Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[Dodgersrf]

I’m doing regional hot dogs I wanna try everyone’s. I just didn’t know if when they say chopped onion it meant raw or not. View attachment 43335

Yes.
Raw onions.

I also like Cole slaw on a hot dog.

Don't skimp on the dog.

I prefer Nathan's with a natural casing.

Or..if you can find them.
Hoffy Hollywood with natural casing.
The natural casing is a must. Hoffy dogs are easy to find. The ones with the natural casing aren't.
If you can find the right one, you'll be surprised how darn good this dog is.
Great flavor, spice and snap. It's tough to beat.

 

[Psycho_X]

Waited for the shock to drop off before posting. Overall, I think the player swap itself is an upgrade if Goff never progresses farther. Obviously, time will tell on this. I'm a Goff fan and I felt like he could develop further but it was pretty obvious that McVay lost trust in him the last two seasons. The offense was diminished to help Goff reduce turnovers and be more of a game manager than a game winning QB. With our defense it worked most of the time this season but obviously had terrible results in other games. But you could tell McVay was not happy deploying the offense he was forced to deploy the last couple of seasons. That was obvious when he let loose when Wolford played. While scoring was light for various reasons in that Cardinals game it was blatantly obvious that McVay had far more trust in his backup QB to sling it downfield than he did his starter.

With this trade McVay gets the type of QB he wants. The big question will be if he can stay healthy. But I am excited to see Stafford in McVay's preferred offense. Higbee is going to get some serious yards going forward I think.

Where this trade gets frustrating is the contract we gave Goff two September's ago. I understand the FO is not afraid of the salary cap. They know how to manipulate it and account for mistakes down the road but you can't help but wonder the type of players they would be able to keep this offseason if they hadn't jumped the gun on it. I appreciate the ability to weather storms like this but am frustrated by the constant signings and immediately dumping of players after one year.

 

[Tano]

Can be raw or cooked - both are good

But cooked is probably better

Oh and my wife likes raw onions on her hot dogs too

 

[TXRams86]

I'm definitely sad to see so many of you posting that you are done with the Rams now. I've been a Rams fan my whole life, so this blip is nothing with the years I've suffered through.

If the question is, are the Rams better now then they were yesterday morning? I think the answer is decidedly yes. Stafford is superior to Goff in nearly every category (but age). Stafford has had crap for offensive coordinators, not as good WR's as us (IMO), worse D, worse OL, etc.

Was I a fan of the compensation? Absolutely not. But, as someone else pointed out earlier, check out what the Hags gave for a safety. It near identical but we are also dumping a huge long term salary on them.

Now that I've had a chance to sit back and think about it, I'm totally bummed to not have a first in forever, but, we definitely improved at the most important position in football, and perhaps all of sports. Based on the compensation, we were never in the running for Watson anyway, no way they are taking back Goff in that deal or we are having to give them 5 firsts and players. We could not take a QB back without Goff off the books.

I do hope those that said they are done with the Rams cool off and realize we have a solid chance at making a deep run in the playoffs for the foreseeable future. #GORAMS

First bold point: yep, reading all this about being done with the Rams over this trade is ridiculous and really makes me question the maturity of a lot of people on here. Either you're a fan or you're not. You don't have to agree with the front office's decisions but you're putting one player, one front office decision in front of the entire team and if that's what it takes you to lose your loyalty then you probably SHOULD move on. And some of the people making these comments are those held to such high esteem on this forum. Maybe some of them need to take a step back and realize that they're an armchair GM and outside of this forum don't mean shit to the organization. The Rams and this community will survive without them.

