Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[ozarkram]

Penalty 15 yards. Invoking Bradford.

 

[dieterbrock]

No thousand yard backs

How many thousand yard backs did the Patriots have? They won a SB with Shane Vereen as the leading rusher with 390 yards. The Chiefs havent had one since Mahomes became QB. Point being, Detroit favored a a high volume pass offense because of Stafford. Kind of like Miami back in the day with Marino, the team never focused on the run because they exploited (for a lack of a better term) the QB skills and were too reliant on that alone.
Good thing for Stafford he's out of that mess and with a coach who use the best of his abilities with a stud running back

 

[WestCoastRam]

My understanding is that Goff's fate was sealed mid season. The coach felt he was regressing when he should have progressed to the point of taking the team on his shoulders. So something was going to go down.

Yeah, Jourdan alludes to this. I'd say that her Athletic pieces and now her podcast seem to offer the most insight into what was going on behind the scenes. Correct or incorrect, it seems that McVay from the sense she gets from people in the building bent over backwards to try to make it work with Goff and just gave up. He was "okay" with changing the offense for Goff but absolutely lost it over the interceptions. She says that it wasn't that he had them (which may be why looking at interceptions as a stat might be misleading) but McVay was absolutely livid about the decision making that lead to the interceptions.

She's a thoughtful reporter and makes a good point that she holds both these ideas as not mutually exclusive: it was a mistake to sign Goff to the extension when they did. It would have also been a mistake to keep this marriage going.

And another note that I don't think anyone has mentioned: Sure, there's a possibility that Goff can go to another offense where someone allows him to play in something that utilizes his talents better. It's not Detroit. What chance Goff had of becoming a consistently top 15 QB is gone now. Detroit will destroy any chance of that. And if you're a Goff fan, that sucks.

 

[So Ram]

If this is in fact true I may just take a year off. We just downgraded at QB and gave up 2 first for the privilege of getting shit on by Sneads former pupil.

There you have it a ME first attitude.True longtime RAMS fans especially now a days should respect the system.
McSnead has done nothing but win.Funny Goff played a Whole NFL season at SOFI without any fans.Now when he comes back to SOFI it will be in front of more Ram fans that game than he did in all of 2020.

The JETS loss at SOFI was BAD.I’m not a Jared Goff hater & wish him a good NFL career. I’m excited to see Matt Stafford as The Rams starting QB.

I have to LOL now when I’ve asked the question in 2020 of where David Edwards & Bobby Evans would have been drafted.History of 2019 draft will show well without any TOP PICKS.
2020 draft could be one of The Rams best ever?

Looking back at the 2017 trade back & get John Johnson for Free.Gerald Everett was pretty good & no Kittles.
Will see what Copper Kupp does with Stafford.

D.Williams cost how many draft picks.Funny when I post a respect thread & 2nd yr. udrfa Troy Reeder is the starting MLB for the best defense in The NFL. The Troy Hill Haters!!!

I’m a Long Time Rams Fan & not a Long Time Jared Goff Fan.

When it comes to an aging QB & you look at The Playoffs (season)in 2020.
I think Stafford is coming into his prime.Changing of an ERA.
Aaron Rogers ? -
Rivers-
Bree’s-
Brady-

 

[So Ram]

How many thousand yard backs did the Patriots have? They won a SB with Shane Vereen as the leading rusher with 390 yards. The Chiefs havent had one since Mahomes became QB. Point being, Detroit favored a a high volume pass offense because of Stafford. Kind of like Miami back in the day with Marino, the team never focused on the run because they exploited (for a lack of a better term) the QB skills and were too reliant on that alone.
Good thing for Stafford he's out of that mess and with a coach who use the best of his abilities with a stud running back

I like the young Offensive Line.I TRULY wonder what Andrew Whitworth’s take on this TRADE. He was an Early of GOFF Fan.Now that The Rams made this trade I really wonder what his TRUE thoughts were?

