Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[matt30]

Back to the old eye test.

But luckily we have stats that tell us Stafford had less time to throw and faced pressure at a higher percentage than Goff did.

Yes. Actually watching the games gives me more insight that a 0.1 second differential in time to throw aggregated over 600 dropbacks. There's a reason nobody on the line went to the probowl this season for the Rams and the Lions consistently send linemen.

 

[FrantikRam]

No, my logic is that you don't go all in on the Super Bowl right now because of the uncertainty you face each year. Instead, you keep building this team in a sustainable manner. Use this offseason to upgrade the OL, plan for future losses, and plug a hole or two on defense. Run it back with Goff. If he comes up short next year, you have a first round pick and can go after a QB then. If he delivers, you have a 27 year old QB who has a long career ahead of him.

Well if Goff would come up short and we had to draft a QB, ADs prime is likely gone before we can compete unless we strike gold with a rookie QB which is a low percentage. This move is clearly McVay thinking he can improve the offense enough to win it all - and he's earned my trust enough to believe that now that we've traded Goff, he wouldn't have been successful next year

 

[jap]

It's not about luck my friend. Jared Goff was not going to win a SB for our Rams.

McVay knew this. Snead knew it and so did many in the NFL circles that watched the all 22 videos of Goff's performances.

Goff was not capable of having vision of the whole field and it was becoming more obvious after every game.

Wolf could read defenses better and McVay realized it. It was time to move on even with the overpaid draft capitol it required.

Stafford will have a lot of pressure on him to get the Rams past the divisional round in 2022 but he's more equipped to do that than

Jared Goff and the Rams brain trust has banked on it.

In Stafford we Trust.


Ironically Terry Bradshaw not long ago on national television said the Rams needed to bench Goff and make a trade for Matthew Stafford in the offseason. Terry will be the talking point of Rams games in 2021 for that comment because is became reality.

Terry was correct and in the strangest of ways it actually happened.

Funny thing is

Probably the only time in his entire broadcasting life that Terry has been right about anything.

 

[Da-Rock]

It will be fascinating to see Stafford running play action with a team that can run the ball.........I don't think he has run much play action in Detroit.

 

[Ram Ts]

If Stafford is all about winning and his career/legacy, then he should take a low one year extension restructuring to enable us to add to the team and give him the playoffs and SB run he desires. Like Brady did for many years with NE. We’ll see soon if it’s money or winning. He already has made a ton. Winning a playoff game - not.

 

[Tron]

lol the more I think about it, the Rams woulda traded those 1st round picks for a player/players anyways more than likely since they dont really value unknown commodeties when they can get proven known ones, so makes sense to do so at the most important position that they viewed as holding us back while freeing up future cap space. Still dont love it, But we haven't had a losing season under McVay, and gone are the dark ages of Rams past, So in McSnead I trust until proven wrong.

This is gonna be a very very very long offseason to say the least....

 

[dieterbrock]

It will be fascinating to see Stafford running play action with a team that can run the ball.........I don't think he has run much play action in Detroit.

Because they built the offense around him, and his getting 40 attempts a game

 

[FrantikRam]

Yes. Actually watching the games gives me more insight that a 0.1 second differential in time to throw aggregated over 600 dropbacks. There's a reason nobody on the line went to the probowl this season for the Rams and the Lions consistently send linemen.

I mean, the stats just show that you're wrong here and that's okay. The Lions gave up more sacks, gave up pressures at a higher rate, gave their QB less time to throw and averaged fewer yards per carry than the Rams did.

As an aside, many Rams fans have lamented just one bad offensive lineman for the Rams this year - so it's entirely possible to have two pro bowl offensive linemen and still have a mediocre offensive line.

 

[jrry32]

Well if Goff would come up short and we had to draft a QB, ADs prime is likely gone before we can compete unless we strike gold with a rookie QB which is a low percentage. This move is clearly McVay thinking he can improve the offense enough to win it all - and he's earned my trust enough to believe that now that we've traded Goff, he wouldn't have been successful next year

And if he doesn't win a Super Bowl in the next two years, this trade ends up being a mistake.

