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Context is so important.
If Rams moved up to the top of first round on draft day to get Ramsey, giving up a bottom half first and the following years first, people would be applauding them. Funny how time of year sets the narrative.
Saints did something similar to get Davenport in 2018 draft. They traded their bottom of the first round pick in that draft and their 2019 first pick to move up to #14 overall. No one was screaming that they mortgaged their future.
If Rams moved up to the top of first round on draft day to get Ramsey, giving up a bottom half first and the following years first, people would be applauding them. Funny how time of year sets the narrative.
Saints did something similar to get Davenport in 2018 draft. They traded their bottom of the first round pick in that draft and their 2019 first pick to move up to #14 overall. No one was screaming that they mortgaged their future.
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Rams' Jalen Ramsey trade is good news for 49ers, Seahawks and Cardinals
Written By Vinnie Iyer
The Rams made their latest splash move Tuesday by trading for Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey. On the surface, it seems Los Angeles made a necessary move to upgrade its struggling 3-3 team after putting top corner Aqib Talib on injured reserve and trading No. 2 corner Marcus Peters to the Ravens. Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
The 49ers (5-0) and Seahakws (5-1), now the two best teams in the division, just beat the Rams in back-to-back weeks. Don't look now, but the Cardinals at 2-3-1 are only a half-game out of third place and improving each week.
San Francisco smashed LA in Week 6 because it dominated the Rams' offensive line. Seattle edged LA in Week 5 because it handled the Rams' defensive front by keeping Russell Wilson clean and rushing with high effectiveness. But the biggest reason the Rams are losing is their running game with Todd Gurley and others is down to No. 23 after ranking No. 3 last season. Their run defense remains mediocre at best, and even with Aaron Donald up front, they are tied for 19th in the NFL with just 13 sacks.
Offensively, the Rams miss the inside blocking combination of Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan, and the season-ending knee injury to left guard Joe Noteboom prompted the desperation trade for Austin Corbett, a bust of a Browns draft pick. Defensively, they also miss the supporting inside pop of Ndamukong Suh next to Donald, who is on pace for only 8 sacks. Clay Matthews was a welcome addition off the edge, but now he is out for a while with a jaw injury.
The combination of those issues means Ramsey is not capable of making the Rams that much better, especially against their division rivals.The 49ers don't have a go-to wideout in their run-heavy offense, and Ramsey does not match up well with tight end George Kittle.The Seahawks also are a run-heavy team, and their most dangerous receiver, Tyler Lockett, mostly lines up in the slot.
The Cardinals have not yet played the Rams, but their 10 personnel looks, spreading the field with four receivers, will limit how much of a factor Ramsey can be in that matchup.
Sure, Ramsey can help the Rams right away in trying to slow down the Falcons' Julio Jones in Week 7. But the Rams can win that game with offense, anyway. They can do the same in upcoming games against the Bengals and Steelers. But for matchups in the second half of the season against teams like the Bears, Ravens and Cowboys, plus their four remaining division games, the Rams will still have plenty of defensive (and offensive) woes elsewhere.
Beyond this season, the Rams thanks to the Ramsey trade are now further salary-cap strapped. The Gurley contract looks bad now, and the big investment in Jared Goff doesn't bring a good vibe, either. They also don't have the critical high draft capital to address some glaring holes over the next two years.
With the Ramsey move, the Rams are doubling down on their all-in approach with limited chips. But it's a gamble that will only put them in a bigger hole, much to the delight of their quickly rising division foes.
Written By Vinnie Iyer
The Rams made their latest splash move Tuesday by trading for Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey. On the surface, it seems Los Angeles made a necessary move to upgrade its struggling 3-3 team after putting top corner Aqib Talib on injured reserve and trading No. 2 corner Marcus Peters to the Ravens. Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
The 49ers (5-0) and Seahakws (5-1), now the two best teams in the division, just beat the Rams in back-to-back weeks. Don't look now, but the Cardinals at 2-3-1 are only a half-game out of third place and improving each week.
San Francisco smashed LA in Week 6 because it dominated the Rams' offensive line. Seattle edged LA in Week 5 because it handled the Rams' defensive front by keeping Russell Wilson clean and rushing with high effectiveness. But the biggest reason the Rams are losing is their running game with Todd Gurley and others is down to No. 23 after ranking No. 3 last season. Their run defense remains mediocre at best, and even with Aaron Donald up front, they are tied for 19th in the NFL with just 13 sacks.
