Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[El Chapo Jr]

Yet not one person here said that the Patriots should shop him. Not one person.

Honestly tho, its the Patriots. I hope they fuck up in any way possible hahahaha

 

[OldSchool]

Yet not one person here said that the Patriots should shop him. Not one person.

And a so-called overpay is relative.

No you haven't said they should shop him you just said we should trade for him. To which I said they shouldn't and wouldn't trade him. I'm not interested in a sematics debate here.

 

[ljramsfan]

I think Pittsburgh would interest him. Winning culture that just needs a QB... but it is a tough conference to get to the SB.

What I find funny is that he may not be happy about Kupp leaving, but he doesn't appear to want to take a significant discount to prevent a move like that from happening.

Never thought of that

 

[Flatlyner]

It is crazy as the team isn't ready to win yet. Stafford's not the final piece of all that ails the Giants. Besides, Stafford could play one season and retire. Plus, they've got to pay him a huge deal? That would be a horrible trade for the Giants.

For Dabol and Schoen they are grasping for improvement or they are unemployed. IF they could convince the owner Stafford would make them compete for playoffs next season, it could happen. Those 2 don't care what happens in the future there, if they flop they are done there. IMO, it would make a big improvement. They lost 7 games by 1 score. A top end QB can account for 1 score.

TBH, there is nothing they can do at #3 that will give them a bigger edge then having a top QB on the roster.

 

[jrry32]

Overpay sure anybody is available. But the thought that they'd shop him to create a whole in the roster just makes absolutely no sense at all.

What is an overpay in your mind? And that's a hole in their roster that it might actually behoove them to create. If they get draft pick compensation for Milton and bring in a good veteran backup for Maye, it's a win-win. They have plenty of cap, and a veteran presence can really help a young QB.

Plus, they only have Milton under contract for three more years. What are the odds he starts more than a few games during that time? It likely requires a Maye injury or him turning into a pumpkin, so if they get worthwhile draft compensation, it makes sense to deal.

 

[Corbin]

I'm honestly just enjoying talking about it even though none on here, myself included, has any idea what will truly happen. I need to also catch my breath and rest up a bit after visiting the booty and boobie threads lol

A simple negotiation inflamed by Sports Media having nothing else to talk about and needing something to fill their time on tape to discuss so their stations can get paid advertisement money.

This is a non issue. If the Rams FO thought he was expendable last year negotiations would of been different, we would have a other legit option to. 2026 seems like it's projected for some promising QB's, excited to see who moves themselves up into the first round.

 

[Memphis Ram]

No you haven't said they should shop him you just said we should trade for him. To which I said they shouldn't and wouldn't trade him. I'm not interested in a sematics debate here.

Neither am I. I merely pointed out that I wasn't enamored with anyone in the 2025 QB draft class and that if Stafford were moved, I'd go with Garoppolo and go after Zack Wilson (free agent) OR Joe Milton (via trade) for competition instead. But, Zack Wilson was my first choice.

You established a raw Milton as a viable NFL backup and untouchable via trade requests after one good game against Bills backups and I disagreed. And still do as it doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Memphis Ram]

For Dabol and Schoen they are grasping for improvement or they are unemployed. IF they could convince the owner Stafford would make them compete for playoffs next season, it could happen. Those 2 don't care what happens in the future there, if they flop they are done there. IMO, it would make a big improvement. They lost 7 games by 1 score. A top end QB can account for 1 score.

TBH, there is nothing they can do at #3 that will give them a bigger edge then having a top QB on the roster.

My point is that there isn't a NFL Owner or doubtful a non Rams fan that would even consider such a move. Honestly, if tables were turned would you be calling for McSnead to make such a deal????

The very first question should be that if Stafford were that great or valuable, why on earth would the Rams even consider it? And any NFL Owner or front office paying attention is going to point to the Aaron Rodgers trade and outcome. A multiple MVP QB who didn't garner as much.

Plus the Giants don't have to go from Daniel Jones to Stafford for an upgrade. Daniel Jones to Russell Wilson or Kirk Cousins (for pennies on the dollar) is still an upgrade at the position.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Cam Ward was brought up earlier, I think if you feel like you can fix his throwing mechanics and motion (it's low and looping) than he can be a franchise QB.