 

[jap]

Sure hope they dont end up with Watson

Watson has more overall talent, but Stafford is a much more seasoned pro and maybe a better thinker on his feet right now. The question is: how much will the union with Sean elevate his play?

 

[dieterbrock]

If Stafford is all about winning and his career/legacy, then he should take a low one year extension restructuring to enable us to add to the team and give him the playoffs and SB run he desires. Like Brady did for many years with NE. We’ll see soon if it’s money or winning. He already has made a ton. Winning a playoff game - not.

Its a common fallacy that a restructure means giving up money. It isnt. It just moves from salary to bonus so it can be stretched out on paper, but the guaranteed money gets paid

 

[TexasRam]

I'm sure he is very thankful too.

You laugh. If his genius plan doesn't work out he will be the laughing stock of the league and booed off the field.

He will go from genius to the idiot who inherited Fishers picks and pissed them away.

Ram fans have watch this rerun way to many times. So yea, me giving him a chance is a kind act

And I do hope I am completely wrong that this rerun ends differently.

 

[jrry32]

I mean, the stats just show that you're wrong here and that's okay. The Lions gave up more sacks, gave up pressures at a higher rate, gave their QB less time to throw and averaged fewer yards per carry than the Rams did.

As an aside, many Rams fans have lamented just one bad offensive lineman for the Rams this year - so it's entirely possible to have two pro bowl offensive linemen and still have a mediocre offensive line.

Their QB ran PA at a significantly lower rate and still only had 0.1 less seconds to throw according to the stat you keep quoting (2.4 for Stafford vs. 2.5 for Goff). I'm not even arguing that our OL is worse. But the Lions did not have a sucky OL last year or the year before or the year before that. Stafford's OL was middle of the pack this year and was quite good in the years prior. Our OL was a little better this year than his.

 

[FrantikRam]

And if he doesn't win a Super Bowl in the next two years, this trade ends up being a mistake.

I know your mind won't be changed but I disagree. Rams weren't going to win the Super Bowl with Goff, so if we don't win it with Stafford, no difference.

I hope we hear what happened because Goff had to have done something to get in McVays doghouse, which means even if we didn't make this trade, Goff's days in LA were numbered.

 

[FrantikRam]

Their QB ran PA at a significantly lower rate and still only had 0.1 less seconds to throw according to the stat you keep quoting (2.4 for Stafford vs. 2.5 for Goff). I'm not even arguing that our OL is worse. But the Lions did not have a sucky OL last year or the year before or the year before that. Stafford's OL was middle of the pack this year and was quite good in the years prior. Our OL was a little better this year than his.

Which was my only point from the beginning. Wasn't trashing Detroit's OL - just that ours was better this year

 

[Poppinfresh]

They don't make this trade if they don't believe they can win the whole tamale in the next 2 years. They have a plan I stand by it.

That's cool. You do you.

I, however, am paying almost $150,000 a year in PSL's and...geez, I don't even know what the seats are supposed to run next year because the price per game is different depending on the team, and I don't stand by it.

Somehow I think, in terms of customer retention, my unhappiness trumps most.

 

[jrry32]

I know your mind won't be changed but I disagree. Rams weren't going to win the Super Bowl with Goff, so if we don't win it with Stafford, no difference.

I hope we hear what happened because Goff had to have done something to get in McVays doghouse, which means even if we didn't make this trade, Goff's days in LA were numbered.

The difference is the first round picks they dealt to end up with the same results.

 

[Gandalf]

lol the more I think about it, the Rams woulda traded those 1st round picks for a player/players anyways more than likely since they dont really value unknown commodeties when they can get proven known ones, so makes sense to do so at the most important position that they viewed as holding us back while freeing up future cap space. Still dont love it, But we haven't had a losing season under McVay, and gone are the dark ages of Rams past, So in McSnead I trust until proven wrong.

This is gonna be a very very very long offseason to say the least....

All off seasons are long.

 

[Ramit]

We were just talking about the regular season. But thanks for moving the goal posts.

Your welcome

 

[Merlin]

Because they built the offense around him, and his getting 40 attempts a game

He wanted to come to the Rams for a reason. It will prove to be a great decision for him too IMO.