 

[Tano]

Stafford is an upgrade over Goff in that McVay is over the moon and has all kinds of plans on how to utilize him. Whether he could have made those changes with the former QB is irrelevant. The offense and their relationship had gotten stale, and now has a new focus and revitalized energy

I definitely hope you and others are right.

However, after watching one game I see some areas that Stafford is definitely an improvement over Goff (mobility, arm strength and probably seeing the field better under pressure - didn't see a lot of that in the Chicago game) and areas where Goff was better (accuracy and winning with a lead). I was definitely disappointed that Stafford threw a terrible pass with a lead and only a few minutes left in the game for an interception that led to Chicago winning that game. He should never have thrown that 3rd and 6 pass and just thrown it away. All the anti-Goff guys can say that Goff made horrible mistakes and I agree he did but almost never with the game on the line and never when he had a lead.

 

[BonifayRam]

Sean McVay became “fixated” on Matthew Stafford
Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2021,

Sean McVay became "fixated" on Matthew Stafford - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)


Although quarterback Matthew Stafford ostensibly would have accepted a trade to any team but the Patriots, Stafford wanted to play for Sean McVay and the Rams. In the end, Stafford got what he wanted.

Chris Simms explained on Monday’s PFT Live that Stafford shied away from other potential trade destinations, like for example Carolina, as he tried to nudge the process toward McVay and Southern California.

Per a league source, Stafford and McVay spent time together last week in Cabo. (Albert Breer of SI.com writes that the two met for dinner in Mexico after the deal was done; our information suggests that the conversations and meetings didn’t begin then.)

As the source explains it, McVay became “fixated” on Stafford and pushed the Rams to get him. McVay, as the thinking in some circles goes, believes that Stafford will help McVay preserve his “boy genius” status, a label that has begun to weather and fray over the past two years. McVay blames the regression on Goff, taking a page from the playbook of his mentor, Jon Gruden.

Whether Stafford can change the perception of the McVay offensive system remains to be seen. As Simms put it, McVay will behave like a kid with a new toy, drawing up plays suited to Stafford’s strengths. It will invigorate McVay and expand the offense — at least in the short term.

But the Rams will still need to put a team around Stafford. With $22.2 million carried on the salary cap for Goff’s traded contract and with Stafford receiving $20 million in compensation for 2021, the Rams will have to put a team around Stafford with $42.2 million devoted to the quarterback position and (if the cap shrinks to $180 million) less than $140 million to fill out the rest of the roster.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This thread has gotten ridiculous. It’s like a bunch Old women wringing their hands and moaning and groaning about what may happen.

It’s a football team, a football coach, and two guys none of you know personally. Goff hit his ceiling. There were things he couldn’t do. McVay thinks Stafford can do those things. All of the belly aching and indecisiveness about wether people can remain fans or not, or if the Rams can continue this style of managing the team is absurd. Eventually good runs end. Teams rebuild. Donald won’t be Donald at age 50.

After what we have all gone through in the 90’s and again from 2006-20016 I am elated that we have a group of people running the team that are more concerned with winning, aren’t afraid to make big moves, and can get past their own egos, admit mistakes and move forward.

I like this move but even if I didn’t I would get over the initial shock and figure that they are still my team and wait and see how it works. I lived through Allen and Noteboom twice. Getting Stafford and losing some first round picks pales in comparison.

 

[ozarkram]

So what we are saying is we have a serious bromance going on between coach and player while at the same time the coach and Gm are spending a billionaires money like drunken Indians. (no offense to drunken Indians) God I love this team.

 

[Tano]

This thread has gotten ridiculous. It’s like a bunch Olof women wringing their hands and moaning and groaning about what may happen.

It’s a football team, a football coach, and two guys none of you know personally. Goff hit his ceiling. There were things he couldn’t do. McVay thinks Stafford can do those things. All of the belly aching and indecisiveness about wether people can remain fans or not, or if the Rams can continue this style of managing the team is absurd. Eventually good runs end. Teams rebuild. Donald won’t be Donald at age 50.

After what we have all gone through in the 90’s and again from 2006-20016 I am elated that we have a group of people running the team that are more concerned with winning, aren’t afraid to make big moves, and can get past their own egos, admit mistakes and move forward.

