Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Memphis Ram]

I'm not on record saying he's not tradeable at all, but you said it yourself, one game. The Patriots wouldn't get a top notch pick for that, so that's really the most laughable part. Saying someone is the franchise after 1 year is beyond dumb. I seem to remember a really good player we had in Sam Bradford that won rookie of the year and eventually flamed out. I get his downfall was due to injuries, but there is no way to tell if a player will hit any bad luck in any shape or manner. I personally think Maye is legit, but front offices still have to be smart about having pieces in place to make sure they have other options if something unforseen happens. Why draft Milton in the same draft as Maye? Oh shit, sounds like they are covering their bases lol.

Huh? Why draft Milton? Because while very raw, he's a rare physical talent and it's the 6th round of the draft. That's where some teams take fliers on those type of players hoping to hit gold. Not necessarily trying to fill immediate needs or concerns with an earlier selection. Any GM banking on a 6th round QB selection for fear of what he used his #3 overall selection on shouldn't have made that selection in the first place.

And the Patriots wouldn't have to get a top notch pick for Milton. They could get a veteran and/or higher selection for what they used on Milton.

And saying that a QB selected #3 overall for an NFL team isn't that team's franchise QB is beyond dumb. Bradford was mistakenly the Rams franchise QB at the time even though he had a lengthy injury history in college. But he was the franchise.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Huh? Why draft Milton? Because he's a rare physical talent and it's the 6th round of the draft. That's where some teams take fliers on those type of players hoping to hit gold. Not necessarily trying to fill immediate needs or concerns with an earlier selection.

Saying that a QB selected #3 overall for an NFL team isn't that team's franchise QB is beyond dumb. Bradford was mistakenly the Rams franchise QB at the time even though he had a lengthy injury history in college.

See, now what you are doing is assuming Maye is going to be the franchise QB. Apparently you aren't reading or referring to the part where I said I think Maye is legit plus you are missing the part where front offices have to have contingency plans in place just in case shit goes haywire for whatever reason. Why trade a backup QB with rare physical talent that is cheap as hell on the roster? How can you guarantee Maye will ultimately work out? We are talking about a franchise that purposely drafted 2 QBs in the same draft. Why would they do that? I hope you realize this is the same franchise whose best QB in their franchise history was a 6th rd pick that replaced their supposed franchise QB in Bledsoe. Lmao at this whole convo. The only way you trade Milton is if the team approaching the Patriots offers something ridiculous which isn't going to happen when his sample size is one game. Way better to keep him on the team and spend resources elsewhere. If Maye has another outstanding year this coming up year, that may be a better time to start looking at trading him. This year would be ridiculous.

 

[Ram Ts]

Maye is a stud and is their LT franchise QB. Thinking otherwise is foolish and wrong.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Maye is a stud and is their LT franchise QB. Thinking otherwise is foolish and wrong.

No one is saying he isn't a stud or good at all. Assuming that nothing bad can ever happen is bad business. Contingency plans are done for a reason. I'll keep saying it and you can reference my responses here. This is literally the 3rd time on this topic where I have said I believe Maye is legit. Isn't this the same fan base that was begging to have a backup in place with potential to help out a few games just in case Stafford got hurt?

 

[Memphis Ram]

See, now what you are doing is assuming Maye is going to be the franchise QB. Apparently you aren't reading or referring to the part where I said I think Maye is legit plus you are missing the part where front offices have to have contingency plans in place just in case shit goes haywire for whatever reason. Why trade a backup QB with rare physical talent that is cheap as hell on the roster? How can you guarantee Maye will ultimately work out? We are talking about a franchise that purposely drafted 2 QBs in the same draft. Why would they do that? I hope you realize this is the same franchise whose best QB in their franchise history was a 6th rd pick that replaced their supposed franchise QB in Bledsoe. Lmao at this whole convo. The only way you trade Milton is if the team approaching the Patriots offers something ridiculous which isn't going to happen when his sample size is one game. Way better to keep him on the team and spend resources elsewhere.

Maye is the team's franchise QB until he proves that he's not. New England is going to do everything in their power to build around Maye just as the Rams did with Goff.