But that's a big if. More so than the mechanics that make his throws inaccurate, that low looping motion will most likely lead to a lot of sacks and fumbles and interceptions.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

A simple negotiation inflamed by Sports Media having nothing else to talk about and needing something to fill their time on tape to discuss so their stations can get paid advertisement money.

This is a non issue. If the Rams FO thought he was expendable last year negotiations would of been different, we would have a other legit option to. 2026 seems like it's projected for some promising QB's, excited to see who moves themselves up into the first round.

I agree that media purposely uses the "throw shit at the wall to see what sticks" method to generate views or clicks on articles. Journalism is a fuckin joke nowadays. I too agree that 2026 is the year the Rams are most likely to go in a different route for the QB position.

 

[Merlin]

They don't have the OLine for the QB either.

And again, Stafford might only be there for one season. One season. There may not be a QB worthy of the selection, but #3 overall selection could possibly be a potential generational talent like Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter who the team would have for many seasons. Many seasons. And for less money than they'd pay Stafford.

The very first question should be that if Stafford were that great or valuable, why on earth would the Rams even consider it?

The Giants could end up with a great talent and still lose games because they don't have a QB. And while that doesn't bother a fan, the perspective is different if you're the guy whose ass requires actual wins like their head coach whose ass is on the burner.

So again I'm not overvaluing Stafford here. I'm just saying acting like it's some fucking taboo concept to discuss that 3 overall for Stafford is funny to me.

For example they swap first round picks with us, get a stud QB who may have more in him than people think, and then they take a big target TE there at 26. Couple that with some good FA additions on the line and a strong draft overall and they're a playoff team.

Also who's to say Stafford has one season in him. But anyway. Let's agree to disagree on this one. I don't know their roster and don't feel like looking hard at it to see if maybe that's a viable plan. Could be it's not but again I don't like my QB getting shit on in the media. The dude still has mastery of the position and in today's league that's a very valuable thing.

 

[Memphis Ram]

The Giants could end up with a great talent and still lose games because they don't have a QB. And while that doesn't bother a fan, the perspective is different if you're the guy whose ass requires actual wins like their head coach whose ass is on the burner.

So again I'm not overvaluing Stafford here. I'm just saying acting like it's some fucking taboo concept to discuss that 3 overall for Stafford is funny to me.

For example they swap first round picks with us, get a stud QB who may have more in him than people think, and then they take a big target TE there at 26. Couple that with some good FA additions on the line and a strong draft overall and they're a playoff team.

Also who's to say Stafford has one season in him. But anyway. Let's agree to disagree on this one. I don't know their roster and don't feel like looking hard at it to see if maybe that's a viable plan. Could be it's not but again I don't like my QB getting shit on in the media. The dude still has mastery of the position and in today's league that's a very valuable thing.

But, Stafford isn't the only QB option available for the Giants to upgrade the position. You might even be an upgrade over Daniel Jones as far as I know.

I have no problem discussing the #3 overall pick for Stafford. I'm just pointing out how unrealistic such a trade would be and I'm questioning if this was the Giants Board and we were Giants fans would we be championing such a move?

I do that as no one has yet to answer if they would be OK if the Rams made such a move if the tables were turned.

 

[OldSchool]

What is an overpay in your mind? And that's a hole in their roster that it might actually behoove them to create. If they get draft pick compensation for Milton and bring in a good veteran backup for Maye, it's a win-win. They have plenty of cap, and a veteran presence can really help a young QB.

Plus, they only have Milton under contract for three more years. What are the odds he starts more than a few games during that time? It likely requires a Maye injury or him turning into a pumpkin, so if they get worthwhile draft compensation, it makes sense to deal.

And they bring in a Vet and keep Milton let both learn from the vet and gain experience. I don't see them getting much better than the 6th round they paid for. And sorry I get wanting more draft picks but I also have seen us starting Bryce Perkins, John Wolford, Carson Wentz and Brett Rypien in the last few years. Sorry but if it's my team keeping Milton over the risk of starting one of those 4 is better than any day 3 pick potential impact to the team.