Offensively, the Rams miss the inside blocking combination of Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan, and the season-ending knee injury to left guard Joe Noteboom prompted the desperation trade for Austin Corbett, a bust of a Browns draft pick. Defensively, they also miss the supporting inside pop of Ndamukong Suh next to Donald, who is on pace for only 8 sacks. Clay Matthews was a welcome addition off the edge, but now he is out for a while with a jaw injury.
The combination of those issues means Ramsey is not capable of making the Rams that much better, especially against their division rivals.The 49ers don't have a go-to wideout in their run-heavy offense, and Ramsey does not match up well with tight end George Kittle.The Seahawks also are a run-heavy team, and their most dangerous receiver, Tyler Lockett, mostly lines up in the slot.
The Cardinals have not yet played the Rams, but their 10 personnel looks, spreading the field with four receivers, will limit how much of a factor Ramsey can be in that matchup.
Sure, Ramsey can help the Rams right away in trying to slow down the Falcons' Julio Jones in Week 7. But the Rams can win that game with offense, anyway. They can do the same in upcoming games against the Bengals and Steelers. But for matchups in the second half of the season against teams like the Bears, Ravens and Cowboys, plus their four remaining division games, the Rams will still have plenty of defensive (and offensive) woes elsewhere.
Beyond this season, the Rams thanks to the Ramsey trade are now further salary-cap strapped. The Gurley contract looks bad now, and the big investment in Jared Goff doesn't bring a good vibe, either. They also don't have the critical high draft capital to address some glaring holes over the next two years.
With the Ramsey move, the Rams are doubling down on their all-in approach with limited chips. But it's a gamble that will only put them in a bigger hole, much to the delight of their quickly rising division foes.
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Opinion: Los Angeles Rams GM Les Snead disappoints again with flashy trade
Just Eli’s opinion, but the Rams front office has again botched team-building.
By Elijah Kim
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Yesterday, the Los Angeles Rams made waves.
I love the Rams. They’ve been my team since I moved to the US from South Korea. Despite getting egged on for being a Cleveland Browns fan from my fellow TSTers (because I lived in Ohio and just moved from there to California), the Rams will always be my team. However, even with a big name trade netting perhaps the best cornerback in the NFL, my heart only hurts because this move only continues a dangerous trend by GM Lester Snead.
First, was the move to acquire Browns interior OL Austin Corbett.
Corbett was the 33rd overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, and yet he only started one game in his NFL career. In fact, Corbett has only played in 13 games primarily on PAT/Field Goal. Still, the Rams gave up a fifth-round pick for a special teams contributor. Sure, maybe a change of scenery will help, but this is a player that couldn’t beat out Eric Kush who Rams General Manager Les Snead cut before Kush tore his hamstring and missed a whole season. A fifth-round pick doesn’t kill a team build; however, the Rams have continued to use draft picks after draft picks to try and get the offensive line right for the long term. It just hassn’t seem to work.
Look at Snead’s draft history for the OL since taking over drafts in 2012:
2012 - Rokevious Watkins (5th round)
2013 - Barrett Jones (4th round)
2014 - Greg Robinson (1st round, 2nd overall LOL), Mitchell Van Dyk (7th round), Demetrius Rhaney (7th round)
2015 - Rob Havenstein (2nd round, first OL to earn second contract), Jamon Brown (3rd round), Andrew Donnal (4th round), Cody Wichmann (6th round)
2016 - None
2017 - None
2018 - Joe Noteboom (3rd round), Brian Allen (4th round), Jamil Demby (6th round)
2019 - Bobby Evans (3rd round), David Edwards (5th round)
A staggering 14 players drafted and yet only one has earned a second contract. Heck, look at the current offensive line now as it involves from left to right a free agent (Andrew Whitworth), late overmatched draft pick (Demby), struggling center (Allen), free agent (Austin Blythe), and one developed player (Havenstein).