Why trade a backup with rare physical talent? Because he's raw as an onion and it's possible that you could obtain an asset(s) to build around and help Maye who looked legit last year. Now if he didn't look legit and they opened things up for competition then I'd better see your point. But, I haven't heard anything even close to that yet.

Plus there may be better backup options available as a player and to support Maye.

An offer of something ridiculous? No way to gauge that. We've already proven what's ridiculous to one may not be ridiculous to another just on this forum alone. There are some here that seem to believe that a 37 year old Stafford is worth the #3 overall selection in this draft class when his own team may be hesitant to re-sign him.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Getting a #2 and a #1 (assuming Stafford just has a decent year in Pittsburgh) plus moving up 5 spots in this draft that could land you one of the top DL, WR, TE, etc... or gives you more room to move back and add more picks, isn't a bad deal.

You think you should get more than a #1 & #2 for a 37 yr old QB?

He’s a top 3 QB in the NFC right now. If they trade him it should be for a higher pick than 21.

The way I look at it is moving up 5 spots to weaken your QB situation and go from a Stafford level to a frequently injured Garapolo level isn’t a wise trade. Draft picks are still a guessing game. Just because the Rams have had two successful drafts in a row doesn’t mean they have it figured out. After round 1 it’s even a bigger gamble so the Steelers second rounders aren’t that enticing.

If a GM is going to risk putting their team into QB purgatory it should be for a higher value than moving up to 21. Teams go years without a good QB. The Steelers future picks are likely in the mid 20’s with Stafford at QB. The Rams would have little opportunity to trade up for a QB in the next two drafts using those late round picks.

QB is not equal to a corner or a receiver when it comes to replaceability.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Transferred to Syracuse so that is a few hours away from my backyard so I was able to watch all of his games. Had a great year although struggled against certain defense (5 interceptions against Pitt) but one thing I was impressed by him, he never really elaborated on leaving Ohio State and interceptions and negative plays do not deter him, he can take a licking and keep on ticking.

I always figured the death threats made him think staying at Ohio State wasn’t worth it.

 

[Ram Ts]

No one is saying he isn't a stud or good at all. Assuming that nothing bad can ever happen is bad business. Contingency plans are done for a reason. I'll keep saying it and you can reference my responses here. This is literally the 3rd time on this topic where I have said I believe Maye is legit. Isn't this the same fan base that was begging to have a backup in place with potential to help out a few games just in case Stafford got hurt?

Hey apples, meet my friend oranges.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Maye is the team's franchise QB until he proves that he's not. New England is going to do everything in their power to build around Maye just as the Rams did with Goff.

Why trade a backup with rare physical talent? Because he's raw as an onion and it's possible that you could obtain an asset(s) to build around and help Maye who looked legit last year. Now if he didn't look legit and they opened things up for competition then I'd better see your point. But, I haven't heard anything even close to that yet.

Plus there may be better backup options available as a player and to support Maye.

An offer of something ridiculous? No way to gauge that. We've already proven what's ridiculous to one may not be ridiculous to another. There are some hear that believe that Stafford is worth the #3 overall selection in this draft class.

Lol about the #3 overall part as I agree completely that expecting that is crazy as hell for Stafford although I'd jump all over that if I were the Rams. In fact, I do hope the Rams are pushing for that if the Giants want him that bad as that would help set our roster to be upgraded across the board since the Rams front office has been knocking the draft out of the park lately. By ridiculous for Milton, I'd say getting a 3rd rd pick starts that conversation. I just don't see a team being that retarded, but I could be wrong there since there are some questionable ass front offices out there. I just don't think it will happen. Also getting another QB behind Maye may cost more when they really should be paying top tier talent at more important positions to pair with Maye while he's on a rookie contract. I can see them paying record money to get Higgins for example if he is allowed to test free agency.

 

[den-the-coach]

I always figured the death threats made him think staying at Ohio State wasn’t worth it.

Fanatics and you cannot control people, who from the neck up are worth a dime. He would have stayed, but Day did not guarantee him he would be the starter in 2024. I understood both sides because I felt the Buckeyes needed a QB that could offer more of a threat with his legs and Howard was that guy.