 

[Memphis Ram]

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[Memento]

Again, I'm a fan of Jaxson Dart. I love his poise under pressure, footwork in the pocket, his rifle of an arm. Only issue I see is his size (probably 6'1") and the system he ran under Kiffin. But he's been good for years, and honestly, I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him if, by any chance, Stafford is dealt for a late first. Re-sign Garoppolo for another year or bring in Zach Wilson to potentially rehab his value, I don't care, but Dart reminds me of Baker Mayfield, actually. Maybe Baker-lite, but he plays so similar with his size and off-schedule poise.

 

[Merlin]

But, Stafford isn't the only QB option available for the Giants to upgrade the position. You might even be an upgrade over Daniel Jones as far as I know.

I have no problem discussing the #3 overall pick for Stafford. I'm just pointing out how unrealistic such a trade would be and I'm questioning if this was the Giants Board and we were Giants fans would we be championing such a move?

I do that as no one has yet to answer if they would be OK if the Rams made such a move if the tables were turned.

The key with Stafford is he's still got more arm talent than most QBs. So to a great extent any move with him would be about is he mentally all-in to chase a title for let's say a few years. I mean if you can get a few years from him then he's got value to you.

I think Pittsburgh is a great example. Imagine if they were to trade for Kupp & Stafford. They'd have a good QB for the first time since Big Ben, which incidentally was the last time they contended. Now if Stafford looks the coach in the eye and sells him on a three year window, then giving up that first round pick is no big deal given them fixing the QB position.

When you have a QB you see shit a lot differently than when you don't. Whether you're a fan or a coach or team. Stafford just put up film teams are going to appreciate. So it's all about his physical well being first off, and then does he want to fight for a few more years. And everything I've heard him say has been that he wants to play so I figure he'll be more like Brady, i.e. one of those guys who doesn't want to stop until his body just can't do it. But he's not 40 and in today's league with the protections of the pocket and refs who is to say he doesn't have 3-4 more years.

This incidentally is why I want him back. Get that fucker weapons and a great defense and you'll see some shit.

 

[Memphis Ram]

The key with Stafford is he's still got more arm talent than most QBs. So to a great extent any move with him would be about is he mentally all-in to chase a title for let's say a few years. I mean if you can get a few years from him then he's got value to you.

I think Pittsburgh is a great example. Imagine if they were to trade for Kupp & Stafford. They'd have a good QB for the first time since Big Ben, which incidentally was the last time they contended. Now if Stafford looks the coach in the eye and sells him on a three year window, then giving up that first round pick is no big deal given them fixing the QB position.

When you have a QB you see shit a lot differently than when you don't. Whether you're a fan or a coach or team. Stafford just put up film teams are going to appreciate. So it's all about his physical well being first off, and then does he want to fight for a few more years. And everything I've heard him say has been that he wants to play so I figure he'll be more like Brady, i.e. one of those guys who doesn't want to stop until his body just can't do it. But he's not 40 and in today's league with the protections of the pocket and refs who is to say he doesn't have 3-4 more years.

This incidentally is why I want him back. Get that fucker weapons and a great defense and you'll see some shit.

But, again Stafford could look a coaching staff in the eye and say he's got 3 more years in him and change his mind after one. Or not physically be able to do it. Or his wife gets ill again.

The risk remains no matter what he says. Plus, you've got a huge dead cap hit to boot if he doesn't make it. That risk alone is not #3 overall selection value.

But, again, I ask if the tables were turned would you or anyone be Championing the Rams to make such a trade? No one seems to want to answer that question. I've checked Giants fan boards and the answer is a resounding NO. Instead of even considering the #3 overall I've seen many there talking about a 3rd round pick and pick swaps. Non Rams fans.

 

[dieterbrock]

Again, I'm a fan of Jaxson Dart. I love his poise under pressure, footwork in the pocket, his rifle of an arm. Only issue I see is his size (probably 6'1")

He measured 6’2 at the Senior Bowl

 

[jrry32]

And they bring in a Vet and keep Milton let both learn from the vet and gain experience. I don't see them getting much better than the 6th round they paid for. And sorry I get wanting more draft picks but I also have seen us starting Bryce Perkins, John Wolford, Carson Wentz and Brett Rypien in the last few years. Sorry but if it's my team keeping Milton over the risk of starting one of those 4 is better than any day 3 pick potential impact to the team.

I disagree.

 

[Memento]

He measured 6’2 at the Senior Bowl

Even better. I was expecting him to be shorter.