Next was the move to trade away CB Marcus Peters for a linebacker and 2020 NFL Draft fifth-round draft pick:
This move made some sense. The Rams liked Kenny Young and weren’t going to re-sign Peters after inconsistent play. However, Peters joins the long list of defensive backs that for some reason, Les Snead and the front office does not want to re-sign:
AND YET, the RAMS decided to trade not one, but TWO first-round picks AND a fourth-round pick as well for ANOTHER defensive back. The Rams’ front office does not extend defensive backs (except for Nickell Robey-Coleman) and yet, now they will either do so for the first time in a very long time OR make one of the most puzzling trades in history.
It was a busy day for the Rams, but busy does not always mean good. In the Slack room yesterday, the room was buzzing with debate and mixed opinions. Sure, the Rams were able to secure the services of Jalen Ramsey at a steep cost, but the trend only continues. Snead either can’t or refuses to build the team the traditional route and the price tag only continues to get delayed and larger in terms of the overall health of the team.
Perhaps Snead is afraid of making a big mistake after selecting players like Greg Robinson, Tavon Austin, and Alec Ogletree in the first round. Those mistakes were even further more hurtful after Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff and Vice President of Football & Business Administration Tony Pastoors tore up two years of rookie contract to make Austin a top-5 paid receiver and extended Ogletree to be a top-5 paid linebacker.
Sure, Snead hit on Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald, but is he too scared to make a call in round one? Why is Snead so adamant about trading away YEARS of cost control before the CBA expires?
Snead has burned draft picks in win-now moves and, by hook or crook, the Rams earned a trip to the Super Bowl last season. But soon, the bill will be due and unfortunately, it is going to cost the Rams a chunk of their team, especially starting next season when inflated salaries start to kick in.
The Rams will always be my team, but seeing the window of contention being possibly closed shut due to controllable decisions is more painful than watching something else take over. Los Angeles will be in the headlines for making a splashy trade. Unfortunately, it only continues to be mostly flash and not a lot of substance just like the majority of Snead’s tenure as GM.
Just Eli’s opinion, but the Rams front office has again botched team-building.
By Elijah Kim
Opinion: Los Angeles Rams GM Les Snead disappoints again with flashy trade
Just Eli’s opinion, but the Rams front office has again botched team-building.
www.turfshowtimes.com
Yesterday, the Los Angeles Rams made waves.
I love the Rams. They’ve been my team since I moved to the US from South Korea. Despite getting egged on for being a Cleveland Browns fan from my fellow TSTers (because I lived in Ohio and just moved from there to California), the Rams will always be my team. However, even with a big name trade netting perhaps the best cornerback in the NFL, my heart only hurts because this move only continues a dangerous trend by GM Lester Snead.
First, was the move to acquire Browns interior OL Austin Corbett.
Corbett was the 33rd overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, and yet he only started one game in his NFL career. In fact, Corbett has only played in 13 games primarily on PAT/Field Goal. Still, the Rams gave up a fifth-round pick for a special teams contributor. Sure, maybe a change of scenery will help, but this is a player that couldn’t beat out Eric Kush who Rams General Manager Les Snead cut before Kush tore his hamstring and missed a whole season. A fifth-round pick doesn’t kill a team build; however, the Rams have continued to use draft picks after draft picks to try and get the offensive line right for the long term. It just hassn’t seem to work.
Look at Snead’s draft history for the OL since taking over drafts in 2012:
2012 - Rokevious Watkins (5th round)
2013 - Barrett Jones (4th round)
2014 - Greg Robinson (1st round, 2nd overall LOL), Mitchell Van Dyk (7th round), Demetrius Rhaney (7th round)
2015 - Rob Havenstein (2nd round, first OL to earn second contract), Jamon Brown (3rd round), Andrew Donnal (4th round), Cody Wichmann (6th round)
2016 - None
2017 - None
2018 - Joe Noteboom (3rd round), Brian Allen (4th round), Jamil Demby (6th round)
2019 - Bobby Evans (3rd round), David Edwards (5th round)
A staggering 14 players drafted and yet only one has earned a second contract. Heck, look at the current offensive line now as it involves from left to right a free agent (Andrew Whitworth), late overmatched draft pick (Demby), struggling center (Allen), free agent (Austin Blythe), and one developed player (Havenstein).