Worked out great for both parties the Buckeyes won a National Championship and Will Howard was a huge part of that and McCord was able to head to Central NY, play for an up and coming Head Coach in Fran Brown plus showcase the arm talent that made him a 5 star recruit.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

But it doesn't have to be a valuable as last year's #3. It's still valuable.

I think sometimes we have to look at things from the other team's perspective.

If the Rams didn't have a QB and had the #3 overall selection in a QB weak draft. Would you trade that selection for a 37 year old Matt Stafford who could retire after just one season and pay him a huge contract at that? Quite frankly I wouldn't even consider it.

Nobody would trade for him without talking to him about his future plan. Teams don’t go into that kind of deal blind on such matters.

If I’m a Giants fan and I think it makes the team better for two to three years, I’m all for it. Good QBs are hard to come by. If I’m Daboll and Shoen and desperate to show my owner that our team isn’t as bad as it actually looks by getting a few years of Stafford, I’m making that trade. Otherwise I’m likely fired after this year and may never get another chance to be a head coach or GM, like many Coaches and several GMs

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Fanatics and you cannot control people, who from the neck up are worth a dime. He would have stayed, but Day did not guarantee him he would be the starter in 2024. I understood both parties because I felt the Buckeyes needed a QB that could offer more of a threat with his legs and Howard was that guy.

Worked out great for both parties the Buckeyes won a National Championship and Will Howard was a huge part of that and McCord was able to head to Central NY, play for an up and coming Head Coach in Fran Brown plus showcase the arm talent that made him a 5 star recruit.

Was Howard really that much better than McCord?

 

[den-the-coach]

Was Howard really that much better than McCord?

Did you watch the runs he made against Texas & Notre Dame? McCord does not have that ability.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Nobody would trade for him without talking to him about his future plan. Teams don’t go into that kind of deal blind on such matters.

If I’m a Giants fan and I think it makes the team better for two to three years, I’m all for it. Good QBs are hard to come by. If I’m Daboll and Shoen and desperate to show my owner that our team isn’t as bad as it actually looks by getting a few years of Stafford, I’m making that trade. Otherwise I’m likely fired after this year and may never get another chance to be a head coach or GM, like many Coaches and several GMs

A 37 year old QB could say that he plans to play 2 -3 more years and an NFL GM who trusted that would be nuts as there is a high risk that he might not only change his mind, but not be physically able to do so. And having a spouse with possible health issues even increases the risk.

If I were the Giants owner and Daboll and Shoen came to me with such a deal that would be the final straw and both would be fired immediately.

 

[OldSchool]

Who is the Mench guy?

The other guy in the video with McShay

 

[jrry32]

Why would the Patriots trade Milton? I cannot see any world where he's available in a trade.

If you offer sufficient draft pick compensation, of course they'll trade him.

 

[OldSchool]

If you offer sufficient draft pick compensation, of course they'll trade him.

Overpay sure anybody is available. But the thought that they'd shop him to create a whole in the roster just makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

[Corbin]

I just skipped 10 pages of Ram fans who panic over fucking anything " OMFG STAFFORD WILL RETIRE AND JOINA CONVENT IN THE TOP OF MOUNT MCKINNLEY BECAUSE THEY ARE NEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!AAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"

My God do you guys do this in your own life? You know the there is a shit ton of time before the beginning of the new season right?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I just skipped 10 pages of Ram fans who panic over fucking anything " OMFG STAFFORD WILL RETIRE AND JOINA CONVENT IN THE TOP OF MOUNT MCKINNLEY BECAUSE THEY ARE NEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!AAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"

My God do you guys do this in your own life? You know the there is a shit ton of time before the beginning of the new season right?

I'm honestly just enjoying talking about it even though none on here, myself included, has any idea what will truly happen. I need to also catch my breath and rest up a bit after visiting the booty and boobie threads lol

 

[Memphis Ram]

Overpay sure anybody is available. But the thought that they'd shop him to create a whole in the roster just makes absolutely no sense at all.

Yet not one person here said that the Patriots should shop him. Not one person.

And a so-called overpay is relative.