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What leverage does he have now? STL can build a stadium for any team. It doesn't have to be the Rams anymore. It's like when you're really into a chick but she's into another dude. Then the other dude starts banging her after she told you she's not interested in you as anything more than a friend. Then the dude dumps her and she comes to you looking for affection while saying she hopes that other dude comes to his senses. So do you (aka the fans) get involved with her, or do you say, "freak off. You had your chance."
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Doesn't that assume that LA would tell the Rams to get out? How do we know the girl isn't going to live happily ever after with this guy, and all you really had to do was take her to dinner a little more a buy her a nice new ring?
 
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Doesn't that assume that LA would tell the Rams to get out? How do we know the girl isn't going to live happily ever after with this guy, and all you really had to do was take her to dinner a little more a buy her a nice new ring?
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But what if she's secretly a lesbian?

Win/win?
 
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But what if she's secretly a lesbian?

Win/win?
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What if she really wants to bring in this dude for a threeway and you're pretty sure he's way bigger than you?

Lose/Lose


Fuck it, maybe send her back to her high school boyfriend, who's fat, awkward and never going anywhere.
 
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I thank ROD for opening this subject. I think it's possible to discuss the the stadium/city situation, and not degenerate into haters, which I think has been proven so far. My take is that Kroenke is making a power play to move the team. I think he see's weakness in the NFL that he will exploit to move the team, and then he will sue the NFL over anti-trust allegations, when they try to enforce the bylaws..or will they? Will the NFL want to engage the 2nd richest owner in the league, that has the capacity to self build in LA? That's what makes this so interesting, cuz even though I believe what I just said, I don't know for sure..It's just my take.

IF it works the other way, man..I love the open air concept, riverfront stadium idea. It would be a stadium that's easily upgraded (I would think) in years to come, so that it's the "Forever" stadium, visualized by Peacock. Either project in LA or St Louis, would make me proud..
 
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LoyalRam said:
I thank ROD for opening this subject. I think it's possible to discuss the the stadium/city situation, and not degenerate into haters, which I think has been proven so far. My take is that Kroenke is making a power play to move the team. I think he see's weakness in the NFL that he will exploit to move the team, and then he will sue the NFL over anti-trust allegations, when they try to enforce the bylaws..or will they? Will the NFL want to engage the 2nd richest owner in the league, that has the capacity to self build in LA? That's what makes this so interesting, cuz even though I believe what I just said, I don't know for sure..It's just my take.

IF it works the other way, man..I love the open air concept, riverfront stadium idea. It would be a stadium that's easily upgraded (I would think) in years to come, so that it's the "Forever" stadium, visualized by Peacock. Either project in LA or St Louis, would make me proud..
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I don't know. I don't think he will. If the NFL decides he needs to stay, I see him staying. I think he's already in hot water with the cross ownership rules and doesn't want to ruffle more feathers.

That being said, if he's dead set on going to LA then he is probably trying hard behind the scenes to get the owners to fall in line with him. However, so far, the reports are that the owners want him to stay if indeed St. Louis builds a stadium
 
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I'm thinking she goes with the guy with the most money! Fickle, gold digging beeotch!
 

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http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...-Story-On-Jerry-Jones-Interview-Debunked.aspx

NFL Story On Jerry Jones’ Interview Debunked

Odd development. Trying to figure out the angle. Could be as simple as covering for Jerry Jones. But, the NFL---or one of its owners---was caught in a lie.

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-On January 12, the New York Times and writer Ken Belson publishes a story in which Belson quotes Jerry Jones on Kroenke/Los Angeles saying, “As it would turn out now, apart from the league saying no, you can move there. Keep in mind that teams have moved without the permission of the league. They just have.” The article says the interview took place last week.

-Friday in the Post-Dispatch, Jim Thomas quotes Eric Grubman saying, “Put (Jones' remarks) in context. This man’s trying to get to the Super Bowl. He was in Green Bay, Wis., and he just lost an incredible game. A lot of passion and emotion. And he gets hit with that question from an out-of-town reporter. … Jerry wasn’t even quite sure what he said beyond acknowledging historically teams have moved without (permission). So when asked — ‘Did you say that?’ — he wasn’t even sure.”

