Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[Tano]

And have enjoyed the fruits of the player obtained for a season.

For example, I'd rather have a proven stud in Jalen Ramsey this past season and beyond than the 25th selection in this year's crapshoot we call the NFL Draft.

Oh I have absolutely no problem with the Jalen Ramsey trade.

That was an excellent trade even if we had to give up a couple firsts for him.

I'll be honest - even though I was all in on Goff when we drafted him but at the time, I felt we gave up too much to get him.

It worked out in the long run for the most part.

4 winning seasons 3 playoff runs and a SB run

I don't think any other QB in that draft would have gotten us that even Dak (Wentz gets hurt too much).

 

[ozarkram]

Rodgers was never in play. That all came from an off the cuff remark he made after the lost to Tampa.

 

[snackdaddy]

Not sure why anyone would decide to stop rooting for the Rams NOW. You have the whole off-season to make that decision. Why do it now, in the heat and passion of the moment, when there is absolutely NO time pressure in the decision. Isn't it always better to take your time with a decision when you have the time to make it?

I would never stop rooting for my team if any player is traded or cut. I might be pissed about it if I thought the move would hurt the team. But I'd never turn away from the team. Its always been team over player for me. I was a Bradford supporter. Some called me a Bradford mom. I was a Goff mom too I suppose. But they are no longer Rams players so they mean nothing to me now. Today Stafford is the guy. He's got my full support. I hope he does great things.

 

[dang]

I agree and what some are forgetting is to factor in Goff's contract and the fact when the Rams contacted Goff's agent to restructure, his agent said no....If the Rams can extend Stafford & restructure Woods, Kupp, Donald & Ramsey they will have 38 million available cap space, that in itself makes sense.

I forget. Has Goff restructured his contract once Before? If not, I would be interested why he/his agent weren’t open to it. Pride? Guaranteed $$$ changes?

 

[Mackeyser]

I have a hard time seeing Watson actually get dealt - this situation may get Carson Palmer ugly.

Part of me thinks it's a ploy to drive up his price.

The other part thinks that Easterby is such a deluded shitbag and Caserio is an asshole acorn from the Belichick Asshole Oak tree... that they don't see players as people, just players they control and they almost relish the chance to "stand up for ownership" and prevent the NFL from becoming more like the NBA.

I think that fear isn't well grounded as other than franchise QBs and a few rock star players, it's culturally and contractually much more difficult.

That said, with the Rams out, it does look like the Jets or Miami... I was soooo wrong about that.

I still cannot believe that the price was too rich for Snead.

I didn't know numbers went that high...

 

[AZRams]

I don't want to go back to the days of always looking for a QB.

This reminds me of good Rams teams signing guys like Dan Pastorini, Bert Jones, Steve Bartkowski, and even Joe Namath....while had they just kept Jaworski they may have won a SB.

Those 70's teams were a great QB away from multiple championships with that defensive group. Instead, Staubach and Tarkenton went to every SB for the NFC but 2 b/t 1970 and 1980 (Wash '73, LA '80).

What...could...have...been. Always a concern now too.

 

[Mackeyser]

View: https://twitter.com/RFootball24/status/1356128089600913408?s=19


Packers of course are denying it outright.

Well, both can be right.

Could be that the coaches would be willing to entertain the idea, but the Rams called the folks who make those calls, the GB FO and they seem to have said an outright no.

So the Rams called and GB said no.

It's true the Rams "inquired" and it's true that GB will not trade the reigning MVP (I and everyone else assumes)

 

[Mackeyser]

Rodgers was never in play. That all came from an off the cuff remark he made after the lost to Tampa.

But you know Snead still called... gotta love that guy. He's fearless...

 

[Mackeyser]

I forget. Has Goff restructured his contract once Before? If not, I would be interested why he/his agent weren’t open to it. Pride? Guaranteed $$$ changes?

The Rams didn't ask him to restructure. Why would they if things weren't going well between Goff and McVay? If things got worse, they'd be locked in.

Also, if the Rams were asking for a pay cut while things aren't great, it means he's more likely to be moved and the player rarely earns that money back.

Cowherd posited that the "other shoe" was that the Rams went to Goff's agent to ask about a pay cut and Goff's agent said, "pound sand".

But we never restructured (pretty sure the Rams like most clubs include language allowing for restructuring at any time without player consent as it doesn't affect the amount of money and the only thing it can end up doing is paying or guaranteeing more money sooner).

There's also nothing from anyone that a paycut was asked for.

I don't think Cowherd knew the details of how things weren't going well in the Rams building and just conjectured... and it is talk radio/tv...

 

[dang]

If they really want to go all in, they'll do full restructures of Donald, Ramsey, Woods and Kupp and extend Stafford to reduce his cap hit this year.

That will give us something like $38M in cap room.