Next was the move to trade away CB Marcus Peters for a linebacker and 2020 NFL Draft fifth-round draft pick:
This move made some sense. The Rams liked Kenny Young and weren’t going to re-sign Peters after inconsistent play. However, Peters joins the long list of defensive backs that for some reason, Les Snead and the front office does not want to re-sign:
AND YET, the RAMS decided to trade not one, but TWO first-round picks AND a fourth-round pick as well for ANOTHER defensive back. The Rams’ front office does not extend defensive backs (except for Nickell Robey-Coleman) and yet, now they will either do so for the first time in a very long time OR make one of the most puzzling trades in history.
It was a busy day for the Rams, but busy does not always mean good. In the Slack room yesterday, the room was buzzing with debate and mixed opinions. Sure, the Rams were able to secure the services of Jalen Ramsey at a steep cost, but the trend only continues. Snead either can’t or refuses to build the team the traditional route and the price tag only continues to get delayed and larger in terms of the overall health of the team.
Perhaps Snead is afraid of making a big mistake after selecting players like Greg Robinson, Tavon Austin, and Alec Ogletree in the first round. Those mistakes were even further more hurtful after Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff and Vice President of Football & Business Administration Tony Pastoors tore up two years of rookie contract to make Austin a top-5 paid receiver and extended Ogletree to be a top-5 paid linebacker.
Sure, Snead hit on Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald, but is he too scared to make a call in round one? Why is Snead so adamant about trading away YEARS of cost control before the CBA expires?
Snead has burned draft picks in win-now moves and, by hook or crook, the Rams earned a trip to the Super Bowl last season. But soon, the bill will be due and unfortunately, it is going to cost the Rams a chunk of their team, especially starting next season when inflated salaries start to kick in.
The Rams will always be my team, but seeing the window of contention being possibly closed shut due to controllable decisions is more painful than watching something else take over. Los Angeles will be in the headlines for making a splashy trade. Unfortunately, it only continues to be mostly flash and not a lot of substance just like the majority of Snead’s tenure as GM.
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Rams give up too much for Jalen Ramsey? Here's GM Les Snead's philosophy: 'We’re not going to be scared'
Kimberley A. Martin
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The dimmed lights create an intimate setting that soon provides a peek inside the mind of one of the NFL’s most influential figures.
Everything about him — the hooded sweatshirt, the blue baseball cap obscuring a haircut he’s somewhat displeased with, and the syrupy Southern lilt — belies the frenetic pace of his racing thoughts and his never-ending quest to crush the competition.
“We’re not going to be scared. But we’re not going to be reckless,” Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead said with a smile last Friday, as he opened up about his philosophy on building a team.
Those words — uttered near the conclusion of a 45-minute sit-down interview with Yahoo Sports inside the team’s defensive meeting room — proved to be a harbinger of yet another jaw-dropping move orchestrated by Snead. Two weeks before the NFL trade deadline, he reshaped his secondary in a matter of hours, and more importantly, left no doubt about whether or not the Rams still believe they can win it all in 2019.
After acquiring center Austin Corbett from Cleveland, they traded cornerback Marcus Peters to the Baltimore Ravens in order to set the stage for their biggest coup of the calendar year: Bringing Jalen Ramsey to L.A.
The Rams traded two first-round picks (in 2020 and 2021) and a fourth-rounder (in 2021) in exchange for Jacksonville’s disgruntled cornerback — a bold move that sent shock waves across social media and stunned many within NFL circles. While it may seem like the defending NFC champions are a shell of themselves on the field, Snead remains unchanged behind closed doors.
Blockbuster deals and big-money contracts have typified his tenure with the Rams, dating back to his 2012 arrival in St. Louis. And now, with his team mired in a three-game losing streak, “Super Bowl hangover” questions hanging overhead and a new, $5 billion stadium on the horizon, Snead isn't about to stop being aggressive.
“We only live once, so don’t live your life scared,” Snead told Yahoo Sports, only four days before orchestrating the Ramsey trade. “… Any time you make a move, you do try to have protocols in place that can help you make sound decisions. But you’re not playing for the tie. You’re trying to go win.”
Part executive, part philosopher, part psychologist, the 48-year-old has always been meticulous in his mission of rebuilding the Rams from NFL doormat to proven winner. He’s a voracious reader who spends as much time combing autobiographies and history books for insight he can apply to his daily life as he does studying his football opponents each week. The gluten-free dieter prides himself on being an outside-the-box thinker, a football mind who isn’t afraid to gamble every now and then. And at this pivotal juncture, Snead doesn’t really have a choice.
