 million in reserve, which rolled over to this season. $3 million is at the lower edge of normal - it's getting to the point where if a team has a number of injury signings they could run out of cap space and have to renegotiate contracts just to have a full roster by the end of the season.

 

[FarNorth]

Rams don't just need a deep threat. They need a red zone target with strong hands. I believe all but one of Watkins TDs were in the red zone including some pretty nice strong handed catches in traffic.

Maybe Suh could run the goal line slant

 

[jrry32]

Exactly. With Demoff's approach of front-loading contracts over the past few years, we've often been spending under the cap in real terms. We have a window where we can spend big if that's our desire. Personally, I am not a huge fan of that because I think our window is going to stay open as long as we have this coaching staff and a healthy Goff, but I understand why Demoff, McVay, Snead, etc. want to go all in before we have to pay Goff. We have a ton of cap room available in the future because Demoff structured contracts for years to give us future cap flexibility for a day like this.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that we go with the lesser push to keep the window open longer. We're seeing Seattle having to pay the price for making their big push. If we still want to land a big name in the passing game and Gronk is really on the block, he might be the perfect option for our future cap health.

 

[Akrasian]

Based on the drafting in the first year, I think it's likely that a McVay team could keep the window open for many years. But if the team spends all of its cap room for years, there will be a crash. I also believe that the benefit from overspending is a case of diminishing returns. The Rams can keep adding by trading picks and using huge signing bonuses - but a key injury at the wrong time, or a fluke play or two in the playoffs, and the Rams will fall short. But with care, the Rams can be contenders every year for as long as McVay is with the team, with multiple Super Bowls.

Add in that going for every star means that there cannot be depth for the team, and the chance of negative flukes probably increases.

I was ambivalent on Suh - and his salary will hurt depth, this season or next. But he is a great player, and no picks were required. In fact, he will likely get the Rams a late third or fourth round pick in a few years.

To protect the Rams' key player, they need to have some resources for the OL, more than they need to trade a huge amount in picks plus to destroy cap space for years. I'd rather the Rams use their first on finishing up the defense, but better to use it on a WR or TE than use it and other picks for OBJ plus borrow from the future to pay him.