mr.stlouis
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Thank you ROD for being flexible with the times. It truly is the best Ram board.
I just called my folks about how much their PSLs were back in 95.
Each seat in 431, Row TT, 1 and 2 was $750 a piece, and only constituted a "right of first refusal"
I don't know that all that many separate the what from the how but - fair enough. I agree though that the timing of Jay Nixon's involvement is about politics and staying in office. I'm not faulting him either in that - it's the reality of politics. I do think however that the CVC proposal likely stuck in Stan's craw a bit. I'm also not sure what took place to what looks like kicking them to the curb in all this.No one is faulting him for doing WHAT he is doing, it's HOW he's doing it. The fact is that talk of a new stadium before it's time for one is a political non starter in about 49 states right now. If we have to acknowledge that Stan is being realistic, then we have to acknowledge that if the politicians had started talking about this before the election we would have ended up with a bunch of newly elected anti stadium people.
I understand. It was just an idea and I have no idea if it would be possible or how much extra it add to initial costs. However, adding a roof to it, I don't think is possible at this point. The additional costs, as stated already, are roughly $200-300 million. That's going to require a public vote for the funding and that makes things MUCH more difficult. It'd probably kill the plan altogether.One big obstacle I see with this is that in that period of time, building codes and other aspects may change - much like building a one story building with plans to go 2. I'm in such a building and the codes won't allow for that second story without major renovations to the structure. Possibly could be overcome, and maybe these particular codes won't change but it doesn't sound like banking on it is a great idea. Dunno.
I also don't think saying 15-25 years down the road we'll actually make it SB ready is a real option.
Just a small point here... who decides whether or not negotiations are still in good faith?
I could definitely see a scenario where St. Louis insists they are, and the Rams insist they're just dragging the process out.
And getting 23 of 31 remaining teams to agree with the move (Remember, the Rams themselves are one of the 24) is doable, especially if those teams will make more money from league revenue in the long run.
Yeah - I think most of us are just spit balling right now. I'd like to see a venue though that is pretty freaking amazing and has the ability to bid on the Superbowl. My wife loves St Louis and I think it would be ultra-cool to go to a Superbowl there.I understand. It was just an idea and I have no idea if it would be possible or how much extra it add to initial costs. However, adding a roof to it, I don't think is possible at this point. The additional costs, as stated already, are roughly $200-300 million. That's going to require a public vote for the funding and that makes things MUCH more difficult. It'd probably kill the plan altogether.
I was just trying to find a way to defer that $200-300 million cost to a later date when people would be more willing to pay for it. It may not be possible. It was just a thought.
I don't see a huge home- field advantage built in with this stadium, the stadium kinda flows outward, just can't see it being nasty loud in there. No expert, but not thrilled with the generic design, especially viewing the inside of the stadium.Notice how on top of the field the fans will sit. That is going to be one loud ass place. And I hate to say it but this looks WAY more impressive than the St Louis mock-ups. The video is even more impressive. I don't like the apparent lack of tailgating area but the stadium itself is a 72,000 seat palace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Football_League_stadiumsAnd also what is the average seating capacity for an NFL stadium (ignoring uncle Jerry's penis extension in Texas which would surely skew the average)?
A retractable roof would be perfect but I just heard on the radio it'd cost an extra $500 million. OUCH! Hopefully that's not true.Yeah - I think most of us are just spit balling right now. I'd like to see a venue though that is pretty freaking amazing and has the ability to bid on the Superbowl. My wife loves St Louis and I think it would be ultra-cool to go to a Superbowl there.
How are they going to find money for this stadium though? Are some people going to lose their jobs? Are they going to close down some schools? Or are they going to find investors to fund the stadium.
A retractable roof would be perfect but I just heard on the radio it'd cost an extra $500 million. OUCH! Hopefully that's not true.
Thanks man!The money is already there. As long as nothing new is added, it'll be the Hotel Tax which costs you nothing...unless you go to a hotel in STL.