The L.A. luster has worn off these new-look Rams at the worst possible time.The high-octane, Todd Gurley-powered offense that propelled them to Super Bowl LIII was instantly vanquished by Bill Belichick’s masterful game plan. Since then, the Rams haven't looked the same.
Talk of Gurley’s arthritic knee, the subpar play of quarterback Jared Goff and questions about Sean McVay’s genius and their disappearing defense are the backdrop to their current three-game skid — the first such losing streak of McVay’s head-coaching tenure. And while they don’t appear to be as desperate for fan support as their soon-to-be stadium roommates, the Los Angeles Chargers, last Sunday’s loss to San Francisco (5-0) provided a depressing glimpse into the Rams’ potential future if they fail to make the playoffs.
Bad teams have a hard time selling PSLs and season tickets. Also, generating buzz in a market like L.A. — where once-proud Rams faithfuls were forgotten about for two decades and later replaced by a transient, fickle fan base nestled next to Hollywood — is far more difficult than it appears.
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Rams give up too much for Jalen Ramsey? Here's GM Les Snead's philosophy: 'We’re not going to be scared'
Blockbuster deals and big contracts have typified his tenure with the Rams. With Super Bowl hangover questions hanging overhead and a $5B stadium on the horizon, Snead isn't about to stop now.
sports.yahoo.com
The dimmed lights create an intimate setting that soon provides a peek inside the mind of one of the NFL’s most influential figures.
Everything about him — the hooded sweatshirt, the blue baseball cap obscuring a haircut he’s somewhat displeased with, and the syrupy Southern lilt — belies the frenetic pace of his racing thoughts and his never-ending quest to crush the competition.
“We’re not going to be scared. But we’re not going to be reckless,” Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead said with a smile last Friday, as he opened up about his philosophy on building a team.
Those words — uttered near the conclusion of a 45-minute sit-down interview with Yahoo Sports inside the team’s defensive meeting room — proved to be a harbinger of yet another jaw-dropping move orchestrated by Snead. Two weeks before the NFL trade deadline, he reshaped his secondary in a matter of hours, and more importantly, left no doubt about whether or not the Rams still believe they can win it all in 2019.
After acquiring center Austin Corbett from Cleveland, they traded cornerback Marcus Peters to the Baltimore Ravens in order to set the stage for their biggest coup of the calendar year: Bringing Jalen Ramsey to L.A.
The Rams traded two first-round picks (in 2020 and 2021) and a fourth-rounder (in 2021) in exchange for Jacksonville’s disgruntled cornerback — a bold move that sent shock waves across social media and stunned many within NFL circles. While it may seem like the defending NFC champions are a shell of themselves on the field, Snead remains unchanged behind closed doors.
Blockbuster deals and big-money contracts have typified his tenure with the Rams, dating back to his 2012 arrival in St. Louis. And now, with his team mired in a three-game losing streak, “Super Bowl hangover” questions hanging overhead and a new, $5 billion stadium on the horizon, Snead isn't about to stop being aggressive.
“We only live once, so don’t live your life scared,” Snead told Yahoo Sports, only four days before orchestrating the Ramsey trade. “… Any time you make a move, you do try to have protocols in place that can help you make sound decisions. But you’re not playing for the tie. You’re trying to go win.”
Part executive, part philosopher, part psychologist, the 48-year-old has always been meticulous in his mission of rebuilding the Rams from NFL doormat to proven winner. He’s a voracious reader who spends as much time combing autobiographies and history books for insight he can apply to his daily life as he does studying his football opponents each week. The gluten-free dieter prides himself on being an outside-the-box thinker, a football mind who isn’t afraid to gamble every now and then. And at this pivotal juncture, Snead doesn’t really have a choice.
The L.A. luster has worn off these new-look Rams at the worst possible time.The high-octane, Todd Gurley-powered offense that propelled them to Super Bowl LIII was instantly vanquished by Bill Belichick’s masterful game plan. Since then, the Rams haven't looked the same.