-Seeing that the New York Times said that the interview was conducted "last week," and seeing that Grubman blamed Jones' comments on the emotion of being interview moments after the Cowboys' loss in Green Bay, it struck a gentleman (posting as 007 here on insideSTL.com and @2xAught7 on Twitter) as strange, and it struck me as rather odd that reporters would ask Jones about the Rams/Los Angeles moments after the Cowboys' season came to an end. And, if they did, why did the quote only appear in the New York Times?

-So, 007 reached out to Ken Belson tonight on Twitter, and Belson says:


View: https://twitter.com/el_belson/status/556281729204232192


-The question is why lie about something that was so easily debunked? Did Jones lie to Goodell? Did Goodell lie to Grubman? Did Grubman lie to Jim Thomas? I have a hard time seeing how one of the above isn’t true. The question is what is the upside to the lie. Why? Was it as simple as protecting Jones? Whatever the case, it proves---not that it's particularly shocking---that the NFL or one of its owners is willing to blatantly make something up when interviewed during this process.
 
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http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...-Story-On-Jerry-Jones-Interview-Debunked.aspx

NFL Story On Jerry Jones’ Interview Debunked

Odd development. Trying to figure out the angle. Could be as simple as covering for Jerry Jones. But, the NFL---or one of its owners---was caught in a lie.

350_kroenke_jones.jpg


-On January 12, the New York Times and writer Ken Belson publishes a story in which Belson quotes Jerry Jones on Kroenke/Los Angeles saying, “As it would turn out now, apart from the league saying no, you can move there. Keep in mind that teams have moved without the permission of the league. They just have.” The article says the interview took place last week.

-Friday in the Post-Dispatch, Jim Thomas quotes Eric Grubman saying, “Put (Jones' remarks) in context. This man’s trying to get to the Super Bowl. He was in Green Bay, Wis., and he just lost an incredible game. A lot of passion and emotion. And he gets hit with that question from an out-of-town reporter. … Jerry wasn’t even quite sure what he said beyond acknowledging historically teams have moved without (permission). So when asked — ‘Did you say that?’ — he wasn’t even sure.”

-Seeing that the New York Times said that the interview was conducted "last week," and seeing that Grubman blamed Jones' comments on the emotion of being interview moments after the Cowboys' loss in Green Bay, it struck a gentleman (posting as 007 here on insideSTL.com and @2xAught7 on Twitter) as strange, and it struck me as rather odd that reporters would ask Jones about the Rams/Los Angeles moments after the Cowboys' season came to an end. And, if they did, why did the quote only appear in the New York Times?

-So, 007 reached out to Ken Belson tonight on Twitter, and Belson says:


View: https://twitter.com/el_belson/status/556281729204232192


-The question is why lie about something that was so easily debunked? Did Jones lie to Goodell? Did Goodell lie to Grubman? Did Grubman lie to Jim Thomas? I have a hard time seeing how one of the above isn’t true. The question is what is the upside to the lie. Why? Was it as simple as protecting Jones? Whatever the case, it proves---not that it's particularly shocking---that the NFL or one of its owners is willing to blatantly make something up when interviewed during this process.
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Good reminder to trust noone on this shit. NFL does what they think is best for NFL.
 
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http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...-Story-On-Jerry-Jones-Interview-Debunked.aspx


-Seeing that the New York Times said that the interview was conducted "last week," and seeing that Grubman blamed Jones' comments on the emotion of being interview moments after the Cowboys' loss in Green Bay, it struck a gentleman (posting as 007 here on insideSTL.com and @2xAught7 on Twitter) as strange, and it struck me as rather odd that reporters would ask Jones about the Rams/Los Angeles moments after the Cowboys' season came to an end. And, if they did, why did the quote only appear in the New York Times?

-So, 007 reached out to Ken Belson tonight on Twitter, and Belson says:


View: https://twitter.com/el_belson/status/556281729204232192


-The question is why lie about something that was so easily debunked? Did Jones lie to Goodell? Did Goodell lie to Grubman? Did Grubman lie to Jim Thomas? I have a hard time seeing how one of the above isn’t true. The question is what is the upside to the lie. Why? Was it as simple as protecting Jones? Whatever the case, it proves---not that it's particularly shocking---that the NFL or one of its owners is willing to blatantly make something up when interviewed during this process.
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Are you saying Jerry Jones "made up" what he was saying in an interview? Please clarify. Thank you
 
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