At that point, we'd have room for Floyd, to go out and get Linsley and maybe even Warford or Scherff

Don’t forget Williams.

 

[MachS]

Orlovsky talking about Stafford to the Rams:


View: https://twitter.com/GetUpESPN/status/1356265630190731264?s=19

 

[BonifayRam]

I forget. Has Goff restructured his contract once Before? If not, I would be interested why he/his agent weren’t open to it. Pride? Guaranteed $$$ changes?

Back on April 24th, 2020 Goff Converted $9M of 2020 salary into a bonus, clearing $7.2M of the Rams cap with the Los Angeles Rams. Would anyone consider this a restructure of his contract? Before that on September 3rd, 2019 Goff signed a 4 year $134 million contract extension with Los Angeles Rams.

 

[MachS]

I’d hardly call their way passive. They traded for Jimmy they traded for Ford they’ve drafted well. They’ve built a damn good team they just got screwed by injuries this year.

Oh wasn't comparing us to the Niners. I think Lynch has actually done a nice job as painful as that is to admit. Was more just referring to all the criticism about our formula, trading 1st rounders for star players and not building our team in the traditional sense. I think its a bold strategy, I mean we had all those extra 1st rounders from the RG3 trade and went nowhere with them.

 

[oldnotdead]

I simply don't understand the angst about 1st round picks. Look at the team Snead has built without a 1st round pick. Snead views 1st round picks simply as trade bait. If they indeed keep Stafford's contract the way it is, that will mean they have a targeted QB and Matt is simply a place holder. At best I see Stafford playing at a high level for 2-3 years. That is their SB window.

But IMO what this trade would seem to indicate that guys like Whitworth, Brockers and Havenstein probably become cap casualties. Their release will clear almost half of the cap overage. Also, Whitworth and Havenstein would have trade value to teams like the Chargers. The Rams already have the replacement players on the roster for all 3. Both are better than the current Charger starters. I also see them restructuring Donald's contract to clear cap for Floyd's signing. They could do likewise with Ramsey's contract to extend Williams.

 

[AZRams]

Good post.
Also, should the number of staff leaving ring alarm bells?

Whilst McVay was, I thought, luke warm to Goff in recent media, Snead was very poor.
I first put McVays attitude down to losing to the Packers.
In hindsight, he'd clearly had enough.
Snead, well, he was just piss poor in his comments.
He has gone down in my estimation.
McVay? Well, we'll see.
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This could honestly be a Robert Woods type pickup. McVay inherited Goff but when he had a chance to look around the league and see how other QBs were performing despite their circumstances this is the guy he chose.

Woods' stats were nothing to brag about in Buffalo but the talent was clearly there and we ended up with a bargain. Stafford's stats don't look like much but everyone in the league recognizes his talent and he could be a superstar in LA, who knows?

More than one former player is saying that Stafford's talent in McVay's offense makes this a very good move.

 

[dieterbrock]

But I have stated I will watch his games and even if I don't see an upgrade, I will still support Stafford since he is now a Ram.

Stafford is an upgrade over Goff in that McVay is over the moon and has all kinds of plans on how to utilize him. Whether he could have made those changes with the former QB is irrelevant. The offense and their relationship had gotten stale, and now has a new focus and revitalized energy

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Yes, he did. The guy had one of the best redzone WRs of all time for a good chunk of his career and routinely had an outstanding group of weapons. The offense was not only him.

No thousand yard backs

 

[dieterbrock]

I have a hard time seeing Watson actually get dealt - this situation may get Carson Palmer ugly.

Now that Watson isnt a target for the Rams, and bias removed, can see what folks were saying about how Houston is not without leverage themselves.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That’s silver article needs more attention too .. the org did Jared dirty maybe it needs to go in the is mcvay an asshole thread

Dirty? The object is to win. Goff has not gotten better. He has a limited set of tools. It’s not his fault and the first part is not McVay’s fault.Jarred has made very well for his two successful years with McVay holding his hand.

I guess Bradford got done dirty too with his 50 million dollar rookie deal.

These guys are well paid. If they don’t perform to the level they are paid it’s logical for a team to move on.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

We don’t need to sign WRs. We have all we need. Jefferson is the burner y’all think we don’t have

But IMO what this trade would seem to indicate that guys like Whitworth, Brockers and Havenstein probably become cap casualties. Their release will clear almost half of the cap overage. Also, Whitworth and Havenstein would have trade value to teams like the Chargers. The Rams already have the replacement players on the roster for all 3. Both are better than the current Charger starters. I also see them restructuring Donald's contract to clear cap for Floyd's signing. They could do likewise with Ramsey's contract to extend Williams.

We are not trading or cutting Whitworth. He either retires or lines up at LT to protect Stafford's blindside. Also, who do we have to replace Havenstein?