Talk of Gurley’s arthritic knee, the subpar play of quarterback Jared Goff and questions about Sean McVay’s genius and their disappearing defense are the backdrop to their current three-game skid — the first such losing streak of McVay’s head-coaching tenure. And while they don’t appear to be as desperate for fan support as their soon-to-be stadium roommates, the Los Angeles Chargers, last Sunday’s loss to San Francisco (5-0) provided a depressing glimpse into the Rams’ potential future if they fail to make the playoffs.
Bad teams have a hard time selling PSLs and season tickets. Also, generating buzz in a market like L.A. — where once-proud Rams faithfuls were forgotten about for two decades and later replaced by a transient, fickle fan base nestled next to Hollywood — is far more difficult than it appears.
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Deion Sanders: Jalen Ramsey may not be with the Rams for very long
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Deion Sanders: Jalen Ramsey may not be with the Rams for very long
Cornerback Jalen Ramsey officially is a member of the Rams. So how long will that continue? Maybe not very long. By giving up two first-round picks and a fourth-round pick to acquire Ramsey, the Ra…
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I'm guessing that this guy is not a very good chess player. What is with the myopic perspective?Rams' Jalen Ramsey trade is good news for 49ers, Seahawks and Cardinals
Written By Vinnie Iyer
The Rams made their latest splash move Tuesday by trading for Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey. On the surface, it seems Los Angeles made a necessary move to upgrade its struggling 3-3 team after putting top corner Aqib Talib on injured reserve and trading No. 2 corner Marcus Peters to the Ravens. Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
Acquiring Ramsey, however, helps the Rams only a little in the short term and hurts them in the long term. Not only did Ramsey cost LA first-round draft picks in 2020 and '21, but now the team is virtually locked into giving him a lucrative contract extension.
Going into Week 7, the Rams have the NFL's No. 14 pass defense. Ranked right behind them is Ramsey's former team, the Jaguars, and that's with the star corner having missed half of their games. With Ramsey unlikely to give the Rams an adequate return on their huge investment, the rest of the NFC West should be thrilled they decided to exhaust such resources on him. What's worse for LA it that Ramsey does not equip them better to handle San Francisco, Seattle and Arizona.
The 49ers (5-0) and Seahakws (5-1), now the two best teams in the division, just beat the Rams in back-to-back weeks. Don't look now, but the Cardinals at 2-3-1 are only a half-game out of third place and improving each week.
San Francisco smashed LA in Week 6 because it dominated the Rams' offensive line. Seattle edged LA in Week 5 because it handled the Rams' defensive front by keeping Russell Wilson clean and rushing with high effectiveness. But the biggest reason the Rams are losing is their running game with Todd Gurley and others is down to No. 23 after ranking No. 3 last season. Their run defense remains mediocre at best, and even with Aaron Donald up front, they are tied for 19th in the NFL with just 13 sacks.
Offensively, the Rams miss the inside blocking combination of Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan, and the season-ending knee injury to left guard Joe Noteboom prompted the desperation trade for Austin Corbett, a bust of a Browns draft pick. Defensively, they also miss the supporting inside pop of Ndamukong Suh next to Donald, who is on pace for only 8 sacks. Clay Matthews was a welcome addition off the edge, but now he is out for a while with a jaw injury.
The combination of those issues means Ramsey is not capable of making the Rams that much better, especially against their division rivals.The 49ers don't have a go-to wideout in their run-heavy offense, and Ramsey does not match up well with tight end George Kittle.The Seahawks also are a run-heavy team, and their most dangerous receiver, Tyler Lockett, mostly lines up in the slot.
The Cardinals have not yet played the Rams, but their 10 personnel looks, spreading the field with four receivers, will limit how much of a factor Ramsey can be in that matchup.
Sure, Ramsey can help the Rams right away in trying to slow down the Falcons' Julio Jones in Week 7. But the Rams can win that game with offense, anyway. They can do the same in upcoming games against the Bengals and Steelers. But for matchups in the second half of the season against teams like the Bears, Ravens and Cowboys, plus their four remaining division games, the Rams will still have plenty of defensive (and offensive) woes elsewhere.
Beyond this season, the Rams thanks to the Ramsey trade are now further salary-cap strapped. The Gurley contract looks bad now, and the big investment in Jared Goff doesn't bring a good vibe, either. They also don't have the critical high draft capital to address some glaring holes over the next two years.