Second point: There's nothing out there that says the Texans are going to move Watson. I understand he's asked for a trade but there's nothing saying the Texans need to oblige, he could be stuck with them until his contract is over. So for those people who are saying "I'd be ok with this trade if it was for Watson", maybe that trade was never an option to begin with. Stick to the facts and what we know, not what you (not you per se @Flatlyner) want to believe. We know that Stafford and the Lions were exploring trade options, we knew the Rams were exploring trade options for Goff and it happened to be that the two teams were able to make a trade happen. We can all speculate as to why we wanted to move on from Goff but the fact of the matter is that for whatever reason McVay wanted to move on from him and he did. Hate it or love it, it's done and Goff is no longer the QB of the Rams.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Yes.
Raw onions.

Got it. Thanks guys @Tano

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming

 

[Tano]

First bold point: yep, reading all this about being done with the Rams over this trade is ridiculous and really makes me question the maturity of a lot of people on here. Either you're a fan or you're not. You don't have to agree with the front office's decisions but you're putting one player, one front office decision in front of the entire team and if that's what it takes you to lose your loyalty then you probably SHOULD move on. And some of the people making these comments are those held to such high esteem on this forum. Maybe some of them need to take a step back and realize that they're an armchair GM and outside of this forum don't mean shit to the organization. The Rams and this community will survive without them.

Let's not go there.

I said I am possibly done with watching football not that I am done with the Rams - there is a difference

And the others saying they are done with the Rams are probably just so ticked off like me that they let their emotions dictate what they are writing.

I don't know for sure but don't call out on their maturity.

Football is a passion for some people (I am included in that category) and sometimes something that we completely disagree with brings out passion on the other extreme.

It happens but these people including myself are probably still mature in our other decisions. I am basing this on how they write in this forum and I have very rarely seen immature comments from them on the other issues.

 

[Angry Ram]

The worst part is having to wait 8 months to see this all take affect.

 

[MadGoat]

View: https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/1355930247951220743

 

[Tano]

The worst part is having to wait 8 months to see this all take affect.

It is probably going to take me 8 months to get over this lol

 

[Tano]

The real question here...... Is Stafford a tractor or a trailer???


Asking for a friend...

That friend unfortunately is probably going hallelujah.

Can he be allowed back in the forum now?

I am trying to figure out if I am serious on that question or not lol

 

[den-the-coach]

Do you have a link Den. I’d be interested to read this article

The Athletic does not allow that, you have to subscribe, however, you can share some of the highlights.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Yes.
Raw onions.

I also like Cole slaw on a hot dog.

Don't skimp on the dog.

I prefer Nathan's with a natural casing.

Or..if you can find them.
Hoffy Hollywood with natural casing.
The natural casing is a must. Hoffy dogs are easy to find. The ones with the natural casing aren't.
If you can find the right one, you'll be surprised how darn good this dog is.
Great flavor, spice and snap. It's tough to beat.

I’m writing this down! There is nowhere to get a good hot dog around here and I’ve fallen in love with cooking them in the air fryer so now I’m trying different toppings

 

[TXRams86]

Let's not go there.

I said I am possibly done with watching football not that I am done with the Rams - there is a difference

And the others saying they are done with the Rams are probably just so ticked off like me that they let their emotions dictate what they are writing.

I don't know for sure but don't call out on their maturity.

Football is a passion for some people (I am included in that category) and sometimes something that we completely disagree with brings out passion on the other extreme.

It happens but these people including myself are probably still mature in our other decisions. I am basing this on how they write in this forum and I have very rarely seen immature comments from them on the other issues.

First of all, I wasn't calling you out specifically but if the shoe fits then it is what it is. I get being passionate and I get being upset enough that your emotions dictate what you post. But that still doesn't make it right and certainly doesn't mean I can't have my own personal opinion on someone who chooses to let their emotions dictate their actions. You have your opinion and I have mine.

The post box says "Think before you post." Maybe you and others who are highly emotional about this decision should take a step back and post when you're a bit more calm. This entire off season has been a cluster fuck of emotions, whether it be about Goff or Wolford and now about Stafford. In the grand scheme of things, football isn't that serious. But if people feel they want to move on, go ahead - no one here is going to stop you.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I think what you're saying here is what McVay believes as well. I've trusted McVay from the start, he knows a whole lot more than I do, so I'm hopeful that this works out.