I like this move but even if I didn’t I would get over the initial shock and figure that they are still my team and wait and see how it works. I lived through Allen and Noteboom twice. Getting Stafford and losing some first round picks pales in comparison.

Just to the first sentence

 

[ProGen]

What is Stafford like against the blitz?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Thanks! I think Lions taking all of Goff's guarantees, and getting Goff off our hands plus getting a bonafide star in Stafford was a friend helping a friend with Holmes/Snead, granted the draft picks obviously helped.

Two first round picks at #26 equal in value 1400 points. The same as Washington’s offer. Each added a third.

The difference is the Rams added Goff and Detroit agreed to take the rest of the contract, even the guaranteed money.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

The days of team loyalty to players and vice versus is and has been long gone. Being against the trade straight up I understand. But the cutthroat way the business is done is nothing new.

Ever since free agency. Players are loyal to themselves, so teams are the same way

 

[jrry32]

No thousand yard backs

We didn't have a 1000+ yard HB in 2020 or 2019 either. I'd happily accept our 2019 running game if it meant adding prime Calvin Johnson to our receiving corp.

 

[badnews]

Ever since free agency. Players are loyal to themselves, so teams are the same way

Teams have always been loyal to themselves, since free agency the players are the same way.

 

[The Ramowl]

It feels like a Moneyball kind of thing. Like Snead has caught a pattern showing that late 1st rounders are overvalued by the league and so he trades them all away (expecting that we will have a winning record, McVay provides that I guess).
He's either ahead of his time or tragically wrong. Given that we were just in the divisional round after no 1sts in 5 years, he might actually be right. History will tell.

I'm a bit scared though that this strategy worked thanks to our very good drafting on day two, which might be diminished without Brad Holmes in the house.

It's quite exciting to be a fan of a team that always have those blockbuster trades. These guys don't play scared, I'm not sure this trade is great, but I love the spirit.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

How many thousand yard backs did the Patriots have? They won a SB with Shane Vereen as the leading rusher with 390 yards. The Chiefs havent had one since Mahomes became QB. Point being, Detroit favored a a high volume pass offense because of Stafford. Kind of like Miami back in the day with Marino, the team never focused on the run because they exploited (for a lack of a better term) the QB skills and were too reliant on that alone.
Good thing for Stafford he's out of that mess and with a coach who use the best of his abilities with a stud running back

Having superlative players isn’t always necessary for a QB to look great But I recall the Patriots offense looking better than ever when Moss was there.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

We didn't have a 1000+ yard HB in 2020 or 2019 either. I'd happily accept our 2019 running game if it meant adding prime Calvin Johnson to our receiving corp.

How good has the Cardinals team been with Prime Larry Fitzgerald before and after Kurt?

 

[OldSchool]

How good has the Cardinals team been with Prime Larry Fitzgerald before and after Kurt?

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Memphis Ram]

This thread has gotten ridiculous. It’s like a bunch Olof women wringing their hands and moaning and groaning about what may happen.

It’s a football team, a football coach, and two guys none of you know personally. Goff hit his ceiling. There were things he couldn’t do. McVay thinks Stafford can do those things. All of the belly aching and indecisiveness about wether people can remain fans or not, or if the Rams can continue this style of managing the team is absurd. Eventually good runs end. Teams rebuild. Donald won’t be Donald at age 50.

After what we have all gone through in the 90’s and again from 2006-20016 I am elated that we have a group of people running the team that are more concerned with winning, aren’t afraid to make big moves, and can get past their own egos, admit mistakes and move forward.

I like this move but even if I didn’t I would get over the initial shock and figure that they are still my team and wait and see how it works. I lived through Allen and Noteboom twice. Getting Stafford and losing some first round picks pales in comparison.

Seems to me that there are just some who bent over backwards in defense of Goff and/or didn't believe he would be traded who are just struggling with the idea that the organization agreed with many of the posters they argued against when it comes to Goff. I really wouldn't expect one to quickly come off a mountain they've been climbing for so long.