Matthew Stafford Contract Status

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El Chapo Jr

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dieterbrock said:
Stafford wanted guaranteed money, and they are expecting a similar conversation.
But he’s under contract for 2 more years, not year to year. the Rams dont have to sign him or change his deal.
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He has only $15 mil guaranteed dollars left on his deal. There's no way he plays under that contract. Something has to give. The 2 years left mean doo doo other than maybe how they spread the cap hit if/when his contract is restructured. Do you seriously think Stafford would play if we don't change his deal? Just curious is why I'm asking. Not trying to assume anything.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
Sorry man but I am not understanding the math.

The Rams currently have a $49.7M cap hit for Stafford in 2025 but Stafford is not making $49.7M in 2025.
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He’s only getting like $27M cash this year, bonuses were prorated into future years from one 2021-22 to win the Superbowl. He’s already received the bonus of $22M but is only getting $27M cash for a cap hit of $49M.

Stafford thinking to himself he’s a very good QB, but why is he only making $27M this year?!? When chumps like Danny Dimes, Lawrence, and The Massagist are making way more guaranteed.

So Stafford is saying to the Rams, I’ll tear up the rest of the contract before the league year starts, but get me some guaranteed cash and let’s make a run.

Replace the contract with $45M guaranteed and escalators to bring it to $50M. Depending on how reasonable the escalators are to achieve the Rams can still get close to that $50M cap number by reworking the contract and paying Staff more cutter.

Please correct me if I’m naive about how NFL cap space works.
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
He has only $15 mil guaranteed dollars left on his deal. There's no way he plays under that contract. Something has to give. The 2 years left mean doo doo other than maybe how they spread the cap hit if/when his contract is restructured. Do you seriously think Stafford would play if we don't change his deal? Just curious is why I'm asking. Not trying to assume anything.
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He has to play, he’s under contract. His salary will be guaranteed after week 1. Can he hold out? Sure. Will he? Doubt it. Clearly there was more drama behind the scenes last year than we knew and it sounds like the Rams don’t want to deal with that again.
For the Rams to do a simple restructure, they don’t need Stafford consent. So they can convert salary to bonus, pay him up front and stretch out the hit over the remainder of the deal.
If the Rams want to add void years, they need Stafford to agree.
That’s where I am guessing the problem lies.
With only 1 year left after 25, a simple restructure doesn’t help.
So Stafford needs to agree, and if he’s too demanding they can just play it out as it stands.
For 2 more seasons
 
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FaulkSF said:
He’s only getting like $27M cash this year, bonuses were prorated into future years from one 2021-22 to win the Superbowl. He’s already received the bonus of $22M but is only getting $27M cash for a cap hit of $49M.

Stafford thinking to himself he’s a very good QB, but why is he only making $27M this year?!? When chumps like Danny Dimes, Lawrence, and The Massagist are making way more guaranteed.

So Stafford is saying to the Rams, I’ll tear up the rest of the contract before the league year starts, but get me some guaranteed cash and let’s make a run.

Replace the contract with $45M guaranteed and escalators to bring it to $50M. Depending on how reasonable the escalators are to achieve the Rams can still get close to that $50M cap number by reworking the contract and paying Staff more cutter.

Please correct me if I’m naive about how NFL cap space works.
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Appreciate the detailed response.
 
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dieterbrock said:
He has to play, he’s under contract. His salary will be guaranteed after week 1. Can he hold out? Sure. Will he? Doubt it. Clearly there was more drama behind the scenes last year than we knew and it sounds like the Rams don’t want to deal with that again.
For the Rams to do a simple restructure, they don’t need Stafford consent. So they can convert salary to bonus, pay him up front and stretch out the hit over the remainder of the deal.
If the Rams want to add void years, they need Stafford to agree.
That’s where I am guessing the problem lies.
With only 1 year left after 25, a simple restructure doesn’t help.
So Stafford needs to agree, and if he’s too demanding they can just play it out as it stands.
For 2 more seasons
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He has to play? So McVay and even Snead talking about the contract issue needing to be resolved ASAP doesn't mean anything? I'm going to strongly disagree with you and say you are dead wrong on this one. With that said, appreciate the responses even if we don't agree :clinkingbeer:
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
He has to play? So McVay and even Snead talking about the contract issue needing to be resolved ASAP doesn't mean anything? I'm going to strongly disagree with you and say you are dead wrong on this one. With that said, appreciate the responses even if we don't agree :clinkingbeer:
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He has a contract. Rams don’t have to do a thing.
He can hold out, retire, ask for trade. But he’s under contract with the Rams. Nothing to argue about
 

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dieterbrock said:
He has to play, he’s under contract. His salary will be guaranteed after week 1. Can he hold out? Sure. Will he? Doubt it. Clearly there was more drama behind the scenes last year than we knew and it sounds like the Rams don’t want to deal with that again.
For the Rams to do a simple restructure, they don’t need Stafford consent. So they can convert salary to bonus, pay him up front and stretch out the hit over the remainder of the deal.
If the Rams want to add void years, they need Stafford to agree.
That’s where I am guessing the problem lies.
With only 1 year left after 25, a simple restructure doesn’t help.
So Stafford needs to agree, and if he’s too demanding they can just play it out as it stands.
For 2 more seasons
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dieterbrock said:
Bonus + Salary= 27 mill for 2025. Only the 4 mill roster bonus is guaranteed.
One thing is for sure, He's not playing for the Rams on that deal. No way, no how.
He's either getting a new contract/extension or he's not going to be a Ram. It's just that simple.
https://ramsondemand.com/threads/matthew-stafford-contract-status.72397/page-2#post-1897756
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A week ago you were saying that he would get a new contract/extension or he wouldn't be a Ram. What changed?
 
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ottoman89 said:
Manning isn't until next year, and they're not trading him this year and rolling with a mid at QB this window open.
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And at the end, Arch Manning might be ass at this level. Be careful what you wish for....
 
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Merlin said:
If I'm Stafford I am more irritated with the way the OL starts every fucking season, which is in complete disarray, than I am about a few more million guaranteed. Because the way I see it he has an opportunity in this offense to string wins and stats together to boost his Hall of Fame equation.

So as far as the money's concerned the Rams will probably take care of him. Because he's the best option for them by far. Stan will support Sean & Les, if they tell him they need 9 then it should get done.

But the concern is this goes back to last offseason. Why is it a concern now. That in itself worries the shit out of me.
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Because at some point you need to pull the plug. The future is what’s worry some at QB
 
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I'd still give (yes it's too much but the going rate for a QB) a 2 year $90mil fully guaranteed contract. And get his replacement in NEXT years draft class or if someone falls this year.
 
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A good passer that offers very little with his legs/mobility vs. above average passer that offers something with his legs/mobility.

Not sure who the latter would be, but both are winning formulas IMO. Especially with McVay.
 
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DzRams said:
A week ago you were saying that he would get a new contract/extension or he wouldn't be a Ram. What changed?
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A lot has changed, have you been paying attention?
I'll give you a hint, it's cleverly hidden in the title of the thread
 
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