It's just tough when you've spent the last 5 years cheering for Goff. Defending him from the naysayers. Seeing some of his great throws and great games and pointing to them as reasons that he's the franchise QB we all hoped he'd be. Watching that 2018 team where he helped that offense to such a high level of play. Even with his lesser play these last two years, there were good moments here and there. And I sometimes found myself blaming the lesser o-line, or lack of a deep threat for some of his struggles.

It's the attachment to these players that makes it tough. Now I also defended Tavon Austin for years and years, so I'm aware that my judgement can get clouded by my biases...

I hated the Tavon pick. I loved the Goff pick mainly because of what he could do with a crap Oline in college. I don't know where that guy went. I defended him till about half way through this year. Then I stopped. I felt that he was over his head. I suspected the rich life with the hot girl friend may have had something to do with it. Maybe he felt he didn't have to work as hard? I recall that he used to practice in summers with Tom House. Or maybe he just cannot process quickly enough.

We all saw and heard McVay O's frustration. It sounded like he not only wanted Goff to be better, but that he thought he could be. That made me think McVay didn't feel Goff was preparing enough.

Schefter claims that McVay has been studying Stafford for weeks and determined that Matt is the right QB for his system, he said he coveted Stafford. So like you, that's goid enough for me.

As far as I'm concerned there are only three elite players on the Rams Whitworth, Donald and Ramsey. Goff is not close to that level. So I can't be upset with him being traded. I'm sure McVay and Snead did what they thought they needed to in order to improve the team. I don't always agree with the draft picks but I've liked the trades for proven players.

 

[den-the-coach]

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[Wisconsinram]

Wisconsinram said:
I"ve been a supporter of McSnead, but wasn't this happening BEFORE they signed him to an extension? If so, it makes the decision to extend him unexcusable.

Not really. Like I said, teams figured out that mcvay was giving goff defensive call outs and adjustments. Obviously goff couldn't do it on his own, maybe the football iq just isn't there. And that's not something you can see right away with a qb. Obviously they took a gamble on if the light bulb eventually was going to come on. Obviously it didn't.
Worst part is I liked goff and I defended him, but that stopped late this year. I just couldn't defend him anymore.



It just feels like McVay has been doing that before the contract was signed, but whatever.

I will say this. I give major props to McSnead for addressing their mistake of extending him. I'm not making an excuse for the decision to do so as in hindsight, it was awful. But they could have tried to patch-it up/gloss it over and that would have undermined any credibility they had in the locker room. So as much as I hate where we were and what we had to do to get where we are, at least they made an attempt to fix their error. The alternative clearly would have been worse.

 

[Tano]

Okay the shoe fits on this trade - but other than saying I am wondering if I can watch football next year makes me immature..

Whatever dude

 

[TXRams86]

Okay the shoe fits on this trade - but other than saying I am wondering if I can watch football next year makes me immature..

Whatever dude

Cool, moving along.

 

[Raptorman]

From someone whose team has been playing Stafford for years. Other than the loss of the 1st round picks, which I think was too much, the Rams will come out ahead of this deal initially. Stafford is a good QB that never had a decent Defense to help him. I think if the Rams can maintain their defense next year, they will have a good shot at the SB.

 

[Kevin]

Well I always viewed the Rams finally hitting in the first round as central to their turnaround. Gurley, Donald and Goff all played large roles on the 2017-2018 Rams. I'm just glad Les didn't trade away the 13th overall pick in 2014 before we got to use it. Donald would never have been a Ram.

Sitting out the first round for seven years in a row is a lot of missed opportunity. Who really knows who we might've gotten, in 2017 Deshaun Watson, Pat Mahomes, Christian McCaffery, TJ Watt were all on the board at the Rams original draft slot, but they traded it away - for Goff.

yup. And that’s just the 2017 draft.