With the Ramsey move, the Rams are doubling down on their all-in approach with limited chips. But it's a gamble that will only put them in a bigger hole, much to the delight of their quickly rising division foes.
The Rams were already behind their division foes in the standings and had recently lost to two of them.
This helps the team now and certainly does not preclude future trades.
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Why are the Rams willing to trade so many first-round picks?
They won’t draft in the first round for the next FIVE years.
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By: Henry McKenna | October 16, 2019
The Los Angeles Rams think they have found a player in cornerback Jalen Ramsey who will have an impact on their defense like linebacker Khalil Mack did for the Chicago Bears. In fact, the Rams probably think Ramsey will have an even bigger impact than Mack. Los Angeles’ haul for Ramsey exceeded what the Bears gave for Mack.
The Rams got Ramsey, and sent a 2020 first-round pick, 2021 first-round pick and 2021 fourth-round pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars. As a result, the Rams are on pace to go FIVE years without making a selection in the first round. They haven’t picked in the first round since 2016 when they selected quarterback Jared Goff. And the Rams won’t pick in the first round until 2022. (At this pace, they’ll probably get rid of that pick, too.)
First round picks are supposed to be one of the most valuable pieces in football, right? They provide NFL teams with a rent-controlled player, who should quickly contribute as a starter — right? So what are the Rams thinking as they continue to bail on key building blocks to add stars, who will consume enormous cap space?
1. They think they can win now — and in the coming years
It’s clear the Rams think they can win enough games to make sure the picks they sent to the Jaguars will fall in the 25 to 32 range, an area in the draft where players get increasingly risky, particularly with the number of redshirt sophomores declaring for the draft (a small sample size of film should make for a higher bust rate).
Los Angeles is coming off a Super Bowl appearance, and the franchise seems to have aspirations of winning it this year. The problem is that their division has two of the best teams in football: the San Francisco 49ers (5-0) and the Seattle Seahawks (5-1). And so the Rams (3-3) sit at third in their division in tremendous danger of missing the playoffs.
But that can change.
Their offensive line is playing poorly, which is trickling down to Goff (and he’s got some problems of his own) and running back Todd Gurley. So a cornerback isn’t going to solve those offensive issues. Ramsey’s assessment of Goff in 2018 — “average to above average” — is looking accurate, which is particularly scary because the Rams paid Goff an absurd sum (four years, $134 million) this offseason. But again, that can change.
It’s not like the Rams don’t have talent. The offensive line is playing poorly, but it features three of the same offensive linemen (including two of the same tackles) as they had in Super Bowl LIII. There are reasons to believe they can and will play better, even if their two new starters have been really bad.
Goff looks stunted in his development, which is hindering the offense’s ability to perform. But the losses don’t fall exclusively on him — he was actually clutch in a loss to the Seahawks. The Rams clearly believes he can reach a higher plane of play — otherwise they wouldn’t have given him $57 million guaranteed dollars in his new deal.
Los Angeles looks like a team that’s battling a Super Bowl hangover. The Rams seemed to be hoping that’s all it is, and that there’s not something structurally wrong with their organization.
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Deion Sanders: Jalen Ramsey may not be with the Rams for very long
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Deion Sanders: Jalen Ramsey may not be with the Rams for very long
Cornerback Jalen Ramsey officially is a member of the Rams. So how long will that continue? Maybe not very long. By giving up two first-round picks and a fourth-round pick to acquire Ramsey, the Ra…
Not sure the taxes are gonna scare Jalen off
He was in Jacksonville....(no taxes) and wanted out
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Nah, I'm warming up to it really.I take it you don’t like this trade
I think corners are definitely less risky in the draft and I personally think they should have acquired depth at the position before it was desperate, but I don't mind the recent trend to value proven talent over draft picks.
It comes at a cost towards the cap though, which they've recently gambled on reducing unsuccessfully with the offensive line, but that's a tricky position that requires more time to develop.
We casually view turnover and upgrades at lower levels of the roster, but such a thing shouldn't be inconceivable at higher levels.
I tend to agree with the organization as it views Ramsey as a greater value to the team than other highly valued players, and so a change needed to be made.
One thing is certain, it's that current management doesn't have a kung fu death grip on sunk costs, which I really appreciate.